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Ben
2005-12-26 13:17:02 EST
Hi,

We have a small pomeranian/shih tzu cross, who is 15 months old, we got him
from someone who didn't want him 2 months ago, he's virtually perfect apart
from having a habit of jumping up at other dogs, and trying to 'mouth' their
ears I say 'mouth' rather than bite, because he does it to us, and doesn't
ever bite, just mouths them, and ends up licking. We've tried telling him
off, and using treats to distract him away. However it becomes a problem
when he does it to other dogs, because I'm sure they think he IS trying to
bite, so they growl and bark at him, and this in turn causes him to growl
and bark, so things can end up getting nasty. I get the feeling he may have
been removed from his litter too soon, and probably wasn't socialised with
other dogs by his previous owners.

Can anyone offer any suggestion as to why he goes for the ears? Is it a
domination thing? And does anyone have a way of stopping it?

Many thanks

Ben



A Poor Shepherd Boy And His Dog At His Masters Feet
2005-12-26 16:17:22 EST
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Ben wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have a small pomeranian/shih tzu cross,

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

> who is 15 months old,

Any three week old puppy got all the brains he needs to
HOWEtwit the cunning of the professinal domestic puppy
dog trainer or university trained behaviorist.

> we got him from someone who didn't want him 2 months ago,
> he's virtually perfect apart from having a habit of jumping
> up at other dogs, and trying to 'mouth' their ears I say
>'mouth' rather than bite, because he does it to us, and doesn't
> ever bite, just mouths them,

Jumpin up and MHOWETHING are BONDING behaviors.

> and ends up licking.

Licking is SUBMISSIVE behavior.

> We've tried telling him off,

THAT'LL REJECT his INSTINCTIVE bonding efforts and
cause him to become MORE submissive, increasing his
licking MHOWETHING and jumping up.

> and using treats to distract him away.

THAT'LL REWARD his BONDING efforts and may make him aggressive:

Dr. George VonHilsheimer writes in
"Is there a SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?":

"Valette 1966 is a complete trivialization of
scientific findings. It overstates the case for
reinforcement theory. No careful researcher
would contend that operant techniques CAN
ANY THING MORE than modify SHORT TERM
BEHAVIOR in a highly controlled and limited
environment with a large number of skillful
experimenters. Certainly the most elaborate
studies have shown that the withdrawal or
temprary inefficiency of the reward system is
immediately followed by CESSATION of the
programmed behavior."

"The IMBECILITY of some ofthe claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and
learning immediately deteriorated.

Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic therapists.
Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of programmed
systems for learning; 2) reinforcement; 3) cognitive dissonance;
and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of
operant programers."

> However it becomes a problem when he does it to other dogs,
> because I'm sure they think he IS trying to bite, so they
> growl and bark at him, and this in turn causes him to growl
> and bark, so things can end up getting nasty.

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative reinforcement"
(1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY model involves the
USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse, Skinner has never to my
knowledge, demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression (Azrin et al,
1966). "

> I get the feeling

Dog trainin got NUTHIN to do with FEELINS or PREFERENCES.

> he may have been removed from his litter too soon,

THAT'S ABSURD.

> and probably wasn't socialised with other dogs by his previous owners.

He was "socialized" pryor to leavin his litterbox.

> Can anyone offer any suggestion as to why he goes for the ears?

He's just tryin to say "HOWEDY!"

> Is it a domination thing?

THAT'S INSANE. Your dog is becoming AGGRESSIVE on accHOWENT
of YOUR BRIBES and EFFORTS to RESTRAIN his BONDING behaviors.

> And does anyone have a way of stopping it?

You're askin LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE ACUTE
CHRONIC LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES for advice THEY
AIN'T GOT.

From: Becky (Becky...@new.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Crate Anxiety
Date: 2002-04-04 12:56:23 PST

Try Jerry Howe's training manual and check
out his Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A
Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too)
machine....it is for this.

Please do not listen to the others in here that
don't like him or his methods, they have never
tried them....I have and it works!!!!

I broke my dog from nipping almost 100% in
1 day and she usually does this SEVERAL
times a day and actually makes my kids bleed!

Try it or contact him! The manual is at the
above website also, and it is free!

Becky

------------------------

"Ned" wrote in message
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Hi !
Our black lab girl is 3 months old (she will be 4 months
on the 30th).

When we first brought her home she had a bad habit
of trying to nip our faces (including my 3 year old
twins) during playtime. It drove everyone in the house
nuts and it brought my little girls to tears as you can
imagine.

We tried saying no, and that would just get her even
more excited, so we would yell no and that would just
get her "scared" but still excited. In short it just
wasn't working.

So we finally did what Jerry has suggested to you.
We used a sound do distract her and we would
immediately praise her.

I have to say that it worked great. BUT she
then moved on to nipping at the feet LOL silly
little thing.

So again, we tried no, and then louder no, but again
it didn't work so we went for the distraction and praise.

I must say that she is doing great!

I hope that helps.

Edyta aka Ned

> Many thanks

You're welcome.

> Ben

From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).

--Larry

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology

Punishment Deranges Behavior.
"NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
EXCEPT
To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

--Marshall


Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"


From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps

In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall
Dermer) writes:
>In article <35E60819.65178...@pilot.msu.edu> tami sutherland
><suthe...@pilot.msu.edu> writes:

>> However, there have been incidences where she has
>> growled and snapped at us...for instance, when we
>> were trying to dry her off after bathtime.

> When your three-month old pooch growls or snaps, IMMEDIATELY
> pick her up ONLY by the skin at the back of her neck, for 5
> sec, and loudly say, "NO!" Alternatively, say "NO!" and hold
> her mouth shut for say 15 sec.

> If she so snaps that you can't do the above then you
> will have to find another way to administer a prompt
> correction, for example, throwing a can filled with
> pennies, or a tug on the collar.

--Marshall

"Oops! I would start by only holing her mouth
shut for say 5 sec.

At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<*.@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer


Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.

'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

>Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
>Date: 02/05/1999
>Author: Robert Crim <fritzg...@earthlink.net>
> You filthy, unctuous, no good charlatan. If you had
> any idea of what dogs and dog people were about
> you would realize the depths of the absolute loathing
> and contempt I hold for you right now. Were it not
> for the blessed distance and anonymity that the internet
> gives us from the scummy likes of you, I would probably
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of shit you really are

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

=====================

> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy,
"you insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HOWEDY Ben,

WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Forums. I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard. Here's your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual:

<{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
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<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
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Ben wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have a small pomeranian/shih tzu cross,


A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.

> who is 15 months old,

Any three week old puppy got all the brains he needs to
HOWEtwit the cunning of the professinal domestic puppy
dog trainer or university trained behaviorist.

> we got him from someone who didn't want him 2 months ago,
> he's virtually perfect apart from having a habit of jumping
> up at other dogs, and trying to 'mouth' their ears I say
>'mouth' rather than bite, because he does it to us, and doesn't
> ever bite, just mouths them,

Jumpin up and MHOWETHING are BONDING behaviors.

> and ends up licking.

Licking is SUBMISSIVE behavior.

> We've tried telling him off,

THAT'LL REJECT his apupriate bonding efforts and cause
him to become MORE submissive, increasing his licking
MHOWETHING and jumping up.

> and using treats to distract him away.

THAT'LL REWARD his BONDING efforts and may make him aggressive:

Dr. George VonHilsheimer writes in
"Is there a SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?":

"Valette 1966 is a complete trivialization of
scientific findings. It overstates the case for
reinforcement theory. No careful researcher
would contend that operant techniques CAN
ANY THING MORE than modify SHORT TERM
BEHAVIOR in a highly controlled and limited
environment with a large number of skillful
experimenters. Certainly the most elaborate
studies have shown that the withdrawal or
temprary inefficiency of the reward system is
immediately followed by CESSATION of the
programmed behavior."

"The IMBECILITY of some ofthe claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are reported to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and
learning immediately deteriorated.

Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic therapists.
Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of programmed
systems for learning; 2) reinforcement; 3) cognitive dissonance;
and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of
operant programers."

> However it becomes a problem when he does it to other dogs,
> because I'm sure they think he IS trying to bite, so they
> growl and bark at him, and this in turn causes him to growl
> and bark, so things can end up getting nasty.

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY
model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse,
Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966). "

> I get the feeling

Dog trainin got NUTHIN to do with FEELINS or PREFERENCES.

> he may have been removed from his litter too soon,

THAT'S ABSURD.

> and probably wasn't socialised with other dogs by his previous owners.

He was "socialized" pryor to leavin his litterbox.

> Can anyone offer any suggestion as to why he goes for the ears?

He's just tryin to say "HOWEDY!"

> Is it a domination thing?

