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Mark Fox
2003-11-17 20:21:35 EST
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=2383

Anti-Americanism: Substitute for Responsibility
by Joseph A. D'Agostino
Posted Nov 17, 2003

"Anti-Americanism is at base a totalizing, if not a totalitarian, vision.
The peculiar blindness of fanaticism can be recognized in the way it seizes
on a certain behavior of the hated object and sweepingly condemns, only to
condemn with equal fervor the opposite behavior shortly after;or even
simultaneously. . . . According to this vision;in the sense that Littré
confers on the word: a 'phantom projection, a credulous fantasy of fears,
dreams, delusions, superstitions';Americans can do nothing but speak
idiocies, make blunders and commit crimes; and they are answerable for all
the setbacks, all the injustices and all the sufferings of the rest of
humanity" (p. 143).

Exaggeration? Are there really many people;and more than one or two people
in positions of great influence;in Europe who think this way? Jean-François
Revel, a well-known conservative (for France) French thinker, believes this
is the mainstream of thought among the Continent's intellectual and cultural
elites. The author of Without Marx or Jesus (1970), about the United States'
1960s societal revolution without Communist totalitarianism, Revel's
Anti-Americanism has recently been published in English translation. In it,
he explores a virulent spiritual phenomenon: the tendency of fashionable
leftists and many among the Third World masses to blame the United States
for everything.

Somehow, America is at fault for Third World poverty, not Third World
countries' endemic corruption and reliance on socialism. Somehow, free trade
and globalization;promoted by America;have impoverished most of the world,
yet the leaders of those impoverished countries constantly complain that
there is not enough free trade to make them rich (and especially complain of
the West's agricultural subsidies). People in Europe and everywhere else
voluntarily insist on wearing American clothes, watching American movies,
listening to American music;and then complain of the Americanization of
world culture.

What, exactly, do so many people;including a sizeable domestic constituency
here at home;hate about America? "Since the end of the Cold War. . .it is
often said that today's anti-Americanism derives from the fact that the
United States is now the 'hyperpower'. . .," Revel writes. "But this doesn't
reflect reality: anti-Americanism was almost as virulent during the period
of threatening totalitarianism as it has been after that threat
disappeared" (p. 3).

It's true: Elite Europeans hated the United States from the moment she saved
them from Nazism and while she was protecting them from Communism. And now
America is taking the lead in protecting the civilized world from terrorism.

One major reason, of course, is that with the failure of every form of
socialism, the American model of relatively free markets is taking over the
world. It's not globalization anti-American types are against, says Revel.
"In fact, the Left has always hoped for globalization, but without the
market;in other words, an ideologically correct world
government" (p. 39).

A true mark that anti-Americanism is a disease and not a position, Revel
argues, is how the same anti-Americans will blame the United States for
opposite reasons. Free trade is one example. Another: Blaming her for not
taking an active role in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,
as in the early months of this Bush Administration, and now complaining of
American interference.

Revel paints a picture of domestic French cultural breakdown, promoted by
the same anti-Western Civilization left that is so dominant here, that could
frighten even an American cultural reactionary, and provides numerous
quotations from Muslim leaders there as well as elsewhere that are full of
murderous hatred for the West. In this, Revel asserts, they are being true
to their religion, despite a Western myth to the contrary. This myth
"asserts that the Qur'an teaches tolerance and contains no verses
authorizing violence against non-Muslims or apostates," he writes.
"Unfortunately, this soothing canard cannot survive even a cursory
examination of Islam's holy book, which on the contrary is riddled with
passages putting believers under an obligation to exterminate
infidels" (p.66).

Revel's highly polemical tone and French sarcasm may turn off some readers,
but he collects a great amount of evidence to prove his two points:
Anti-Americans hate America more for her good qualities than for her
defects, and anti-Americanism is a pathological disease more than a reasoned
position. And he recounts the tremendous benefits that America has bestowed
on the world in recent decades;not the least of which was saving it from two
European totalitarianisms.

Perhaps the rest of the world owes so much to America that, as mathematician
and Christian intellectual Pascal wrote, when gratitude grows too
great, it turns into hatred.

Joseph D'Agostino is Associate Editor of HUMAN EVENTS.

