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Andy Leavens
2005-08-19 08:35:42 EST
How do you stop a 6 week old puppy from whining?


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Michael A. Ball
2005-08-19 15:39:50 EST
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:35:42 -0400, "Andy Leavens" <andy@dovescom.com>
wrote:

>How do you stop a 6 week old puppy from whining?

Put it back where it belongs, with its mother and siblings, for at least
two more weeks. Then bring it home and lavish it with attention, and
standard crate training.

http://www.inch.com/~dogs/cratetraining.html

http://www.perfectpaws.com/crt.html

http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/cratetraining.htm

http://www.doglogic.com/cratetrain.htm

Whatever it takes.

~shady Angel~
2005-10-08 07:38:15 EST
Andy Leavens wrote:
> How do you stop a 6 week old puppy from whining?

Attention, lots of it or a play mate maybee?
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Caroline
2005-10-10 05:43:20 EST
"Andy Leavens" <andy@dovescom.com> wrote

> How do you stop a 6 week old puppy from whining?

Return it to its mother!



A Poor Shepherd Boy And His Dog
2005-10-12 10:48:27 EST
HOWEDY caroline,

caroline wrote:
> "Andy Leavens" <andy@dovescom.com> wrote
>
> > How do you stop a 6 week old puppy from whining?
>
> Return it to its mother!

Sorry caroline, you're full of malarkey.

Puppys crying is a SYMPTOM of SUMPTHIN WRONG,
that USUALLY being that they're LOCKED IN A
BOX and deprived of food water toilet affection
and attention, not that they're separated from
their mumzie who wants nothin to do with them
as they're weaned at five weeks of age, you
ignorant simpleton.

Scott & Fuller, the most respected researchers on
dog and behavior and The Amazing Puppy Wizard agree
that pups should be taken from their litter at six
weeks and the 8th week should have NO stress such
as veterinary treatments or TRAINsportation or any
change whatsoever as that is a developemental stage.

The IDIOTS who recommend 8 weeks is the correct age
for takin a pup from the litter sez so on the MISTAKEN
NOTION that because the U.S. Department of Agriculture
restricts INTERSTATE SHIPPING till 8 weeks of age is
that they're doing so for puporses other than to protect
the lives of pups IN TRAINSI ONLY.

You're an ignorant know nuthin blowhard, caroline:

From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:14:27 +0100
Subject: Re: OT - URGENT STOLEN DOG - HELP PLEASE!

"Ruettiger Petra" wrote

> my god, how dreadful. Can't help but will keep
> fingers crossed for Cody's safe return ...

> Caroline, could you suggest a nice doggie newsgroup -
> with the imminent arrival of Idefix on Tuesday I may
> need some help ...

rec.pets.dogs.misc
rec.pets.dogs.behaviour
rec.pets.dogs.breeds
rec.pets.dogs.activities

That should keep you busy for a day or two....

Word of warning, if/when you come across The Puppy Wizard
its advisable to just killfile him, there is absolutely no
point reasoning with him. Its standard practice to advise
new subscribers to just kilfile him for some peace.

If you want any advice specific to JRTs, then please don't
hesitate to contact me, I breed and show them in my other
life (all IKC registered) so hopefully can answer any queries
you might have, or will be well placed to pass you onto to
someone who can. (Although I am away from home from today
until Thursday...but checking emails will be the second thing
I do when I get home) caroline_cooraclevin AT iolfree DOT ie

If you want a JRT specific forum you can visit www.swedishjrt.com
(Its very European, I seem to be the only European member not living
on mainland Europe) with a splashing of Aussies too.

Its a private forum, and very friendly. Mainly biased towards
breeding and showing (they are a recognised breed in most kennel
club organisations across the world - just not in the UK), but
also a great place for breed-specific advice.

Cheers

Caroline (the one in Ireland)

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Now I'm gonna use YOUR OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY to
thrash bash and trash you, you miserable dog abusin
punk thug coward hoodlum:

>From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
>Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:18:16 -0000

>Subject: OK, this has me beat...suggestions welcome

> I'm currently fostering a 5 month rescue puppy (large
> breed cross breed) I've had this puppy 2 months, and
> I'm making absolutely no headway with housetraining her.

BWEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE at four weeks, caroline.
ONLY a DOG ABUSER can FHOWEL Mother Nature's NATURAL
HOWEsbreakin plan.

> Here's the problem....she has always appeared to think
> that her crate is the place to go...and I don't mean
> for sleeping.

Dogs GET HOWEsbreakin problems from bein
locked in boxes and denied food water
toilet area attention affection and ignored
when they CRY, caroline.

THAT'S HOWE COME dogs get SEIZURES and other
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES aka The
Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME like CHRONIC INCURABLE
RINGWORM, carolin, you dog abusing mental case.

> So obviously the crate-training' ideas are seemingly
> irrelevant as she has no concept of keeping her bed
> clean.

When ignoramuses like you lock dogs in boxes and
IGNORE their cries they have PAINICK ATTACKS which
FORCE the dog to evacuate and vomit, caroline.

Locking the successfully "crate trained" dog in
a box teaches them that their BOX is their HOWES
and YOUR HOWES is their doGgamened TOILET.

> I'm changing her bedding upward of 6 times a day

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

HOWEsbreakin problems can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY

> and spraying the base tray of the crate with Pet
> fresh, so there's no residual smell in there.

That's SHEER IDIOCY, caroline. Dogs DO NOT MARK
over their own spots, caroline. FurtherMOORE, it's
HUGELY DHOWETFUL that any enzymatic cleaner is
gonna take the scent of urine and feces HOWETA
the environment sufficiently to hide it from a
DOG.

> The crate door is open all day long. In fact
> its only ever closed at night (11pm to 6am) or
> if I go out during the day (I work from home
> so this is rare...and if I'm out for more than
> an hour I drop her off to the OH so he can amuse
> her at work)

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

> She goes outside, and receives mucho praise for this...
> but she also go inside, and is not bothered by this.
> My way of dealing with the *daily* indoors accidents...
> and by this I mean the house and not the crate (I'll get
> to the crate later)...is to verbally scold if I catch her
> in the act and clean up straight away, and if I find a
> 'present' (be it solid or liquid) somewhere after the act,
> then I just clean up as normal.

THAT'S HOWE COME YOU CAN'T HOWEsbreak your dog, you dog
abusing punk thug coward mental case hoodlum:



From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
>
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike



From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

===================

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):


I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.

AIMEE


> Now for the crate....she will willingly go into
> the crate (door open) to wee or poo. I should
> reiterate, she'll actually make the effort to
> *go in to* the crate to do this,

She's TRYIN to TELL YOU SUMPTHIN you ignoramus.

> and then come back out of the crate when she's
> finished. To add insult to injury if I'm not
> quick enough she'll eat the poo..

Coprophagia is CAUSED by PUNISHING dogs for
HOWEsbreakin accidents, you dog abusing mental
case.

> She'll hide 'nuggets' in her bedding, so she
> can have a feast when I'm not looking.

No, she HIDES them so YOU WON'T PUNISH HER.

> if she has an 'accident' outside the crate, she'll
> pick up the solids and take them back to her crate
> for a snack...

She's TRYING to HIDE THE EVIDENCE so YOU DON'T
ABUSER HER somemore, you freakin imbecile.

> if she poos outside she's not interested in it,

Duh-Oh??? BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

> hooking up with her mates to play (I have 4
> other dogs) is more important, but indoor poo
> is manna from heaven.

THAT'S INSANE!

> She has done this since she arrived, so its not
> something she has learned since being here...

Because her FORMER ABUSERS abused her the same as you do.

> but I am stuck for ideas to break her of this habit.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!

> What can I do to teach her that her crate would be
> nicer for sleeping if she didn't pee and poo in it?....
> my theory being, if I can crack the crate problem,
> I can make more headway with the 'normal' housetraining.