THAT'S INSANE. Your dog is becoming AGGRESSIVE on accHOWENT
of YOUR BRIBES and EFFORTS to RESTRAIN his BONDING behaviors.

> And does anyone have a way of stopping it?

You're askin LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE ACUTE
CHRONIC LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES for advice THEY
AIN'T GOT.

From: Becky (Becky...@new.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Crate Anxiety
Date: 2002-04-04 12:56:23 PST

Try Jerry Howe's training manual and check
out his Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A
Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too) machine....it is for
this.

Please do not listen to the others in here that
don't like him or his methods, they have never
tried them....I have and it works!!!!

I broke my dog from nipping almost 100% in
1 day and she usually does this SEVERAL
times a day and actually makes my kids bleed!

Try it or contact him! The manual is at the
above website also, and it is free!

Becky

------------------------

"Ned" wrote in message
news:fQIg9.25850$561.25365@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...

Hi !
Our black lab girl is 3 months old (she will be 4 months
on the 30th).

When we first brought her home she had a bad habit
of trying to nip our faces (including my 3 year old
twins) during playtime. It drove everyone in the house
nuts and it brought my little girls to tears as you can
imagine.

We tried saying no, and that would just get her even
more excited, so we would yell no and that would just
get her "scared" but still excited. In short it just
wasn't working.

So we finally did what Jerry has suggested to you.
We used a sound do distract her and we would
immediately praise her.

I have to say that it worked great. BUT she
then moved on to nipping at the feet LOL silly
little thing.

So again, we tried no, and then louder no, but again
it didn't work so we went for the distraction and praise.

I must say that she is doing great!

I hope that helps.

Edyta aka Ned

> Many thanks

You're welcome.

> Ben


From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).

--Larry

What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology

Punishment Deranges Behavior.
"NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
EXCEPT
To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

--Marshall


Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"


From: der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps

In article <6s6ea0$8c...@uwm.edu> der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Marshall
Dermer) writes:
>In article <35E60819.65178...@pilot.msu.edu> tami sutherland
><suthe...@pilot.msu.edu> writes:

>> However, there have been incidences where she has
>> growled and snapped at us...for instance, when we
>> were trying to dry her off after bathtime.

> When your three-month old pooch growls or snaps, IMMEDIATELY
> pick her up ONLY by the skin at the back of her neck, for 5
> sec, and loudly say, "NO!" Alternatively, say "NO!" and hold
> her mouth shut for say 15 sec.

> If she so snaps that you can't do the above then you
> will have to find another way to administer a prompt
> correction, for example, throwing a can filled with
> pennies, or a tug on the collar.

--Marshall


"Oops! I would start by only holing her mouth
shut for say 5 sec.

At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<*.@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer


Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.

'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

>Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
>Date: 02/05/1999
>Author: Robert Crim <fritzg...@earthlink.net>
> You filthy, unctuous, no good charlatan. If you had
> any idea of what dogs and dog people were about
> you would realize the depths of the absolute loathing
> and contempt I hold for you right now. Were it not
> for the blessed distance and anonymity that the internet
> gives us from the scummy likes of you, I would probably
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of shit you really are

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

=====================

> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy,
"you insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Animal Behavior Forensic
Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-509

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <}YPW; ~ } >
oo-oo


T*@Mail.Com
2005-12-26 20:34:14 EST
HOWEDY pat,

unsurreality_2005@yahoo.com wrote:
> A Poor Shepherd Boy And His Dog At His Masters Feet wrote:
> > HOWEDY Ben,
> >
> > WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
> > NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
> > Training Method Manual Forums. I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing
> > Puppy Wizard.
>
> It's STILL not your forum,

The heel it AIN'T, pat <{); ~ ) >

> > so, continue your lies as usual...

CITES PLEASE?

> > Here's your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
> > CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
> > Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual:
>
> It's a piece of crap,

On accHOWENT of it doesn't teach folks to jerk
and choke their dogs on pronged spiked pinch
choke collars like HOWE you prefer, pat?

> but if people want to kill their dogs, I'd highly
> reccommend getting it.

INDEED? HOWE COME you WANT folks to HURT
and INTIMIDATE their dogs like HOWE you do your
own dog, pat?

From: unsurreality_2...@yahoo.com
Date: 23 Dec 2005 16:33:45 -0800
Subject: Re: Pinging Jerry Howe [ninnyboy] [jerry]

> HOWEDY Benny Hinn,

> Benny Hinn wrote:
> > dano wrote:

> > > He might read email, but doesn't seem to answer any,

> The Amazing Puppy Wizard has been havin problems with HIS emails.

> > > would rather spend his time here talking to himself,

> Seems everyWON is listenin...

> > > answer questions nobody's asked,

> Yeah, that's the fancy part... AIN'T IT.

> > > including some posts from years ago.

> THAT ain't as difficult as answerin questions iN ADVANCE.

> > > Talking to him here only makes him slander you for no reason,

> Tsk tsk, dano. Seems your FEELINS are hurt.

> > > so you'll have better luck consulting dung,

> Ahhh, the ancient art of dung readin, scat scrying,
> as it's known in the industry <{) ; ~ ) >

> > > at least you'f get the same results.

> Well, you can tell HOWE big and what direction your PRAY is goin...

> > I love dogs.

> LikeWIZE, Benny.

> > I pray to God the almighty for Jerry Howe to overcome his anger in life.

> The ONLY thing that makes Jerry Howe The Amazing Puppy Wizard
> ANGRY is ANIMAL and CHILD abusers, Benny.

But it's just FINE for you to abuse PEOPLE, huh? I can't let my son
read this newsgroup JUST BECAUSE OF YOU, yet you are ANGRY at child
abusers?!? You are a fucking idiot.

> > His sense of needing to persecute those

> You mean IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT the ABUSERS, Benny.

WHEN are you going to start EXPOSING and DISCREDITING people?
So far you have a grand total of ZERO discredits. I mean, shit - after
6
years you have failed every time trying to "discredit" people. When
are you going to succeed for once?

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats?

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

'This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue'

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20

g*.@my-deja.com wrote:
> How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled). If the dog makes an
aggressive move towards the cat, it must be corrected strongly
with both your voice and the collar. This is important - the
correction must be physically very strong - not a nag. (PS:
not many dogs need to be corrected at all).

> > that he feels are lesser than himself.

> Naaah. The Amazing Puppy Wizard is far better at ABUSING
> abusers than the DOG and CHILD LOVERS could EVER be.

I wouldn't put it that way. You are far better at being a dipshit
asshole than anyone else - now THAT is true.

From: Eric
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in...

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago regarding
submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you know he's doing
great- he was "cured" in about 2 days using your techniques!
He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"! Once I
stopped thinking like a human and got inside his head, I can
teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter of minutes. Makes me
look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed 'em,
and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside their
heads and teach them to teach themselves how to be good dogs!
Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T",
I learned from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate
their brain rather than beating ass or pinching, or any
of that nonsense. I know damn well I would NOT be loyal
to someone who beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes out
there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs. A
horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows any
more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it (pun
intended)... Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

====================

See, folks - the way this jackass works is by determining what is
"abuse" and what is not abuse on his own. For example: he could deem
using the word "the" as being abusive of the English language, and will

then call you a word abuser, a child abuser, a spouse abuser for that.
He's really that crazy.

"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote in message
news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.

Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm,
was to praise the dog after each clap
of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!

This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

The next time it thundered, he did not even
react at all--you could not tell it was the same
dog as before.

There was more thunder just the other day,
and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no
cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all,
it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.

Wonderfully.

Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita

Here's a OTHER:

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

====================

Stay away from his piece of shit "manual," his stupid-as-hell
writings in here - he is so clueless it's crazy...

jerry
first i want to thank you for the BIOSOUND Scientific Integrator
and also for your training manual i first got the Biosound when
maggie was a puppy and it was great help in getting to relieve
stress or to relieve stress in her when we added riley to our family
we had some tense times as you know rily was 15 months old and
had had extensive training ,but was very set in his ways

biosound relieved his stress from the change that took place in his
life mixing with maggie has been a wonderful experience for us
watching them play and react together is a real pleasure they are
both very good therapy dogs and Biosound helped us get them
started and to stay on the right track
thanks for everything

john j mamaux
carlsbad ca

=========================

HOWEDY Group,

Here some SUCCESS STORIES ive had
using JERRY'S MANUAL

1) My dogz, two bitches - Vicious, barking, aggressive,
pulled on leash, wanted to kill any dogs they saw, fought
between each other. TWO WEEKS using Jerry's manual,
they were calm, friends, my companions.

2) ADDED A BEAGLE PUPPY (male) to my "PACK", the
girls had -NO PROBLEMS- with him from the moment I
dropped him by their noses.

