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Clamnebula
2003-12-24 01:23:24 EST
Thank God!
-Neb

---Original Message---
God is not a right-wing zealot
The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's urging
people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell clone.
By Leslie R. Guttman

Dec. 24, 2003 | LEXINGTON, Ky. -- In the heart of the Bluegrass, a Bible Belt
preacher is rallying people to political action around what he calls "basic
religious values." Think you can describe his politics? Think again. This man of
the cloth wants "regime change" in Washington.

The Rev. Albert Pennybacker, a Lexington, Ky.-based pastor, is head of the
Clergy Leadership Network, a new, cross-denominational group of liberal and
moderate religious leaders seeking to counter the influence of the religious
right and to mobilize voters to change leadership in Washington. Pennybacker,
affiliated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and a pastor of 35
years, is tired of the conventional wisdom that equates religiosity with
conservatism. Nationwide, he says, the religious right often squeezes out the
left in public debate.

The group is 1,000 members strong -- and growing.

read on here-
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/12/24/pastor/index_np.html



P*@see_my_sig_for_address.com
2003-12-24 06:49:45 EST
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:23:24 -0500, "clamnebula"
<*a@netscape.netSHELL> wrote:

>Thank God!
>-Neb
>
>---Original Message---
>God is not a right-wing zealot
>The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's urging
>people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell clone.
>By Leslie R. Guttman

Both sides claim 'God' equally. Hell, one of the
leftist-liberals trying to get nominated calles himself 'Reverend',
another wears his Jewishness like a badge.



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BIX XXcoop@unii Ix.sas.com Bill
2003-12-24 08:33:09 EST

In article <FdaGb.13137$uh1.10808@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"clamnebula" <SHELLclamnebula@netscape.netSHELL> writes:
>Thank God!
>-Neb
>
>---Original Message---
>God is not a right-wing zealot
>The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's urging
>people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell clone.
>By Leslie R. Guttman
>
>Dec. 24, 2003 | LEXINGTON, Ky. -- In the heart of the Bluegrass, a Bible Belt
>preacher is rallying people to political action around what he calls "basic
>religious values." Think you can describe his politics? Think again. This man of
>the cloth wants "regime change" in Washington.
>
>The Rev. Albert Pennybacker, a Lexington, Ky.-based pastor, is head of the
>Clergy Leadership Network, a new, cross-denominational group of liberal and
>moderate religious leaders seeking to counter the influence of the religious
>right and to mobilize voters to change leadership in Washington. Pennybacker,
>affiliated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and a pastor of 35
>years, is tired of the conventional wisdom that equates religiosity with
>conservatism. Nationwide, he says, the religious right often squeezes out the
>left in public debate.

No duh! The left has nothing to contribute beyond taking from
the haves and handing it willy-nilly to the "less fortunate".

>The group is 1,000 members strong -- and growing.

Wow! Boy, am I impressed (not).




rm -f X's n' i's 4 rpleyes

ZenIsWhen
2003-12-24 12:59:12 EST

<*m@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:k7viuvojum527uoe42oigdjsssiqbc2jai@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:23:24 -0500, "clamnebula"
> <SHELLclamnebula@netscape.netSHELL> wrote:
>
> >Thank God!
> >-Neb
> >
> >---Original Message---
> >God is not a right-wing zealot
> >The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's
urging
> >people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell
clone.
> >By Leslie R. Guttman
>
> Both sides claim 'God' equally.

Horse Shit!
The conservatives are claiming "god is on their side".
The liberals, moderates, and non fanatics are claiming god is on every side
equally. They are not claiming god for themselves!


Hell, one of the
> leftist-liberals trying to get nominated calles himself 'Reverend',
> another wears his Jewishness like a badge.

Which, even if true, means nothing!



ZenIsWhen
2003-12-24 13:00:32 EST

<bIX XXcoop@unii ix.sas.com (Bill)> wrote in message
news:bsc4il$pks$1@license1.unx.sas.com...
>
> In article <FdaGb.13137$uh1.10808@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> "clamnebula" <SHELLclamnebula@netscape.netSHELL> writes:
> >Thank God!
> >-Neb
> >
> >---Original Message---
> >God is not a right-wing zealot
> >The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's
urging
> >people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell
clone.
> >By Leslie R. Guttman
> >
> >Dec. 24, 2003 | LEXINGTON, Ky. -- In the heart of the Bluegrass, a
Bible Belt
> >preacher is rallying people to political action around what he calls
"basic
> >religious values." Think you can describe his politics? Think again. This
man of
> >the cloth wants "regime change" in Washington.
> >
> >The Rev. Albert Pennybacker, a Lexington, Ky.-based pastor, is head of
the
> >Clergy Leadership Network, a new, cross-denominational group of liberal
and
> >moderate religious leaders seeking to counter the influence of the
religious
> >right and to mobilize voters to change leadership in Washington.
Pennybacker,
> >affiliated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and a pastor
of 35
> >years, is tired of the conventional wisdom that equates religiosity with
> >conservatism. Nationwide, he says, the religious right often squeezes out
the
> >left in public debate.
>
> No duh! The left has nothing to contribute beyond taking from
> the haves and handing it willy-nilly to the "less fortunate".

Duh .. you mean like the LIBERAL concept of a government that is duly
elected by, and representative of, ALL the people?