You'll NEVER HOWEsbreak her if you continue
lockin IT in the doGgamend crate, caroline.

> I have honestly

BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHHAAA!!!

You've NEVER been HONEST in your life, caroline.

> never come up against this problem before,
> and I have had dogs all my life.

AS A BACKYARD PUPPYMILLER.

Your own dogs got SEIZURE from being punished
and crated and they're sufferin from STRESS
which is HOWE COME you got an INCURABLE CASE
of RINGWORM:

From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 19:35:00 -0000
Subject: Re: Canine epilepsy

"ex WGS Hamm" wrote
> Kip has had some massive grand mal fits recently.

Looks like no one has replied to you, so I'll jump in.

I have a mixed terrier who is also epileptic.

She's on 30mg Phenobarb (epiphen) and has been for the last 5 years.

Prior to medication the frequency of fits increased
over time from every 6 mnths to twice a week. She
hasn't had a seizure now in nearly three years!

YAY!

When she was first on mediation it took a while to get
the dose right....too high and she acted heavily sedated,
too low and she had breakthrough seizures. At first she
wasn't speyed, so the dose was increased to 45 mg during
her seasons as the hormonal changes used to trigger breakthrough
seizures.

After she was spayed she has stayed happily at 30mg.

We have the liver test done every 6 months without fail.
You could also discuss with your vet adding some milk
thistle as an occasional supplement...milk thistle can
do wonders for the liver. If your vet only wants to see
your dog every 3 or 6 months, then ask him/her to prescribe
that amount. However, I would imagine if the medication is
a new thing your vet might want to see your dog more frequently
initially.

I'm a member of this yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/
group/k9epilepsy/ and have found them invaluable for advice
and support. there are quite a few UK folks in the group,
but the majority are on the other side of the Atlantic.

This is a bonus often. If your dog has had a seizure in the
middle of the night and you need a virtual shoulder to cry on,
or some urgent advice, the time zones can mean someone will
often reply with a supportive message pretty quickly.

Has your vet mentioned anything about keeping an epilepsy diary?

Do so! its invaluable! Record all the info, date, time duration,
activity etc of each seizure, Write up a summary of each vet visit.

Note every change in Epiphen dose and your dog's reaction to
the change. Note down all her blood test results. We also take
our diary to the vet everytime she goes in for a check up/bloodworks
etc. If anything has happened since the last check-up the vet can
see your thoughts on it as it happened, rather than the faded memory
in your head.

Hope this is enough to keep you going for now.
If you have any more questions just shout ;o)


From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:34:26 +0100
Subject: Re: ringworm

"Gwen & John" wrote

> Yes, it has been diagnosed by the vet today,

Without wanting to have a willy-waving competition we
have a dog in the UK with ringworm who has been unsuccesfully
treated for over 18 months. It simply didn't respond to
anything that was thrown at it...and, believe me, everything
*was* thrown at it....a course of one particular treatment
was costing over £50 a *week* to administer.

She is 9 yrs old, so would also be considered elderly...on
top of the fact that she is epileptic and on daily Phenobarb
until the end of her days.

You'd be pretty irresponsible to other dog owners if it is
ringworm and you're walking him in other areas where other
dogs/animals are walking/exercising.

For the sake of my dogs' health I would also avoid you.
If it is ringworm then try and find quiet areas for walking...
ones where the chances of others dogs being walked there are
minimal.

No, I would recommend you stop brushing him, and soak all
his grooming equipment in the solution your vet will most
probably have recommended for soaking his food bowls, leads,
collars and bedding in etc.

On that note, if it is ringworm....if he has a leather collar,
soak it and then bin it. Invest in a nylon collar which can
be safely soaked and is machine-washable (I tie them into socks
for the washing machine).

Our dog is/was shaved all over regularly...if your ringworm is
persistant and shows no sign of disappearing i would recommend
this...sometimes the existence of a normal coat can serve to
continuously re-infect.

With regard to your earlier comment about him currently looking
shabby due to only having the areas affected clipped...with an
all over shave he would also look surprisingly neater, and won't
pull so many odd looks from passers-by.