3) My FRIENDS dogs 2 MALES barking and jumping
at the fence all night 3 DAYS TRAINING WITH JERRY'S
MANUAL they were CALMED AND HAVEN'T BARKED ONCE!

Added a NEW MALE DOG (2 yrs old) AND
WELCOMED HIM WITH NO WUCKAS !

4) POODLE that ATE food from the KITCHEN BENCH -
lock him in a box? NO! USE JERRYS MANUAL! 4 DAYS
AND HES NEVER DONE IT SINCE!

5) ABUSED DOGS AT THE SHELTER I WORK AT -
HAD TO BE FED WITH A BUCKET ON A STICK -
ONE WEEK ON JERRYS MANUAL, THE SUPERVISOR
TOLD ME TO PUT THEM IN THE PUBLIC KENNELS
FOR SALE !

Quite amazing to - I thought they were just dull coloured
dogs, but after I had removed the fear and anxiety their
hairs coloured up amazingly.

6) STAFFY FEMALE who would NOT DROP HER
BALL! She carried it around all day and night - 3
DAYS on jerrys MANUAL and she now DROPS
it when u ASK her to!

BWHWHAHAHAHAAHA !!!!

Nevyn

============

> >
> > <{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
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> > <{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u < { ~ :{@}>
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> >
> > Ben wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We have a small pomeranian/shih tzu cross,
> >
> > A DOG Is A Dog;
> > As A KAT Is A KAT;
> > As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
> > As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
> > As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES
> > As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.
>
> Again, this is where AssHowe shows his true ignorance, Accoring to
> this, all dogs are the same, all cats (that's how it's spelled,
> asshowe) are exactly the same, all birds are exactly the same, and the
> next two - "A child is a child" and a "spouse is a spouse" (that's how
> it's spelled, Asshowe) are exactly the same worldwide.

The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific
And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Safe Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

> This simplistic view of living creatures is so wrong there are
> no words to describe what an imbecile AssHowe is.

Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson,
Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH
Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The
Scientific Management Of Doggys. <{) ; ~ ) >

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

> You see, AssHowe is not at all intelligent and can't understand
> much more than 2+2 = 4, if even that.

"Whelan illustrates the simple nature or the
learning process by referring to Ferster's
engaging study of two three year old
chimpanzees taught mathematics through
simple procedures. Whelan carries this
EVIDENCE a step futher by pointing HOWET
it's applicability to disturbed children.

If chimpanzees CAN LEARN mathematics
through step by step learning AT THEIR OWN
PACE, reinforced primarily by CORRECT
ANSWERS rather than with "fruit loops and
rasins", we can assume that even developmentally
RETARDED or CONfHOWENDED children CAN
LEARN as well.

Moreover, Whelan makes the EXXXTREMELY important point
that while most teachers assume that learning takes place
verbally, primarily it is a non verbal process..

Unfortunately Whelan limits himself to the problem
that "teachers must not only modify or remove specific
deviant behaviors, but must also develop socially
acceptable behavior patterns in the classroom and
classroom conditioned goals, NOT LEARNING."

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The
Scientific Management Of Doggys. <{) ; ~ ) >

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement." Pavlov.

IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are
what reinforces any behavior. "All animals
learn best through play." -- Konrad Lorenz

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition," Ivan P. Pavlov

> HE doesn't EVEN know the frequency his snake oil device
> "Doggy Do Right" - which he says he invented - works.

It WORKS like freakin MAGICK:

From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.

A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

=================

Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue,
Animal Comissioner Brevard Co FL,
writes: Sep 9, 2000

"I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful and
the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right does
indeed exist.

I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
but our cats and even us.

She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.

It is not just my opinion that all this aggression existed
before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by three vets
to euthanize her.

I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
has helped my dogs and cats. I do think your product is a
valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior
problems.

I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter approximately
100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC
dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club,
president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for
Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county
commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat
club, assistant County manager, head of animal control,
director of two different shelters, etc.) and Space Coast
Feline Network http://www.spacecoastfelinenet work.com

Thanks, Elaine,

===================

Hi Jerry,

I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have since
borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very
highly of it.

So, I brought it home and plugged it in. Of course, I
wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have every
one immediately fall to the floor in little comas for a few
hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be quiet, still no
comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds at that point. So,
I gave it a little longer. Still no comas. Was this really
going to work? I mean, I do have an unusual situation.

So, by bedtime, a few hours later. I started to notice just
how many were asleep already - with their feet in the air! I
started to have hope. During the night, all was calm. In the
morning when I got up, only a few of them WALKED quietly
to the door to go out. Not the usual evacuation.

I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect. I
wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters had
resurfaced. I wondered if I could break into Elaine's house
and if she would notice

I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues
Beagles. She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house. God
bless her. She is interested to see if it will work for her. I
also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue, and
she is interested. The cat rescue people have monthly
meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.

So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
about the best way to use it in my case, I would appreciate
it. I of course wanted to keep it on the highest setting, but
don't know if that is advised, even with my situation of so
many new ones coming and (too few) going.

Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc. I
think the vets should have the info in their offices. It must
help dogs with separation anxiety. My vet practices
homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I
would think it would be right up her alley.

Thank you.
Desiree M Webber
A New Leash On Life

================

From: "Regina Guerrero" <>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: Thank You!

I just wanted to take a bit of time to tell you how much I
appreciate your product and your training methods as well.

When my little Chihuahua first arrived I was overwhelmed
with her anxiety and her ability to just Bark endlessly.

I received your product and at first I thought I was using it
wrong, because my puppy just seemed to ignore it.

But after a week or two, she began to calm down considerably
as well as act more friendly towards people on the street.

I can't believe the difference I see in my little puppy.
Your product is a life saver! Thanks again for everything.

Sincerely,
Regina Guerrero

==================

Nevyn" <ali...@wasp.net.au> wrote in message
news:fde575d9.0209090337.34fb7ee2@posting.google.com...

Hi There Jerry

Its Nevyn. Sorry Ive not been posting, but I've been working
weekend work at the tracks with the greyhounds (thanks to
you!).

Well my dogs are the envy of all on my street. I can have them
out in the yard with me, take them walking without a leash,
they will do any command with no hesitation. And they don't
bark anymore! Thanks to your machine!

Oh yeah, I loaned your machine to several friends and family

-- Here are some reports:

"I would say my dogs are well trained, but they suffer severe
anxiety when no body is home. This machine quietened them
almost instantly - still they barked, in the beginning, but
just one or two barks. Then slowly they just stopped...
beginning to bark, then instantly stopping.

It took only 2 weeks, and we did nothing.

Truly amazing;

I have recommomeded it to my family, and perhaps they will buy
one. Its a shame you don't sell them publicly". -- Kylie, 30,
on dogs Lili (11 yr mutt bitch) and Sheeba (4 yr Rotty X)

"My two dogs barked insanely when someone would go
past. With this little machine they quietened right down,
and even became partly obedient, and we did nothing!

Great stuff.

We ran it only on the lowest setting, too!" - Ed, 65, on his
two male Dobermans, 5 yrs old.

Well I have some more, and am collecting more, but I only have
one machine so its a slow process. Once again I say thankyou
Jerry! My family was on the verge of giving them up! :(

But no longer :)

=====================

A non dog owner writes:
Dear Jerry-

I just wanted to let you know how wonderful your Doggy Do
Right product is. I was skeptical at first, but have been
tremendously pleased.

As you know, we had a neighbor's dog that was extremely
bothersome, at times barking loudly for 3 hours straight.
Within a few days, the barking decreased, and now it is
just the occasional bark. this dog lives approximately
500 feet away, and even at that distance, the machine has
done wonders.

You were always available and patient to answer my
questions, and now I can be in my own home without going
nuts from the barking. As an added pleasure, all the
other minor barking nuisances in the neighborhood have
stopped as well.

Quiet is wonderful! Thank you.

Pam Graves

===========================

> Wouldn't the inventor know what the frequency is (even
> though the device is just a scam to bilk out $$$ from poor
> unsuspecting folks)?

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6786-3C0E896C-19@storefull-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

Thanks Tricia9999, that was an interesting read! Course my little
gray box seems to be working... Buddy stopped biting the baby! No
negative side-effects seen occurring...not to the bird, the other bird
or
Zelda. ~misty

===========

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21047-3CAD0E8A-173@storefull-2291.public.lawson.webtv.net...
Jerry sent me the DDR when I mentioned my cockatoo was stressed
out by
my then just learning to walk baby.

Buddy was screaming day and night..lunging at Joey whenever he
crawled
up to Buddy's cage and nipping the baby ( if Buddy wanted to his
beak
is powerful enough to sever an adult's finger in one snap!)

