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Pearl
2006-06-08 04:46:39 EST
>From HSUS: Principal Buyer of Canadian Seal Skins
Subsidized by Govt. to Burn Pelts

Begin forwarded message:

PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY

Just when you think you've heard the most evil,
cynical, greedy, obscene act, along comes one
to beat it! The ice floes have been running red
with the blood of baby seals being clubbed to
death for their pelts, and now we learn this.
How much worse can it get?

This information begs to be posted everywhere!
____________________________

Principal Buyer of Canadian Seal Skins Subsidized
by Government To Burn Pelts

June 7, 2006

Washington - The Humane Society of the United States
today reacted to news that a Norwegian company has
destroyed 10,000 harp seal skins, commenting that the
revelation contradicts claims of strong markets for seal
products.

Norwegian media outlets reported last week that the
top buyer of Canadian seal pelts, Norwegian based
GC Rieber, was paid by the Norwegian government to
destroy 10,000 harp seal skins. GC Rieber is considered
the economic backbone of the Canadian sealing industry,
each year buying 50 to 80 percent of the skins from
seals killed during the annual seal hunt in Canada. Slain
Canadian seals account for more than 90 percent of
Rieber's seal skin business.

"For years we've suspected some form of price rigging
through hidden government subsidies - now we have
proof," said Rebecca Aldworth, director of Canadian
wildlife issues for The Humane Society of the United States.
"These revelations demonstrate that the Canadian seal hunt,
in addition to being cruel and inhumane, is also economically
unjustified."

GC Rieber purchases sealskins through its Newfoundland
subsidiary, Carino, and has repeatedly claimed that the
demand for seal products is so strong they cannot match
supply. However, a recent media report revealed that the
Norwegian government has paid Rieber 2 million Norwegian
kroner (about $370,000 CAD/ $330,000 USD) to burn
10,000 excess Norwegian harp seal skins.

The Norwegian harp seal skins were obtained from sealers,
who had also received major government subsidies
(2.5 million Norwegian kroner) to kill the seals. The
Norwegian government justified the burning of the skins,
indicating it was impossible to find markets for the harp
seal pelts.

Animal protection groups and trade specialists have
questioned the repeated claims of strong sealskin markets
made by Rieber in recent years.

"In 2000, the markets were so weak that Carino stopped
buying seal skins halfway through the season, and sealers
returning from the hunt dumped their seal skins into the
ocean because they were worthless," said Aldworth.
"Just a few years later, Carino is claiming their sales are
the strongest they've ever been - even as major European
markets are closing."







Chico Chupacabra
2006-06-08 09:12:39 EST
"pearl" <lesley@foot.rub> wrote:

> From HSUS: Principal Buyer of Canadian Seal Skins
> Subsidized by Govt. to Burn Pelts
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> PLEASE CROSSPOST WIDELY

You shouldn't do that, really. I know you can't help yourself, you little emotional wreck.

> Just when you think you've heard the most evil,
> cynical, greedy, obscene act, along comes one
> to beat it! The ice floes have been running red
> with the blood of baby seals being clubbed to
> death for their pelts, and now we learn this.
> How much worse can it get?
>
> This information begs to be posted everywhere!

No, it doesn't, but that won't stop you.

> ____________________________
>
> Principal Buyer of Canadian Seal Skins Subsidized
> by Government To Burn Pelts
>
> June 7, 2006
>
> Washington - The Humane Society of the United States
> today reacted to news that a Norwegian company has
> destroyed 10,000 harp seal skins, commenting that the
> revelation contradicts claims of strong markets for seal
> products.

It's not contradictory, it's only one way to suppress supply to inflate prices. It's not unlike any other commodity which is limited to inflate market price. Diamonds come to mind, so does food.

Diamonds would be worthless if the entire supply were released at once. The cooperatives that control the supply of diamonds, like deBoers, withhold product and store diamonds in large warehouses to regulate price.

So, too, do farmers and middlemen hold back and even destroy perfectly good food. This is especially true in years when crop surpluses drive down price. It's also done to keep prices stable, such as when supermarkets dump food they don't sell (see alarmist article linked below), over the objections of socialist ninnies who think the food should be given away instead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/yorkslincs/series7/supermarket_landfills.shtml

Your emotive little article also forgets one important part of the seal hunt story -- that seal hunts aren't strictly for their fur, but rather to check out-of-control seal populations and thereby reduce pressure on fish populations. To that end, it's irrelevant what happens with the seal meat or pelts. Get your facts straight, Lesley.

Animal Eater
2006-06-08 10:20:37 EST
Here's pictures of Heather Mills McCartney acting in a porno movie.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006250730,00.html



By VICTORIA NEWTON
Showbiz Editor

LADY Heather McCartney posed in depraved pornographic clinches which are bound
to sicken her estranged husband Sir Paul and his army of fans.

The ex-model was snapped in a string of lurid scenes for a hard core German
book.

Many of the images are too explicit to print in a family newspaper.

One shot shows Heather naked and smothered in baby oil as she performs a sex
act on a nude male porn star. The curly-haired man is then photographed
performing an act on her with the help of a sex toy.