We thought our girl would look awful shaved, but we're incredibly
suprised to find she looked gorgeous....we might just keep her
clipped because she looks so good.

Fortunately the last culture grown from a hair-pull for our girl
showed negative for ringworm, but now she has a skin complaint
due to her lowered immune system from all the strong medication
she has been receiving.

As such she's now on strong anti-histamines and other nice stuff...

Something which you might find interesting, if not useful, most
forms of ringowrm clear up of their own volition after a few nice
days of exposure to good old sunlight....in fact I believe in
agricultural circles it is rarely treated nowadays as it often
disappears on its own once the sun comes out in the sping/summer.

However, if you've a similar strain of ringworm to the one
we had then sunbathing with your dog probably won't help much.

I have some pictures of her at her worst...but I won't post a
link to them unless you're interested. Its not nice viewing,
especially as the ringworm was mainly on her face and muzzle.

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http://www.irishdogs.ie/Information/Wits_End_Dog_Training.pdf

From: "Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:22:03 GMT
Subject: Re: How to desensitize VERY sound sensitive dog?

Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm, was to praise
the dog after each clap of thunder, telling him he's
a Good Dog!

This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

The next time it thundered, he did not even react at
all--you could not tell it was the same dog as before.
There was more thunder just the other day, and same
thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no cowering, whimpering,
trying to hide at all, it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem to be
a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-abusive way
of handling dogs WORKS. Wonderfully. Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

==============================


From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.

A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================

Dave Cohen <coh...@total.net writes:
Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of his
business. I simply want to thank him publicly for one
of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry!

===================


"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

"Hoku Beltz" <h...@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message
news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10868114@twister.socal.rr.com...

Aloha Sunny,

Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how
insignificant some of the step seem to be and your puppy will
be a very well behaved dog in a few days.

I would seriously consider backing out of the training
classes as they will conflict with the Wit's End principles.

I went the training route first, and still had problems until
I found Wits' End. Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.

You won't be disappointed if you follow the program.

Good luck,
Hoku

==================

From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

From: Eric
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes. Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather
than beating ass or pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)... Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

==========================

"Zack Pellers" <ZackPell...@GUESSWHERE.cc>
wrote in message
d*.@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
6*.@posting.google.com:

Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.

Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com

You can start by downloading the free training
manual available on the site above. I used it on
my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro.

When I first brought him home from rescue, he
was similar to the way you decribed your dog.

After using Mr. Howe's training method, the dog
was cured within 72 hours.

-Jack

"Estel J. Hines" <ejhi...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com...

Until i read the Jerry method of Bark reductioon,
it went something like this with our 11 month old
puppy "Yoshi"

Yoshi: Bark, bark,

us: HUSH Youshi

Yoshi Bark, bark......................

us: Hush Youshi

Yoshi BARK, BARK, BARK, .................
it stopped when Yoshi got tired barking

We decided to try the Jerry method:

Yoshi: BARK, BARK

US: GOOD Yoshi, Good Boy, who is it?

Yoshi Bark, Bark

US: It's ok, good boy Yoshi, We know them.

Yosh without fail, now stops after we say that.

I must say, it is so much more fun, when we
can praise him, to deal with things like this.

Thanks Jerry

ps: We are just starting to go thru the Jerry
Papers, and learn how to live with our son
"Yoshi", whom we love very much.
--
Best Regards,

Estel J. Hines

==============

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

======================


b*.@gmail.com wrote:
> Well I am happy to reply that so far after 10
> minutes of work and the cans from mr Howes guide,

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> I have instilled the "come" command to Riley.

Good. You mean INSTALLED the come command as
a conditional reflex. Be SHORE to perform the
EXXXORCISES four times in each of four locations.

> He is an extremley smart dog, I have never had
> to go to the third or fourth try.


"Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com...

> Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.

Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
I took a rescued three year old beagle that
had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
even recognize or respond to its name to
Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
get real) and in just over one hour of working
with the dog, he was coming on command
(not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!