At first we noticed nothing... after a few days ..nothing..nothing
except quiet :-)

That's not to say Buddy never screams.. heh.. he'a a 'Too.. but
the
late night scream-a-thons ended.

He also tolerates Joey playing in his water dish <sigh> just what
I
want...2 splashers! Buddy loves to bathe in his water until
there's
more water on the floor and walls than in his dish :-)

Twice now Buddy has had marathon scream-a-thons... for a few days
each time. It takes that long for me to realize the DDR is
unplugged :-O
Once cos DH did some maintenance and forgot to plug it back in (
of
course he remembered to plug the washing machine back in ;-P)

The second time I had unplugged it while sweeping...and forgot to
plug it back in...

We sure enjoy him being such a good bird! He's been so loving to
everyone... my older 2 boys love being able to give him scritches
again.

~misty

(No, Jerry, you can't have the DDR back just yet! :-)

===================

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:1199-3BD34D6A-229@storefull-235.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I have a very
loud cockatoo who has been having problems adjusting to my 8
month old son.

Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy's cage as a hold on
for dear life object.

Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older two boys
went through this stage in a different house where Buddy had his own
room and the boys had only visits, not daily contact 24/7.

Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has been driving
him nuts! He showed his disapproval by non-stop screaming. A
cockatoo scream can be heard a block away with all the widows
shut <g> being in the house it makes your ears pop and your nerves
crawl.

Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to use it.
He answered my questions quite politely.
I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is located~
teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks.

At first I noticed no difference in Buddy's behavior. Then I realized
after a week that he no longer screamed for hours on end. This isn't
to say he stopped completely <bg> he still demands his share of all
meals. But he doesn't start screaming at 10 pm when he wants
_everyone_ to go to bed.

Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My nerves were
frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per Jerry's instructions.

I discovered the DDR was shut off! I turned it back on and left it on
the lowest setting. Buddy calmed back down and quit screaming.
In the time that I've had the DDR on I've had a lot of c*ts come to my
house. One I adopted and he's quite the sweetie. He's a yellow tiger
named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who is very friendly with my kids
and Zelda.

I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like the
methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like things that are
free. I also like the fact that I can e-mail him and get advice
whenever
I need it.

Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the DDR is
working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in electronics, knows
alot about radios and anything mechanical... he's a jack of all trades
around the house <g>). He does NDT for a living.

We don't expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey is walking,
Buddy will realize that he's not a strange animal.. some kind of
furless dog or c*t <bg>.

So, yes, there are some of us out here who do appreciate Jerry's
methods if not his condemnation of other "regulars". Honey, flies
that sort of thing....
~misty

> > > who is 15 months old,
> >
> > Any three week old puppy got all the brains he needs to
> > HOWEtwit the cunning of the professinal domestic puppy
> > dog trainer or university trained behaviorist.
>
> Yeah - we've heard this over and over, and you are still wrong.
> Do you just like being wrong ALL the time?

From: Momi...@webtv.net (misty)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Beth wrote:
> So, jerry's techniques didnt' work for Peach?

Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still
using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.

The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home were:
build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan on putting
a modular home here within the next few years... put more
fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs could play
bitey face w/o tangling, and similar suggestions.

Jerry was the only one to mention border training... but he
was kook supreme ;-P So I ignored him... no killfiles with
webtv.. at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like
Candace, so the group was not very conducive to learning anything.

At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.

By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had already ran away.

Not very good at the google groups search but you'll find my
first post at "runaway dog message 30" within that thread is
mention of the dogs taking off and being gone for 2 days. I
stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was devastated that
his dog was gone... Zelda came home but not her mom.

The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.

Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes, I put it
in my e-mail (no storage otherwise on webby unless you put
stuff on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.

Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it
on Zelda. It worked and I now have a great housedog!

I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to lose
another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with little
kids. I and my boys still miss her. Sometimes I still look
to see if she came home when we get back from trips. Maybe
Peach would still have ran away... I don't know and never will....

~misty

From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?

Peach would be there sittin pretty had our pals not given you a bum
steer cause they're EMBARRASSED and AFRAID of losing their careers
and reputations.... Jerry.

Stick around, we're just startin to have FUN learning and
sharing...J;~)

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news
16990-3CAB1F8...@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her
loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping
my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

=====================

misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.

Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come
back in the yard and would run for days.

The last time, Peach didn't come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train
my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.

She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
then you need to train your dog.

I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in
our yard again.

The price was too high:-( ~misty

--------------------------------

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:12208-3BB67479-427@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

Hi Cathy! Yes I used The Wits End Method to train my girl, Zelda.
You can check the archives and see I'm a real person.. I post in
misc.kids.breastfeeding, alt.cats rec.pets.cats.annecdotes( not
lately, my kitty died) rec.pets.dogs.behavior rec.pets.birds and
a ton of webtv firewalled ngs.

Zelda and her mom, Peach (RB) both loved to run the neighborhood
with my neighbors 2 male dogs. An e-fence couldn't keep them home,
chains pulled up and Peach could jump/climb a 5 ft. fence.

I wrote in here for advice and felt like Jerry had jumped down my
throat. Upon re-reading his post to me..well..it hit home hard
that I was being abusive to my dog.

The thought of shocking my dog ever again makes me want to puke.

Like I've said before... I might not like the way Jerry treats
some of the other posters but he gave me ( for _free_) a way to
teach myself and my dog.

I can let Zelda outside and not worry that a potty break will mean
she'll be gone for 2 days or, worse yet, not ever come home...like
her mom.

Zelda stopped chewing everything in sight once I started applying
Jerry's methods. One time of "bad slipper!" and she never chewed
another one up :-D

I don't post here a lot because I don't ave any problems needing
solved. I do join in occasionally or post informative lnks. I just
feel that my limited experience precludes me from jumping in every
thread <shrug> but I do read all of them.

If you want my phone number, e-mail me. We would have to set up a
time because I'm on the webbie a lot and we only have 1 phone line.

~misty

> Any questions, dummy?

Yeah. HOWE COME you CAN'T let your kids read The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Forums, pat?:

"I can't let my son read this newsgroup JUST BECAUSE OF YOU,
yet you are ANGRY at child abusers?!? You are a fucking idiot."

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHHAHAHHAHAAAAA!!!

HAPPY HOWELIDAYS~!

From: Robin Barr <robinba...@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:50:58 -0800

Subject: Re: HELP needed ASAP

In article <O31ud.13611$r72.108...@weber.videotron.net>,
regimbalm <regimb...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> MauiJNP wrote:
> > my dog tries to jump up on the table. he did it today when I wasn't there
> > and he ate my nephew's food. My sister was home, I wasn't. My mom
> > said if he does it again, he will have to find a new house. I believe her.
> > She will kick him (rather us as I will never get rid of him) out.
>
> > what should I do?
>
> > she I squirt him with water when he tries to jump on the chairs? I
> > don't want to have to smack him bottom or nose or something like that.
> > Should I feed him from the table so he is not so desparate to get up there?
> > or will that make it worse? right now, he NEVER gets anything from the
> > table. thanks for any help.
>
> why don't you tie him outside during the meals and if he try to go on
> the table do the same go tie him and verbally reprehend him . He needs
> to learn it's not ok to jump on table.
>
> I would also suggest you go a do basic obedience training you
> need to learn how to control your do,, good luck

I'm only jumping in on this thread now, so don't know if the Puppy
Wizard responded to the original poster with a link to his Wit's End
Dog
Training Manual, which he offers at no cost. Although you are correct
to say the dog needs to learn to not jump on the table, and your
suggestion would certainly contain the dog, I don't think it would
TEACH the dog very effectively or quickly.

The Puppy Wizard (Jerry) offers a very quick, kind and gentle way to
teach a dog anything, even eliminating separation anxiety and
allergies.
I hope the original poster sees this, and if you own a dog, perhaps you
might be interested in taking a look also. You'll find it's so much
quicker (and kinder, and gentler) than any other method.

The proof is in the pudding, right? Just give it a try. You've heard
the old
saying, you get more with honey than vinegar. If you do try this
method
and find it effective, please pass it on to other pet owners. You'll
be doing
a good deed. I'm planning to email it to my friends, relatives, and
business
associates who are pet owners as a Christmas or Chanukah gift.

And more, if you have any questions about the training method, or run
into difficulties, unlike the tone of many of the Puppy Wizard's posts
(aka the Grim Reaper), you'll find him extremely helpful, always
available, patient (yes, I said patient:) and kind (yes, I said kind:).

Here's the link:

<{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } >8< { ~ :{@}>


Robin

Subject: Starr's Stories

To whom it may concern,

My name is Crystal Arcidy

I am the proud owner of a beautiful 3 year
old white German Shepherd named Starr.