In other shots Heather appears to act out bondage scenes with whips, handcuffs
and edible underwear.

Dressed in red stockings, suspenders and a corset ? and with long red-painted
nails ? she looks like the madam of a sleazy brothel.

She is also seen smearing herself and the male co-star with whipped cream and
baby oil. In some snaps her nipples are covered with lipstick.

In other scenes, Heather and the man appear to have sex and perform sex acts
while watching themselves in a mirror. And in yet more, Heather ends up naked
during a game of strip poker.

The porn shoot was published in 1988 ? five years before the blonde became
famous after losing her leg when hit by a police motorbike.

Brazen ... Heather with Sir Paul

Now 38 and mum to Sir Paul?s two-year-old Beatrice, she stopped at very little
when she took part in the revolting snaps for Die Freuden Der Liebe ? The Joys
Of Love.

The filthy volume features 112 pages filled with pictures ? and contains NO
accompanying words.

Heather and Sir Paul, 63, announced last month that they were separating after
just four years of marriage. Geordie-born Heather could claim up to £200million
in a divorce.

Ex-Beatle Sir Paul had earlier apparently turned a blind eye to his wife?s
?colourful? past ? insisting it was all slurs by jealous fans and mean media
commentators.


*
Click here to find out more!


She was once even asked on a US chat show if she had ever been a prostitute,
which she denied.

Days ago The Sun told how Heather was a would-be escort girl who dated rich
Arabs behind the back of first hubby Alfie Karmal.

He said: ?I caught her out lying over a job interview, which turned out to be
an interview with an escort agency. Heather claimed she didn?t know it was an
escort agency and said she thought she would just be showing clients around
London.

?Under that beautiful, caring facade was a manipulative, callous and cold
woman.?

Since news of their split became public, Paul has gone out of his way to defend
his estranged wife. He regularly posts messages on his website attacking
sections of the media for branding her a ?gold-digger?.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Lazimodo
2006-06-08 10:33:40 EST
That apparently is what the Norwegians thought of
thier product,
in relation to the Newfoundland pelts.

Did you happen to know if they burned the flippers,
too?

That is the tastiest part of the seal. The flipper.
Flipper Pie.
Ribs are good in stew. Meat (ie rump, groin) are best
canned with onions.

Since there is nothing left for the seals to eat, and
in twenty years there will be no ice for
them to be born on, maybe they should just shoot them
all now. Have a big old scoff.
I'll bring the accordion if you'll bring the liquor!


Yes By.

PS Do cows go mad when you pull thier tails? Do
chickens drink thier wages
when they get out of thier cages?



Leif Erikson
2006-06-08 14:18:04 EST
pearl wrote:
> From HSUS: Principal Buyer of Canadian Seal Skins
> Subsidized by Govt. to Burn Pelts

HSUS is a quasi-terrorist organization.


Pearl
2006-06-08 15:12:32 EST
"chico chupacabra" <support@our.troops> wrote in message news:20060608081212.72f34d90.support@our.troops...

> to check out-of-control seal populations and thereby reduce pressure on fish populations.

'The Northwest population historically was greater than 30 million,
but the population declined by 50-66% between 1950 and 1970
due to commercial hunting in Canada, and by 1970, was in
serious trouble. Since 1970 it has nearly tripled in size to 5.2
million according to a peer-reviewed survey in 1999. ..'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harp_Seal

How "Factory Fishing" Decimated Newfoundland Cod
http://www.emagazine.com/view/?507

'Those who support the theory that seals are destroying the
fish are only exposing their ignorance of ecological systems.
The reasoning that less seals will result in more fish or that
more seals will deplete existing fish populations is an
unscientific belief because it is a belief not backed by
observation or data.
..
The life that thrives in the oceans has a critical influence
on the overall health of the ocean system. The great herds
of seals are a life force whose influence on the health of the
ocean can be recognized once the complexities of the food
chain are investigated and understood.
.....'
http://www.harpseals.org/hunt/ecosystem.html





Paul Morgan
2006-06-08 15:16:34 EST
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:12:32 +0100, "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie>
wrote:

>"chico chupacabra" <support@our.troops> wrote in message news:20060608081212.72f34d90.support@our.troops...
>
>> to check out-of-control seal populations and thereby reduce pressure on fish populations.
>
>'The Northwest population historically was greater than 30 million,
>but the population declined by 50-66% between 1950 and 1970
>due to commercial hunting in Canada, and by 1970, was in
>serious trouble. Since 1970 it has nearly tripled in size to 5.2
>million according to a peer-reviewed survey in 1999. ..'
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harp_Seal
>

Wikpedia is not a very good source of information. It allows people to
make their own entries.

Ronald 'More-More' Moshki
2006-06-08 15:29:38 EST

Leif Erikson wrote:
> pearl wrote:
> > From HSUS: Principal Buyer of Canadian Seal Skins
> > Subsidized by Govt. to Burn Pelts
>
> HSUS is a quasi-terrorist organization.
-------------------------------------------------------------
The HSUS is a tame bunch.