P*@see_my_sig_for_address.com
2003-12-24 13:07:13 EST
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:59:12 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<*n@anywhere.com> wrote:

>
><pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:k7viuvojum527uoe42oigdjsssiqbc2jai@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:23:24 -0500, "clamnebula"
>> <SHELLclamnebula@netscape.netSHELL> wrote:
>>
>> >Thank God!
>> >-Neb
>> >
>> >---Original Message---
>> >God is not a right-wing zealot
>> >The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's
>urging
>> >people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell
>clone.
>> >By Leslie R. Guttman
>>
>> Both sides claim 'God' equally.
>
>Horse Shit!
>The conservatives are claiming "god is on their side".
>The liberals, moderates, and non fanatics are claiming god is on every side
>equally. They are not claiming god for themselves!

My ass they're not. You can't point to one single DemocRat
wanna-be that ever said 'god is equally on the Republican side as on
ours'.

>
>
>Hell, one of the
>> leftist-liberals trying to get nominated calles himself 'Reverend',
>> another wears his Jewishness like a badge.
>
>Which, even if true, means nothing!
>

Except to the point of 'who is claiming god on their side',
which is the question of the moment here.



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P*@see_my_sig_for_address.com
2003-12-24 13:10:22 EST
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:00:32 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<*n@anywhere.com> wrote:


>> No duh! The left has nothing to contribute beyond taking from
>> the haves and handing it willy-nilly to the "less fortunate".
>
>Duh .. you mean like the LIBERAL concept of a government that is duly
>elected by, and representative of, ALL the people?
>

No, the liberal concept of 'Government is the great equalizer,
the payer of all bills, the fixer of all ills, and it is Governments
job to redistribute income and resources so that there is no such
thing as ' getting ahead', or 'having to earn your way', and such that
there is, in fact, ' free lunch for everyone', obtained by taking away
( stealing, confiscating ) from those who have earned better.



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DW Suiter
2003-12-24 21:40:40 EST

Gee, the record shows this is exactly what the Bush administration and the
Republican Congress has done.



"Government is the great equalizer,
the payer of all bills, the fixer of all ills, and it is Governments
job to redistribute income and resources so that there is no such
thing as ' getting ahead', or 'having to earn your way', and such that
there is, in fact, ' free lunch for everyone', obtained by taking away
( stealing, confiscating ) from those who have earned better."

<*m@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
news:cfljuvclvbi51ncfv2b2e3df8sp5gf43ti@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:00:32 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
> <ZenIsWhen@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>
> >> No duh! The left has nothing to contribute beyond taking from
> >> the haves and handing it willy-nilly to the "less fortunate".
> >
> >Duh .. you mean like the LIBERAL concept of a government that is duly
> >elected by, and representative of, ALL the people?
> >
>
> No, the liberal concept of 'Government is the great equalizer,
> the payer of all bills, the fixer of all ills, and it is Governments
> job to redistribute income and resources so that there is no such
> thing as ' getting ahead', or 'having to earn your way', and such that
> there is, in fact, ' free lunch for everyone', obtained by taking away
> ( stealing, confiscating ) from those who have earned better.
>
>
>
> Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me
> 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints,
> ya know ?'
>
> HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
> Free demo now available online !! http://pmilligan.net/palm/
> Free superheat charts for 38 Ref's online at http://pmilligan.net/pmtherm/



Dweezil Dwarftosser
2003-12-26 07:50:06 EST
p*m@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:23:24 -0500, "clamnebula"
> <SHELLclamnebula@netscape.netSHELL> wrote:
>
> >Thank God!
> >-Neb
> >
> >---Original Message---
> >God is not a right-wing zealot
> >The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's urging
> >people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell clone.
> >By Leslie R. Guttman
>
> Both sides claim 'God' equally. Hell, one of the
> leftist-liberals trying to get nominated calles himself 'Reverend',
> another wears his Jewishness like a badge.

Hey! - Old Al speaks more sense than Dr. Dimwit ever
heard (and does a kick-ass impression of James Brown,
to boot!). It's encouraging to see him take center
stage as head race warlord; there's no confusion about
professing high ideals - while taking a decidedly
different course - like Jesse Jackson. There would be
no misdirection as he picks your pocket.

On a political level, Joe Lieberman is the only one of
the nine dwarves who can speak in complete sentences,
and form almost-viable opinions about foreign policy.
But a moderate can never win with the current demos;
Joe's just not a leftist - and extreme "leftness" is
the only requirement for demos today.

Stay tuned for the Wicked Witch of the MidWest to come
forth from beneath her rock in Chappaqua - and chose
Weasely Clark as her vice-commander of the flying
monkeys...

Pudentame
2003-12-28 17:50:10 EST
ZenIsWhen wrote:
> <pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> news:k7viuvojum527uoe42oigdjsssiqbc2jai@4ax.com...
>
>>On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:23:24 -0500, "clamnebula"
>><SHELLclamnebula@netscape.netSHELL> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thank God!
>>>-Neb
>>>
>>>---Original Message---
>>>God is not a right-wing zealot
>>>The Rev. Albert Pennybacker is a Bible Belt preacher with a drawl who's
>>
> urging
>
>>>people to support "basic religious values." But he's no Jerry Falwell
>>
> clone.
>
>>>By Leslie R. Guttman
>>
>>Both sides claim 'God' equally.
>
>
> Horse Shit!
> The conservatives are claiming "god is on their side".
> The liberals, moderates, and non fanatics are claiming god is on every side
> equally. They are not claiming god for themselves!

Other than Bob Dylan.

http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/withgod.html

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