I am writing to inform you of a training method that is truly amazing.
Starr is by nature very cautious and fearful and because of this and
my not knowing how to handle it she became environmentally shy
as well.

Before Starr came into my life I never would
have believed that a dog could be the way
she was unless it had been badly abused or
trained to be aggressive.

Now I'm finding out more and more that there
are lots of dogs with serious behavior problems
who were never abused, but mishandled.

Before I tell you about my experience with
Jerry Howe, Doggy Do Right, and the Wits
End Dog Training Technique I would like to
relate to you Starr's story so you'll have a
better understanding as to what I was dealing
with:

Starr was three months old when I brought
her home from a local pet shop. A few days
later a friend came by to see her and that was
when I first saw that Starr was by no means friendly.

She was so shy she tried to pull away and hide.
I was told that dogs go through a "fear stage"
and thought that was all I was dealing with.

But after a week or two Starr began barking
protectively at guests and neighbors from
inside the house.

The only way I could stop the barking, and
later howling, was if I picked her up and
held her.

Outside Starr's behavior was not protective
it was horribly fearful. It got to the point that
when I would ask, "You want to go outside?"
Starr would run the other way and dodge me
so I would make her go.

She went out only to relieve herself and then
she'd dash back to the house. I could not take
her for walks and she wouldn't even sit on my
back deck without crying.

Starr was afraid of other dogs, people, cars,
loud noises, open spaces....everything. I was
sure that she had the potential of becoming
a fear biter and that worried me.

I spoke with an amateur dog trainer who said
that shepherd's are sometimes fearful as
puppies, especially females, and that training
and socializing would help.

She said I could bring Starr to the vet and
just sit with her so she could watch the other
dogs. But Starr was a nervous wreck in the vets.

She would get in a corner and shake terribly.
It didn't seem like it was helping at all with
my dog's anxiety and I asked the vet what
to do to get her over her fears.

The doctor recommended a trainer/behaviorist
and we called and set up a meeting. And so I
took Starr to her first trainer at six months old.

She was terrified. The trainer assured me that
he could 'get her through' her fears. He
explained to me how training would lessen
Starr's anxiety and build confidence.

Because Starr was so timid he wanted to
start out with clicker training. He said it was
the best form of training for shy dogs.

He instructed me to get a thin three foot
stick to be the focus, the object being Starr
would learn to follow the stick. Every time she
touched it with her nose she got a click and a treat.

After I got Starr home it only took about a
minute for Starr to get the idea. But these
results were restricted to inside my house.

When I took Starr outside or to her lessons
she was just too nervous to care about
eating. The reward was not worth it.

All Starr wanted was to get back to the house,
where she felt safe. When the trainer realized
that Starr was too uncomfortable at his place
he suggested we meet and work at my house.

It was then that he saw that Starr was not going
to progress using the clicker training. [Forcing
food into her mouth didn't make her want to eat
it] So he reverted to conventional methods.

*(The "BALANCED TRAINER" IOW, knows WHEN to HURT... jh.)

We started using a flat collar but with all the pulling
Starr would do the trainer quickly advised me to
purchase a choke chain. I did so and he showed
me how to use it.

I was very hesitant but he assured me that I
could not hurt the dog.

We continued working in an area Starr was
pretty comfortable in, then proceeded out to
the street. Starr was very scared and would
bolt, whine, shake horribly and grind her teeth.

All of which got corrected by a quick, sharp
jerk on the chain and a firm "No!"

Of course now I know that these firm
corrections were just creating more anxiety
for my dog. But at the time it seemed to
make sense.

After seeing how afraid Starr actually was
on the street the trainer told me to get some
Serene-um, an herbal product that would
calm her down. It took the edge off her fear,
but I had to give her beyond the dosage
recommended for her weight.

The trainer said that was fine. He also told
me that putting her on adult food would help.
That way she wouldn't have as much energy
that was just being turned into nervous energy
and making her worse.

I changed her food and he later recommended
senior food. I decided against that.

The trainer told me not to speak reassuringly when
Starr was scared because she would think she was
being praised for being afraid, that I wanted that behavior.

He told me never to praise her for barking because
it would encourage aggression.

When Starr would bark at the neighbors dog aggressively
I was to force her into a submissive down, the Alpha Rollover,
whichI was never able to maneuver.

I told the trainer that Starr was still
uncontrollable even with the choker.

Her fear seemed more important than the pain
she experienced from the collar. He suggested
getting her a Gentle Leader.

Its worn around the dog's head. I'm sure
you're familiar with the product. This gave
me more control over her bolting but when
she got spooked by something she would
pull away and reared up like a wild horse.

It was very difficult to get her to calm down
even a little after she had gone to this extreme.

I later found out that I was misdirected on
how to use the Gentle Leader.

After about seven months of this Starr had
made very little progress. She knew all the
commands and would do them perfect when
calm, but the fear and anxiety were still there
and still very much in control of her.

The trainer thought she was all right and told
me he was happy with the results. At that
point I was hardly listening to anything he said.
I knew he was trying to help but I also knew
that Starr was beyond him and I had already
set up a meeting with another trainer, one
that came highly recommended.

The second trainer referred to her place as
doggy boot camp and said that kind of
discipline and structure is what dogs,
especially dogs like Starr, really needed.

She was a breeder of German Shepherds
and several of her dogs were used in movies
and as therapy and protection dogs.

*(Our "ETHICAL" breeders... jh.)

She told me that Starr needed to get away
from me, her 'security blanket' and learn to
be on her own. She told me that when I got
Starr back she would be a totally different dog.

I left Starr for eleven days with this trainer.
When I went to pick her up I was informed
that Starr had been hiding for the first three
days of her stay. But the trainer was happy
with her progress.

When Starr was brought out I was told to
ignore her until the trainer said it was okay
and even then I couldn't pet her or kneel
down to see her. [I still don't know why.] My
formerly 65 lb. German Shepherd looked like
a Greyhound she was so thin.

But she did look much more confident. Her
face seemed relaxed, but her tail was tucked
up under her. When I asked about that the
trainer said it was nothing. She said her tail
was not suppose to curl up the way it did.

I was then informed that I needed to buy a
pinch collar and leather leash.

Starr was too strong and determined in her
pulling for me to get by with just the choker.
[ This trainer laughed at the Gentle Leader
and said it was not a training tool.]

The trainer showed me how to use the collar
and I flinched as she did and Starr let out a
sharp cry.

The trainer noticed my reaction and insisted
that she wasn't hurting my dog, saying that I
have to stop treating Starr like a 'piece of
china', saying that she was a strong dog
and needed to be told who was boss.

I accepted what she said and she proceeded
to teach me all that she had taught Starr.
She used the word 'Here' instead of 'Come'
saying that it sounded nicer to the dog and
more inviting. I was told that its best if when
called Starr comes right up close, attaining
physical contact.

Everything seemed to be going well, though
I wouldn't have said she seemed like a different
dog, until the trainer left to get Starr's old collar
for me.

When she returned Starr lunged and barked
aggressively. It took me completely by surprise.
I did not know why she was acting so aggressive.

The trainer took the leash and gave Starr a
strong reproof for that and explained to me
that some dogs [big nasty ones, she said]
acted like that when the owners came to get
them because they were afraid, on seeing
the trainer, that she would take them away
from their owners again.

This trainer also instructed me to 'punish'
Starr by ignoring her for a half hour or so
after she had been corrected for something
very bad or if she did not do good working
for me one day.

She said that dogs remember when they do
bad and that she'd learn to try harder to please
me.

So I took my skinny little shepherd home
and for two months worked with her every
day exactly as I was told.

Starr's anxiety was still profound and she
still was not happy to go for a walk or to
stay outside.

She was more confident, but only in areas
of aggression, territorialism, and being
possessive of me. [She did not like it when
my cat came into my room.]

I called the trainer to ask about barking
collars and she told me which one to buy.

After I got it she showed me how to use it
saying it must be tight. She said it would
help with Starr's aggression as well as the
barking. And for a while it was much quieter
in my house.

I did not like the way the collar sometimes
made Starr cry and I really didn't like how
if my two dogs were real close the other
dog's bark would sometimes set it off. But
it was only temporary, I thought. I always
checked for irritation on my dog's neck but
one day when I took the collar off I saw
that Starr had sores on her throat.

I kept the collar off until it was completely
healed and then used it only when I felt I
had to, and only on the lowest setting.

*(HOWE COME all these stories sound
alike??? jh.)

It wasn't long before I put it away and never
used it again. I made arrangements to bring
Starr back to her second trainer to work
together and in exchange I would help taking
care of the other dogs -cleaning and feeding
and such- but it never worked out and I am
so glad it didn't!

My next attempt to find help was after I read
a pamphlet on Ttouch. I thought, finally, this
will help! I spoke to the Ttouch practitioner
and set up an appointment. She came to the
house and evaluated Starr.