The cowards though are the ones who kill and torture
those who can't fight back, same as child rapist/murderers


Paul Morgan
2006-06-08 16:14:24 EST
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:14:40 +0100, "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie>
wrote:

>"Paul Morgan" <here@home.net> wrote in message news:8rtg82d3tv80ik2j7e2t8qai6qsqba74f6@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:12:32 +0100, "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"chico chupacabra" <support@our.troops> wrote in message news:20060608081212.72f34d90.support@our.troops...
>> >
>> >> to check out-of-control seal populations and thereby reduce pressure on fish populations.
>> >
>> >'The Northwest population historically was greater than 30 million,
>> >but the population declined by 50-66% between 1950 and 1970
>> >due to commercial hunting in Canada, and by 1970, was in
>> >serious trouble. Since 1970 it has nearly tripled in size to 5.2
>> >million according to a peer-reviewed survey in 1999. ..'
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harp_Seal
>> >
>>
>> Wikpedia is not a very good source of information. It allows people to
>> make their own entries.
>
>'The North Atlantic Harp seal population once maintained itself
>at over 30 million animals. Shoreline hunting existed for centuries
>without significantly reducing this population. Between 1750 and
>1950, however, seagoing ships reduced the herd to about 3.5 million,
>approximately 10% of the peak. From 1951, Canada kept a seal
>census, but pelt landings crashed from 350,000 per year to 120,000
>by 1972.
>..
>For several millennia to the 18th century, some 30 million Harp
>seals lived in a North Atlantic teeming with cod, capelin, herring,
>and so forth. If 30 million seals did not deplete the fish stocks,
>it is inconceivable that 3 million seals will deplete the fish stocks.
>
>Unsustainable harvesting by humans has caused the decline of
>fish and seal populations. At the peak of the seal hunt, in the
>1830s, hunters killed 700,000 Harp seals per year, devastating
>the herds. Poor fisheries management led to the depletion of
>the cod throughout the North Atlantic. Adult harp seals grow
>to 300 pounds and require about 3 kilograms of fish per day.
>They feed on herring, capelin, cod, bottom dwelling plaice and
>halibut, other fish, and crustacea, including mysids, amphipods
>and shrimps.
>
>However, and this is the key point to grok, when fish eat fish,
>or when seals eat fish, the nutrients remain in the ocean. They
>are recycled. When humans remove fish from the ocean, the
>nutrients are removed. Fisheries scientists generally ignore
>this fact. Seals and fish clearly coexisted for millennia.
>Embarrassed fisheries officers have simply used seals as a
>scapegoat for poor management.
>...'
>http://thetyee.ca/Views/2005/04/11/HuntingSeals/
>


Written by a Greenpeace groupie.
Do you not have any hard facts written by a professional scientist?

Pearl
2006-06-08 16:14:40 EST
"Paul Morgan" <here@home.net> wrote in message news:8rtg82d3tv80ik2j7e2t8qai6qsqba74f6@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:12:32 +0100, "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie>
> wrote:
>
> >"chico chupacabra" <support@our.troops> wrote in message news:20060608081212.72f34d90.support@our.troops...
> >
> >> to check out-of-control seal populations and thereby reduce pressure on fish populations.
> >
> >'The Northwest population historically was greater than 30 million,
> >but the population declined by 50-66% between 1950 and 1970
> >due to commercial hunting in Canada, and by 1970, was in
> >serious trouble. Since 1970 it has nearly tripled in size to 5.2
> >million according to a peer-reviewed survey in 1999. ..'
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harp_Seal
> >
>
> Wikpedia is not a very good source of information. It allows people to
> make their own entries.

'The North Atlantic Harp seal population once maintained itself
at over 30 million animals. Shoreline hunting existed for centuries
without significantly reducing this population. Between 1750 and
1950, however, seagoing ships reduced the herd to about 3.5 million,
approximately 10% of the peak. From 1951, Canada kept a seal
census, but pelt landings crashed from 350,000 per year to 120,000
by 1972.
..
For several millennia to the 18th century, some 30 million Harp
seals lived in a North Atlantic teeming with cod, capelin, herring,
and so forth. If 30 million seals did not deplete the fish stocks,
it is inconceivable that 3 million seals will deplete the fish stocks.

Unsustainable harvesting by humans has caused the decline of
fish and seal populations. At the peak of the seal hunt, in the
1830s, hunters killed 700,000 Harp seals per year, devastating
the herds. Poor fisheries management led to the depletion of
the cod throughout the North Atlantic. Adult harp seals grow
to 300 pounds and require about 3 kilograms of fish per day.
They feed on herring, capelin, cod, bottom dwelling plaice and
halibut, other fish, and crustacea, including mysids, amphipods
and shrimps.

However, and this is the key point to grok, when fish eat fish,
or when seals eat fish, the nutrients remain in the ocean. They
are recycled. When humans remove fish from the ocean, the
nutrients are removed. Fisheries scientists generally ignore
this fact. Seals and fish clearly coexisted for millennia.
Embarrassed fisheries officers have simply used seals as a
scapegoat for poor management.
...'
http://thetyee.ca/Views/2005/04/11/HuntingSeals/


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