Glenn \Christian Mystic\
2004-06-09 18:11:11 EST
One word JEALOUSY

"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a258afb5.0311171721.6235f5c8@posting.google.com...
> http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=2383
>
> Anti-Americanism: Substitute for Responsibility
> by Joseph A. D'Agostino
> Posted Nov 17, 2003
>
> "Anti-Americanism is at base a totalizing, if not a totalitarian, vision.
> The peculiar blindness of fanaticism can be recognized in the way it
seizes
> on a certain behavior of the hated object and sweepingly condemns, only to
> condemn with equal fervor the opposite behavior shortly after;or even
> simultaneously. . . . According to this vision;in the sense that Littr\ufffd
> confers on the word: a 'phantom projection, a credulous fantasy of fears,
> dreams, delusions, superstitions';Americans can do nothing but speak
> idiocies, make blunders and commit crimes; and they are answerable for all
> the setbacks, all the injustices and all the sufferings of the rest of
> humanity" (p. 143).
>
> Exaggeration? Are there really many people;and more than one or two people
> in positions of great influence;in Europe who think this way?
Jean-Fran\ufffdois
> Revel, a well-known conservative (for France) French thinker, believes
this
> is the mainstream of thought among the Continent's intellectual and
cultural
> elites. The author of Without Marx or Jesus (1970), about the United
States'
> 1960s societal revolution without Communist totalitarianism, Revel's
> Anti-Americanism has recently been published in English translation. In
it,
> he explores a virulent spiritual phenomenon: the tendency of fashionable
> leftists and many among the Third World masses to blame the United States
> for everything.
>
> Somehow, America is at fault for Third World poverty, not Third World
> countries' endemic corruption and reliance on socialism. Somehow, free
trade
> and globalization;promoted by America;have impoverished most of the world,
> yet the leaders of those impoverished countries constantly complain that
> there is not enough free trade to make them rich (and especially complain
of
> the West's agricultural subsidies). People in Europe and everywhere else
> voluntarily insist on wearing American clothes, watching American movies,
> listening to American music;and then complain of the Americanization of
> world culture.
>
> What, exactly, do so many people;including a sizeable domestic
constituency
> here at home;hate about America? "Since the end of the Cold War. . .it is
> often said that today's anti-Americanism derives from the fact that the
> United States is now the 'hyperpower'. . .," Revel writes. "But this
doesn't
> reflect reality: anti-Americanism was almost as virulent during the period
> of threatening totalitarianism as it has been after that threat
> disappeared" (p. 3).
>
> It's true: Elite Europeans hated the United States from the moment she
saved
> them from Nazism and while she was protecting them from Communism. And now
> America is taking the lead in protecting the civilized world from
terrorism.
>
> One major reason, of course, is that with the failure of every form of
> socialism, the American model of relatively free markets is taking over
the
> world. It's not globalization anti-American types are against, says Revel.
> "In fact, the Left has always hoped for globalization, but without the
> market;in other words, an ideologically correct world
> government" (p. 39).
>
> A true mark that anti-Americanism is a disease and not a position, Revel
> argues, is how the same anti-Americans will blame the United States for
> opposite reasons. Free trade is one example. Another: Blaming her for not
> taking an active role in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,
> as in the early months of this Bush Administration, and now complaining of
> American interference.
>
> Revel paints a picture of domestic French cultural breakdown, promoted by
> the same anti-Western Civilization left that is so dominant here, that
could
> frighten even an American cultural reactionary, and provides numerous
> quotations from Muslim leaders there as well as elsewhere that are full of
> murderous hatred for the West. In this, Revel asserts, they are being true
> to their religion, despite a Western myth to the contrary. This myth
> "asserts that the Qur'an teaches tolerance and contains no verses
> authorizing violence against non-Muslims or apostates," he writes.
> "Unfortunately, this soothing canard cannot survive even a cursory
> examination of Islam's holy book, which on the contrary is riddled with
> passages putting believers under an obligation to exterminate
> infidels" (p.66).
>
> Revel's highly polemical tone and French sarcasm may turn off some
readers,
> but he collects a great amount of evidence to prove his two points:
> Anti-Americans hate America more for her good qualities than for her
> defects, and anti-Americanism is a pathological disease more than a
reasoned
> position. And he recounts the tremendous benefits that America has
bestowed
> on the world in recent decades;not the least of which was saving it from
two
> European totalitarianisms.
>
> Perhaps the rest of the world owes so much to America that, as
mathematician
> and Christian intellectual Pascal wrote, when gratitude grows too
> great, it turns into hatred.
>
> Joseph D'Agostino is Associate Editor of HUMAN EVENTS.