She told me it would most likely take many
sessions to get Starr over her issues. The
first thing she had me do was change from
the pinch collar to a flat collar the second
thing she had me do was put a T-shirt on
my dog.

She likened the feel of shirt to getting a hug.
Starr did seem to calm down when she was
wearing the T-shirt. Looking back I realize
that although Starr was calm she was far
from happy and relaxed.

I wanted to work outside, thinking it would be
easier on my dog since she got so upset when
people came into the house. But the Ttouch
lady insisted we work inside the house, saying
that she had to get used to people coming inside.

I went along with what she said, but after the
aggression brought out by the second trainer
and the pinch collar Starr was very difficult to
handle.

Next the Ttouch person showed me a few
different touches to do on Starr. She
demonstrated the touches on a large
stuffed animal I had because she couldn't
get close to Starr let alone to actually touch her.

She said that dogs keep all their stress in their
tail and I was instructed to do Ttouch on her
tail. She showed me what she called an ear
slide that would help with car- sickness and
it worked.

Then she talked a lot about calming signals,
yawning, sighing etc.... Starr was uncomfortable
with this strange way of petting and cried a lot,
but the lady informed me that was normal.

The touches are designed to change the
cellular memory and Starr knew that this
was not petting. It was a 'conscious touch'.

The weirdest thing was an effort to make
Starr aware of her body. She demonstrated
on the stuffed animal [she was still unable to
touch Starr] how to wrap ACE bandages around
the animal's body so that as they moved they
would feel it and be aware of themselves.

And then there was the hair elastics around
my dog's feet to give her a better awareness
of her feet because Starr was nervous walking
on hard,smooth floors.

To address the problem I was having with
Starr pulling on the leash the Ttouch person
instructed me to take the middle of my six
foot leash in my left hand and bring it up
above Starr's left shoulder, then place the
length of the leash real low across her chest
and bring the handle up above her right
shoulder and hold it in my right hand.

The plan was to keep her front legs from
being able to move fast enough to pull.
But Starr easily backed out of this
arrangement and took off, bolting to the
end of the lead.

I told the lady what was happening and
she recommended a harness.

After Starr was wrapped in bandages, wearing
a T-shirt, a muzzle and a harness we took her
out-side.

Starr was not happy. I was not happy. But
the Ttouch person said it would help so we
did it. After a month of this I gave up on
Ttouch and went back to the pinch collar
with which I had at least some control.

*(Sound typical, doesn't it... jh.)

I asked a friend to help simply by coming
over and trying to make friends with my dog.
I kept a muzzle on Starr most of the time
and eventually my friend got to pet her,
though Starr was not comfortable with it.

My friend suggested that I give Starr Passion Flower and I tried it.

*(An EXCELLENT sleep aid... jh.)

At this point I had already tried a number
of different herbs and herbal mixtures that
were especially for dogs.

The herbs didn't make enough of a difference
and I thought about putting her on Prozac or
something like it. I decided against it because
of fears of side affects and was back where I
started, except worse because Starr was now
showing signs of aggression after working with
that second trainer.

I found another dog training place this one
claimed to be the 'Disney World for dogs'.
I went down to talk to the people there
before putting Starr through it.

One of the trainers there told me that if my
dog was over two years old and still the
way she was then she'd be like that forever.

I was extremely discouraged by that, but I
wouldn't allow myself to believe it was true.

Needless to say Starr never went to those
trainers.

Ever since I realized that Starr was not a
normal dog I've been searching for a way
to help her get over her fears.

It became the most important thing to me.
I was sure that I would find answers and I
knew I couldn't give up. I knew I couldn't
live with her the way she was and I knew
I couldn't give her away so I just continued
searching.

I read training and behavior books one after
the other. Some were very discouraging in
what they had to say about shyness in dogs.

The last book I bought was called "Help For
Your Shy Dog" and it gave an example
of a dog in recovery from fear and anxiety
and it had taken the owner/trainer five years
to get to that point!

And the dog was still a work in progress!

When I first decided to try Mr. Howe's
machine I was hopeful if not confident.
I did not want to speak to him at first
because I did not want to hear what I
heard from the other trainers. I did not
want to trust another trainer only to be
disappointed in the end.

I found Doggy Do Right on-line at a friend's
house, got the information and decided to
give it a try. I noticed within a few days, if
that long, that Starr was calmer when the
machine was on.

Things would happen that would normally
upset her and she'd give one or two barks
and then give up.

When I saw her acting calm I'd look over
at the machine and every time, at first, it
was on. After a little while of using the
machine along with the training technique
I'd check to see that the reason for her
self-controlled barking was that Doggy Do Right
was on and I was amazed to see that it wasn't.

I was like, "Wow, she's being so good and the
thing isn't even on!" The tiny part of my crazy
dog that had some self-control, or some
semblance of ease, was growing stronger.

The training and the machine were allowing
Starr to realize that not everything in the world
is going to kill her.

As far as the training technique, it's gentle,
fast, and completely positive.

Mr. Howe's approach to training is so different
from any other form of training that even after
reading his training manual I had to call and
speak with him in order to really understand
his method and the reasoning behind it and
how to apply it with particular situations with
Starr.

I had many questions and misconceptions
because of all the other training information
I got and he took time to explain everything.

He told me that all Starr's behavioral problems
were connected and that properly handling
each one would help the others.

All the little things that I was ignoring
because, in comparison to Starr's main
problems, they seemed irrelevant I started
working on, each thing she worked through
helped to deal with the next.

Mr. Howe was very helpful and after putting
a flat collar back on my dog and working with
her a few weeks I saw a change in her general
attitude. I was glad that I was not to use a food
treat with this system, knowing that if food was
the incentive it wasn't going to work for my dog.

Starr was much happier and relaxed without
the pinch collar and her barking was much
more controllable.

Starr, however was too difficult for me to
handle and I was not proficient at this new
form of training and I ended up taking her
to meet Mr. Howe and he worked with her.

I was surprised that Jerry was able to pet
my dog let alone work with her the first day.
For one week he had her and the change in
Starr was incredible!

She was happy and relaxed. She was willing
to work and she was much more comfortable
being around cars and people. We met on
three occasions during that week to work
together and I learned so much.

The first time we got together to work Starr
was much more content and happy. By the
end of the session Starr was willing to go
with Jerry in his car.

This impressed me because of what happened
when Starr thought the second trainer she had
was going to take her away from her family.

But she was comfortable with Jerry and the
reason for that was the way he treated her.
I was amazed while, on the last occasion
that we worked together, people walked by
my dog without upsetting her.

I was expecting her to bolt away but she
didn't. She was calm and confident as they
passed, which, for her, was a huge change.

The Wits' End Dog Training method is based
on distraction and praise. It focuses more on
the thought process than a dog following commands.

The dog psychology Jerry has figured out
and built his method around is amazing.

I learned from him how to handle the leash
in a way so as to keep my dog calm. He
explained that because of all Starr's past
experience with training she was always
afraid of being corrected.

Tension on the leash is what caused her
to spook so I now keep the leash nice
and slack.

He taught me how and when to praise in
order to encourage thought and instill
confidence and trust.

His technique using the sound distraction and
exuberant praise gave me the answer to the
endless barking and the cat-chasing and all
without stressing out my hyper-sensitive dog.

Starr is a much happier dog and she has so
much more confidence in herself and in me
as her handler.

I will never use any other form of dog training
on any dog I ever own/train.

Mr. Howe's approach to dog training has
ended up saving many mislabeled "bad
dogs," turning them into great pets and
working dogs.

I am recommending this and only this
form of training to anyone with dogs no
matter what it is they want to accomplish
with their dogs.

As you now know I have tried everything
I could find to help my extremely nervous,
but wonderful dog and this is the only thing
that has really made a difference in Starr's
behavior and her general attitude.

As a dog lover and the owner of a so-called
"lost cause dog" I feel I must share with you
my experiences and advocate this system.

There is nothing better for disturbed dogs
and no better way of preventing bad behavior
then positive, gentle training.

I will recommend nothing else and never
again will I use any other form of training,
discipline and behavior modification.

Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Crystal Arcidy

========================

Subject: letter about crate

Starry's Scary Night

Anyone reading this letter is familiar with
my white shepherd Starr and her problems
with fear and anxiety.

Starr has made a lot of progress since my
last letter and continues to make progress
almost daily.

For a while Starr was going through a
transition period where she was expecting
me to go back to the old ways of training
and discipline.

She would refuse to perform the
commands right and just not want to work.

With a ton of self-control I kept the
exercises simple during this time, spending
most of our training session doing the "hot
and cold exercise."

Starr soon bounced out of her unsure
sliding-back-and-forth stage and is stable
now.

The reason for this letter is to talk a
bout crates and the emotional state they
can put a dog in.

Only after I dealt with the crate situation
I'll be explaining was Starr able to make real
progress.

After that the back sliding mentioned above
was only a matter of time, patients and being
consistent.

First let me just say that I'm not saying
that you shouldn't use a crate. Only that you
make sure to use it right for the emotional state
of your dog.

Ever since Starr was a pup whenever I
left her alone I put her in her crate. If we had
company Starr went in her crate because she
was not friendly and would bark and hide.

Nights she also spent in her crate which
seemed like a retreat to her, a comfort zone.
But that false sense of security made the
world outside her crate seem all the more
scary.

Starr was unintentionally "taught" that
whenever something was unusual in the
house that she was to go to her "safe place"
and then everything would be all right.

The problem became evident when we
got Starr home afterher training in FL. Starr
was so much more confident in herself. But
her fear was triggered by all her past feelings
associated with her familiar surroundings.

Mr. Howe told me to expect Starr might
back-slide and to simply keep working her
until she came around.

I worked with my dog but at night I put
her in her crate. The next morning all the
work I had been through the day before,
and whatever progress she had made
seemed to have disappeared.

I spoke to Mr. Howe about what was
going on and he explained that the false
sense of security Starr got from the crate
was making her fear the outside world.

When she got in the crate she felt safe,
after all that was where I put her whenever
something was unstable [if I left, company
etc..] When she came out she was leaving
behind that security.

At first I was going to try to recondition
her to being in the crate but I was so afraid
of all the training and confidence she got in
FL being lost that I decided to just stop using
the crate. So I left her in my bed room instead.

She was not comfortable with this at first.
It seemed like she felt she didn't know where
she belonged and that made her anxious.

But using the "surrogate toy" technique and
sound distraction and praise cured her of this
anxiety in less then a half hour.

Now Starr is comfortable and content to
hang out alone in my room. She's not emotionally
confined to just my bed or to her doggy bed and
she is not at all destructive.

I am lucky that Starr's separation anxiety
was never expressed in messing or chewing,
though once she took my violin shoulder rest
from my closet and kept it with her on my bed.

She did, however tip over my waste basket twice.
Both times I addressed the expression as it says in
Jerry's manual and that's no longer a problem.

Crystal Arcidy

=======================

Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:27 PM
some good news :^) -kinda long though

Hi Jerry,

I've been really focusing on using the sound
when Starry breaks the heel and its amazing
how it calms her down.

She's gained so much self control from it.

I wanted to tell you of some of her latest triumphs.

Last week my car died while I was out and
while we waited for my dad Starr had a good
and unplanned training session. First she
saw fellow GSD, barked and settled after I
praised then made a sound distraction and
more praise.

The next time she saw that dog she
did not bark! I was very surprised.

Then she saw another dog and it worked
the same way as with the GSD. I told her "its
friends good girl" and she allowed a person
to walk very close to my car without barking
or [more importantly] getting nervous.

The other day, while I was working with
Starr a small child went by us slowly on a
little bike about 7-10 ft from us [Starr between
the child and me and heeling perfectly].

I said it was friends and Starr was completely
cool with it, didn't flinch or even look on the
child cautiously. Then the mother came up,
again I assured Starr that it was a friend.

As soon as the woman was parallel with
us she stopped, put her hands to her face
and called loudly to the kid. Starr looked over
with a hint of caution and I made a distraction
and praise and she relaxed and continued
walking with me.

Later I was standing by my car. Starr was
not on command. Two people were walking
toward us. I put Starr in a sit stay, told her it
was friends and praised her as she calmly
watched the couple pass. They were about
the length of my car away from us.

I was in my car, about to leave when
the same couple went back the other way.
With Starr inside the car I expected her to
by a little protective of "her space" so I
readied a sound distraction and waited.

She saw them and laid down in the back seat
contentedly.

Last time we were working on heeling and
stays and a truck drove right up to us and
stopped leas then 10 ft away. I placed Starr in
a sit stay by my side, did the relaxation touches
and praised her. The man was talking to me
about Starr [the common question "is that a
white shepherd? I've never seen one before!"

Then his all black shepherd started barking
at Starr. At first she was a bit nervous, I saw it
in her face and I snapped my fingers and praised,
and said it was friends. She calmed down and
remained in the sit position.

I was so proud!

They truck drove off and I asked Starr to heel
then released her.

I was so nervous about working her around
people not long ago. Mostly afraid that I would
mess her up. And this summer has been tough
and busy because of other things so that I
wasn't able to give Starr my full attention. But
she's really making progress fast.

I'm training her not to enter into my car until
I say and not to get out of the car until I say. I
think and hope this will lessen the anxiety she
feels about getting out in a new or "scary" place.
I'll let You know how she does with it.

Crystal Arcidy

=======================

Here's another update on Starr's Story:

From: Crystal
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:39 PM
Subject: (no subject)

I love to play the piano. The problem was
that Starr, my white GSD got impatient and
didnt like all my attention being on something else.

When I'd play for more then 20 minutes without
stopping she'd pace around the room and whine.

She'd look straight at me whining loudly, wagging
her tail and sometimes stomping her feet.

I mentioned it to Jerry and he told me how to
handle it. What I had to do was break her 20 minutes
tolerance time just before it was up in order to restart
her clock.

I started playing and played for about
18 minutes then stopped, closed the book
and the cover for the keys, walked across
the room busied myself for just a moment
before returning to the piano, opening the
cover and a book and starting to play again.

Starr watched me as I did this. She was
distracted from her set time limits, but she
didn't know that my actions had anything
to do with her, which is good since in this
case the whining was an attention getting
device.

And so she stayed in the room with me,
comfortable and relaxed, not concerned with
the fact that she wasn't getting any attention.

15 minutes later I got up and walked away
from the piano. I took a book from the shelf
and went back to sit at my piano.

Starr again watched me until I started playing.
I played for a few minutes longer then stood and
turned my attention to my dog and asked if she
wanted to come with me as I left the room.

I planned to do this exercise a few more
times over the next coupleof days but there
was no need.

As of yet Starr has not returned to whining
and pacing. She simply lays down or watches
out the window while I practice, and happy to
get attention when I turn to her or when I'm done.

I'd like to note that a while ago, before we
found the Wits' End Training Method, if Starr
heard the piano from another room she would
whine or bark to get me to come back.

It seemed to cause her anxiety to hear the
piano and know that I was going to be away
from her for as long as she heard it. But she
was uncomfortable in the room where the
piano is because it was formerly off limits to
her while she was being house broken.

Even though she has been allowed in the
room for a long time she was never content
being in there for long.

Now if she hears the piano and she's not
in the room with me she comes and finds me,
says hi with a kiss, wagging tail and happy face
then makes herself comfortable as I play.

The above problem may seem small but its
another way in which Starr has grown calmer
which is great and I can play my music without
Starr singing in the background which made it
hard to concentrate.

Crystal Arcidy


U*@yahoo.com
2005-12-26 20:49:43 EST

T*d@Mail.Com wrote:
> HOWEDY pat,
>
> unsurreality_2005@yahoo.com wrote:
> > A Poor Shepherd Boy And His Dog At His Masters Feet wrote:
> > > HOWEDY Ben,
> > >
> > > WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
> > > NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
> > > Training Method Manual Forums. I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing
> > > Puppy Wizard.
> >
> > It's STILL not your forum,
>
> The heel it AIN'T, pat <{); ~ ) >

Provide documentation that this is YOUR forum, and I'll shut up,
AssHowe. How about that, Ace?

>
> > > so, continue your lies as usual...
>
> CITES PLEASE?

Here's what you do - google for any post you've ever written and you
have the "cites."


>
> > > Here's your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
> > > CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
> > > Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual:
> >
> > It's a piece of crap,
>
> On accHOWENT of it doesn't teach folks to jerk
> and choke their dogs on pronged spiked pinch
> choke collars like HOWE you prefer, pat?

Wrong YET again! On ACCOUNT that it's a total piece of garbage! Get
SOMETHING RIGHT *sometime*!

>
> > but if people want to kill their dogs, I'd highly
> > reccommend getting it.
>
> INDEED? HOWE COME you WANT folks to HURT
> and INTIMIDATE their dogs like HOWE you do your
> own dog, pat?

Tell me ONE POST where I said I WANT PEOPLE TO HURT AND INTIMIDATE
THEIR DOGS. Again, your ignorance is BLAZING as I do NOT do that to my
dogs. Stop the lying already, AssHowe!!!!!!!! You are the BIGGEST
liar I've EVER come across!