America
2004-06-10 11:02:11 EST
Bush's anti-Americanism has him pillaging its resources
to make it known as a torturer of innocents.

Sensitive_Asshole
2004-06-10 15:32:59 EST
let me try and help you rednecks understand. To foreigners, Americans
are foreigners interferring in their lives. Do you understand? You
know how much Americans hate the idea of the United Nations suggesting
they not blow up the world 'cuz we wanna''? How do you think these
other countries feel when you go and invade their country, and
interfere in matters you have no idea what you are doing? Bush
doesn't know how to say 'hello' in Iraqi and yet he thinks he's
competent to restructure their entire political system. What a fool.

Sensitive_Asshole
2004-06-10 16:19:54 EST
hatred is not gratitude, that's what libs don't get. When niggers say
they hate you, they aren't being nice to you.

Mark Fox
2004-06-10 19:13:11 EST
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=2383

Anti-Americanism: Substitute for Responsibility
by Joseph A. D'Agostino
Posted Nov 17, 2003

"Anti-Americanism is at base a totalizing, if not a totalitarian, vision.
The peculiar blindness of fanaticism can be recognized in the way it seizes
on a certain behavior of the hated object and sweepingly condemns, only to
condemn with equal fervor the opposite behavior shortly after;or even
simultaneously. . . . According to this vision;in the sense that Littré
confers on the word: a 'phantom projection, a credulous fantasy of fears,
dreams, delusions, superstitions';Americans can do nothing but speak
idiocies, make blunders and commit crimes; and they are answerable for all
the setbacks, all the injustices and all the sufferings of the rest of
humanity" (p. 143).

Exaggeration? Are there really many people;and more than one or two people
in positions of great influence;in Europe who think this way? Jean-François
Revel, a well-known conservative (for France) French thinker, believes this
is the mainstream of thought among the Continent's intellectual and cultural
elites. The author of Without Marx or Jesus (1970), about the United States'
1960s societal revolution without Communist totalitarianism, Revel's
Anti-Americanism has recently been published in English translation. In it,
he explores a virulent spiritual phenomenon: the tendency of fashionable
leftists and many among the Third World masses to blame the United States
for everything.

Somehow, America is at fault for Third World poverty, not Third World
countries' endemic corruption and reliance on socialism. Somehow, free trade
and globalization;promoted by America;have impoverished most of the world,
yet the leaders of those impoverished countries constantly complain that
there is not enough free trade to make them rich (and especially complain of
the West's agricultural subsidies). People in Europe and everywhere else
voluntarily insist on wearing American clothes, watching American movies,
listening to American music;and then complain of the Americanization of
world culture.

What, exactly, do so many people;including a sizeable domestic constituency
here at home;hate about America? "Since the end of the Cold War. . .it is
often said that today's anti-Americanism derives from the fact that the
United States is now the 'hyperpower'. . .," Revel writes. "But this doesn't
reflect reality: anti-Americanism was almost as virulent during the period
of threatening totalitarianism as it has been after that threat
disappeared" (p. 3).

It's true: Elite Europeans hated the United States from the moment she saved
them from Nazism and while she was protecting them from Communism. And now
America is taking the lead in protecting the civilized world from terrorism.

One major reason, of course, is that with the failure of every form of
socialism, the American model of relatively free markets is taking over the
world. It's not globalization anti-American types are against, says Revel.
"In fact, the Left has always hoped for globalization, but without the
market;in other words, an ideologically correct world
government" (p. 39).

A true mark that anti-Americanism is a disease and not a position, Revel
argues, is how the same anti-Americans will blame the United States for
opposite reasons. Free trade is one example. Another: Blaming her for not
taking an active role in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,
as in the early months of this Bush Administration, and now complaining of
American interference.