T*@Mail.Com
2005-12-26 21:53:05 EST
HOWEDY pat,

unsurreality_2005@yahoo.com wrote:
> TheAmazingPuppyWizard@Mail.Com wrote:
> > HOWEDY pat,
> >
> > unsurreality_2005@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > A Poor Shepherd Boy And His Dog At His Masters Feet wrote:
> > > > HOWEDY Ben,
> > > >
> > > > WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
> > > > NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
> > > > Training Method Manual Forums. I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing
> > > > Puppy Wizard.
> > >
> > > It's STILL not your forum,
> >
> > The heel it AIN'T, pat <{); ~ ) >
>
> Provide documentation that this is YOUR forum,

Just look arHOWEND, pat <{); ~ ) >

> and I'll shut up,

Naaah. The Amazing Puppy Wizard NEEDS chumps like you.

> AssHowe.

The ONLY thing that makes Jerry Howe The Amazing Puppy
Wizard ANGRY is ANIMAL and CHILD abusers, Benny.

"But it's just FINE for you to abuse PEOPLE, huh?

I can't let my son read this newsgroup JUST BECAUSE
OF YOU, yet you are ANGRY at child abusers?!?

You are a fucking idiot."

That's you, pat.

> > > > so, continue your lies as usual...
> >
> > CITES PLEASE?
>
> Here's what you do - google for any post you've
> ever written and you have the "cites."

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

> > > > Here's your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
> > > > CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
> > > > Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual:
> > >
> > > It's a piece of crap,
> >
> > On accHOWENT of it doesn't teach folks to jerk
> > and choke their dogs on pronged spiked pinch
> > choke collars like HOWE you prefer, pat?
>
> Wrong YET again!

"But it's just FINE for you to abuse PEOPLE, huh?
I can't let my son read this newsgroup JUST BECAUSE
OF YOU, yet you are ANGRY at child abusers?!? You
are a fucking idiot."

That's you, pat.

> On ACCOUNT that it's a total piece of garbage!

On accHOWENT of it makes you HOWET to be an abuser, pat?

> Get SOMETHING RIGHT *sometime*!

You tell us?

> > > but if people want to kill their dogs, I'd highly
> > > reccommend getting it.
> >
> > INDEED? HOWE COME you WANT folks to HURT
> > and INTIMIDATE their dogs like HOWE you do your
> > own dog, pat?
>
> Tell me ONE POST where I said I WANT PEOPLE TO HURT
> AND INTIMIDATE THEIR DOGS.

THAT'S your only motive.

> Again, your ignorance is BLAZING as I do NOT do
> that to my dogs.

You mean CHOKE THEM? Naaah. You woudln't do THAT.

> Stop the lying already, AssHowe!!!!!!!!

Looks like you're havin a PSYCHOTIC REACTION, pat.

> You are the BIGGEST liar I've EVER come across!

You're a very derranged person, pat:

"But it's just FINE for you to abuse PEOPLE, huh? I can't
let my son read this newsgroup JUST BECAUSE OF YOU, yet you
are ANGRY at child abusers?!? You are a fucking idiot."


From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
<*.@mindspring.com>

To: <pdd-aspy...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?

How does diagnosis shape treatment?

Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe,
whopublicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry
is a master at behavioral modification of dogs.

His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last
student, the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of
Ohio (at Oxford,O).

Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for
you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away
from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave
him TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very
carefully, over again.

Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused
training is immoral. I've watched him in one short
session calm impossible dogs, just about to be
murdered (oops "put to sleep") because of their
"incorrigibly" violent behavior.

Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine
to hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for
hyperactive dogs); but he never lost sight of the
fundamental reality that a dog is not a human, but
does respond, doggily, to dog love.

You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's
"Cumulative Record" and read the essay by Breland and
Breland, "The Misbehavior of Organisms".

Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the
trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the
individual's developmental history, and the
environmental niche of the animal being trained.

Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book.
Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal.

<snip Dr. Von>

Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual
history, and the nature of he disorder.

Dr. Von

PS if you are interested in dogs, then take a look at
Jerry's work, ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net


From: AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaborat...@HushMail.Com
Date: 27 Aug 2005 17:21:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Biting Legs [ninnyboy] [jerry] [asshowe] [howetard]

HOWEDY pat,

Unsurreality wrote:
> AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaborat...@HushMail.Com wrote:
> > HOWEDY pat,

> > Unsurreality wrote:

> > > > Of curse, if you're a PARENT you CANNOT approve
> > > > of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
> > > > NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
> > > > Dog Training Method Manual or your friends
> > > > relatives and KIDS will ASK HOWE COME mommy and
> > > > daddy treats the DOG better than their children.

> > > You know, you are likely the most
> > > unintelligent person I've ever come across,

> > No, pat. It's the INFORMATION which OFFENDS you.

> No, HoweTard - it's the MISinformation you
> spew that OFFENDS me.

Looks like you're just bein SENSITIVE, pat.

> > > but this takes the cake.

> > Well pat, just look up the posted case
> > histories of the dog lovers here who are
> > parents and you'll see folks like yourself
> > who teach us HOWE to pupperly jerk and choke
> > dogs and likeWIZE raised their children under
> > duress and bribery.

> Here's your entire problem, HoweTard: a few corrections

You mean a little jerking and choking on
your pronged spiked pinch choke collar.

> to make a dog do what is needed

You mean to hurt and intimidate IT, pat.

> is certainly NOT abuse,

All depends on HOWE Sadistic you are, pat.

> yet YOU think it is.

Not only THAT, it DON'T WORK, pat:

Subject: Dr. George VonHilshimer Writes:

"No Loving, No Learning."

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop

> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop
> > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
> > > > > all the time, would send up "red flag" to you
> > > > > and others, but the fact remains, if a technique
> > > > > *doesn't* work 100% of the time, with all dogs,
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.

> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.

> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that leap.
> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.
>
> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:

Dr. Von writes:

Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.

> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.

This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.

Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;

Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;

Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;

The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;

Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately
turned off .

There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.

I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.

NO PUNISHMENT.

Must pay attention to who is the animal?

His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.

I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than the
methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.

Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.

Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.

You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.

Fondly, Dr. Von

-------------------

> Well, how about if I thought you stepping on an ant was abuse?

It IS, pat.

> You killed it, didn't you?

Only for a lack of higher intellect, pat.

> You were a malicious bastard for killing that ant,

INDEEDY.

> animal abuser!!!

That's correct, pat.

> > > You really need to take your snake oil and
> > > bullshit "manual" and "teachings" on the
> > > road with some circus sideshow -

> > We're fixin to, pat. The HAMMER is about to drop.

> NO, it's NOT!

Don't look up, pat.

> You've said that for 6 or 7 YEARS!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has INVESTED 45 years,
pat. A little more AIN'T NO PROBLEM, pat.

> If it IS, (which it isn't), I BEG you to make
> me the first lawsuit.

You're PROTECTED by law, pat.

> I BEG YOU.

You're very sick, pat, that's HOWE COME the LAW protects you.

> > > and do it all "stark ravin nekkid",

> > Not for that SHOWE, pat. The Amazing Puppy
> > Wizard will be fully clothed and cloched in
> > Wizard cap and GHOWEN <{#) ; ~ ) >

> God you sound so ignorant...

You mean because I don't know HOWE to jerk and
choke a dog to make IT wanna walk down the street
with you, pat?

> > > because that's where it belongs.

> > INDEEDY, pat.

> > > Take Lucy with you while you are at it..

> > Lucy SCARES you, pat?

> NO one here SCARES ME.

ONLY animal abusers cowards liars and mental cases
post here, pat. You're a dog abuser, pat. ONLY COWARDS
abuse defenseless critters and children, pat.

> Think what you want in your little imaginitive world.

It's all FACT, pat.

> > > or Chicken Soup Mikey...

> > Naturally Soup SCARES you, pat. He'll tell
> > you the same same same same, pat.

> Well, of course he will - he's your boyfriend.
> He doesn't scare me in the least, though, HoweTard.
> Nor do you, HoweTard.

Looks like you're HUMILIATED, pat.

> > > what a freak show it would be!

> > We already GOT a FREAK SHOWE, pat.

> Yes...YOU!

You should go back to askin pertinent questions, pat.

> > > I'd pay a good $2.50 to see that!

> > You won't be able to miss it FOR FREE, pat,
> > it'll be headline news for MONTHS, pat.

> No it won't, HoweTard.

Would you BET YOUR LIFE on it, pat?

> > > Idiot.

> > WHO MURDERED Jessica Lundren and them three
> > boys in the trunk of the car in N.J., pat?

> I don't know, HoweTard. DO YOU?

INDEEDY. You'll be seein it on HEADLINE NEWS, pat.

> <Snip shit>

Have a mentally heelthy day, pat.

The Amazing Pussy Wizard <{@) ; ~ ) >

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
news:

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."

*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!

Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

================================

From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

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