Revel paints a picture of domestic French cultural breakdown, promoted by
the same anti-Western Civilization left that is so dominant here, that could
frighten even an American cultural reactionary, and provides numerous
quotations from Muslim leaders there as well as elsewhere that are full of
murderous hatred for the West. In this, Revel asserts, they are being true
to their religion, despite a Western myth to the contrary. This myth
"asserts that the Qur'an teaches tolerance and contains no verses
authorizing violence against non-Muslims or apostates," he writes.
"Unfortunately, this soothing canard cannot survive even a cursory
examination of Islam's holy book, which on the contrary is riddled with
passages putting believers under an obligation to exterminate
infidels" (p.66).

Revel's highly polemical tone and French sarcasm may turn off some readers,
but he collects a great amount of evidence to prove his two points:
Anti-Americans hate America more for her good qualities than for her
defects, and anti-Americanism is a pathological disease more than a reasoned
position. And he recounts the tremendous benefits that America has bestowed
on the world in recent decades;not the least of which was saving it from two
European totalitarianisms.

Perhaps the rest of the world owes so much to America that, as mathematician
and Christian intellectual Pascal wrote, when gratitude grows too
great, it turns into hatred.

Joseph D'Agostino is Associate Editor of HUMAN EVENTS.

The Last Church
2004-06-11 01:14:00 EST
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 11:02:11 -0400, America wrote:
><Bush's anti-Americanism has him pillaging its resources
><to make it known as a torturer of innocents.

And Kerry's bisexual lover says he is not Gay.


The Last Church
2004-06-11 01:50:50 EST
On 10 Jun 2004 12:32:59 -0700, littlefelller@yahoo.com
(Sensitive_Asshole) wrote:
Bush
><doesn't know how to say 'hello' in Iraqi and yet he thinks he's
><competent to restructure their entire political system. What a fool.

Any fool can do better than Saddam.


Mark Fox
2004-06-11 08:38:17 EST
l*r@yahoo.com (Sensitive_Asshole) wrote.

> let me try and help you rednecks understand. To foreigners, Americans
> are foreigners interferring in their lives. Do you understand?

Nice try at spinning the issue, Bubba.

So why are they all learning to speak English, wear American cloths,
play American music and watch American movies????

No. It is you who doesn't understand. Those people are angry and ready
to kill because the United States stands in the way of their
domination of the world.

Being left alone by the United States is easy. Just break off
diplomatic relations with America, ban English in your country and
refuse to allow Americans to visit. Wait....That sounds like France!
LOL!

You don't see any countries doing this because they want to play a
part on the world stage. They are angry because they don't perceive
themselves as winning.

North Korea is such a great example. You claim they just want to be
left alone but they are screaming that the free oil shipments we
stopped are an act of war against them. What a joke.

Did Saddam just want to be left alone when he invaded Kuwait? I think
not.


> You
> know how much Americans hate the idea of the United Nations suggesting
> they not blow up the world 'cuz we wanna''?

The United Nations suggested no such thing. There was no resolution
passed by the UN forbidding the US from invading Iraq much less "blow
up the world 'cuz we wanna'". Now you are making up lies to support
your shallow arguments. I love your double standard, Ignore Saddam's
defiance of UN resolutions and then invent some fantasy resolution by
the UN on the United States that never existed. Liberals try to be so
clever in covering up their raw hatred for America.

> How do you think these
> other countries feel when you go and invade their country, and
> interfere in matters you have no idea what you are doing?

UN security council resolution 1441 was approved by unanimous vote.
It directed Saddam to disarm and show proof of his disarmament to the
UN or face "serious consequences". What part of that directive don't
you understand? Are you saying that the UN doesn't know what its
doing?

> Bush
> doesn't know how to say 'hello' in Iraqi and yet he thinks he's
> competent to restructure their entire political system.

Did we do a good job on Germany? How about Japan?

> What a fool.

LOL! Coming from you, Littlefelller, thats a hoot! Are you using
your mothers computer to send that message?

America
2004-06-11 19:25:13 EST
As usual having failed to understand, mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) wrote:

>So why are they all learning to speak English, wear American cloths, [sic]
>play American music and watch American movies????

They're not.
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