> and in all likelihood he's never even been near a dog.

Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him. You don't have
to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.

<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>

Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

-----------------------

To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog! Saw a dog
today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out
of him. Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting. I would
love to write a testimonial but can not seem to find
the site--please send the address--

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sunshine come goodboy.

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:52:30 -0500
Re: Puppy Wizard's Website

Hi Buzzsaw

Not a Thing to lose ...But a Lot To Gain!!

I can only speak from my experience.. I have a 8 month
old miniature poodle, and although I had done some basic
training with him we had a few barking issues ..ugh

I am happy to tell you, I contacted Jerry at the email
addy I posted and he was so great! I wasn't following
the technique precisely but he helped me get back on track.

Beau is doing sooooo well it is really a thrill working
with him, and seeing the remarkable changes.

Now I can ask for "recall" (come) both on and off lead
and it is immediate!

the first time I ask.

Best of Luck to you,

Remember if you need help or explanation contact Jerry ..
he will be more than happy to help anyway he can.

Cheers
Barb

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM
Hello.

I never posted here (or anywhere) before. I
never trained or owned a dog before this year.

I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.

Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.

I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.

I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.

A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.

We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he isvery eager to accept our love.

So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.

His method worked for us.

I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.

Florence
------------------------------------


"Brandy Kurtz" <KraftyKur...@wmconnect.com wrote in message

Well I just printed out the Amazing Puppy Wizard
info, so I haven't actually started to train yet.

Today a salesman knocked on the door, and Pokey was
going balisstic. I calmly go to the window to see
who it is, and off-handly say Good Boy, It's a
stranger, Good Boy. Pokey shut right up, gave me a
quizical look, and came and sat beside my feet!

OMG, I could not believe it!

I was totally floored, as this has been his behavior
since a pup. Just wanted to update, and Pokey and I
are hitting the sack...;)

Brandy


From: <BNTDO...@aol.com>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training

Hi Jerry,
Send the post to whom ever you wish to. Believe
me I will keep you updated. I got to tell you His
amazing progress almost makes me cry.
Kay Pierce

From: BNTDO...@aol.com
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training is:

Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my
side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay

========================

From: <BNTDO...@aol.com>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>

Cc: <HullCr...@aol.com>; <britp...@yahoo.com>;
<*.@thefelixfamily.com>;
<*.@hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter

Dear Jerry,

Just thought I would write to let you know how
well Hunter is doing. He had been trained using
the conventional methods for obedience. He had
gotten used to a choker and a pinch collar.

Alot of pain and a lot of jerking around. I had also
tried using positive reinforcement methods that I
had been trained in. He was so busy looking for
the treat that he didn't really want to work.

So I went back to using the pinch collar on him
and also a gentle leader when we were in public.
Slowly by degrees his behavior got worse and
he did deserve his reputation as a vicious dog.
The vet had recommended that he be put down.
I was in a panic when I found your web site.

Thanks! He is now the happy dog that I first
started out with 5 years ago. I am a professional
trainer and it was distressing to me that I could not
help my own dog. I had been told that some dogs
don't respond to any kind of training and that a
vicious dog can never be trusted again.

I disagree!

Hunter is a sight hound and now I can take him
with me and he doesn't chase cars as much
anymore which is one of his main problems.

We are working on the dog aggression thing.
And I am confident that will be successful too.
I also have your BIOSOUND machine and that
too is working good. I know of several rescue
groups that would benefit from it.

This is rather long I know but it comes from the
heart. My Head Hunter Green and I have together
along time and have been through so much together.

Thank you for helping me save his life.

Kay Pierce

========================

From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -

Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N
=========


Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOS...@no.umn.edu> wrote in message
Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg--


Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p...@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsend...@aol.com

Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.

My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.

When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.

I will write to Amanda about the video.

I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.

Thanks again
Paul

"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis...@­­chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The
F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good!

<snip>

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id 3.html
-- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fo ­­tografie/doggy-pictures/



"my grandchildren will never ever.. ever.. feel shame or
feel like they're not loved :)." Amanda.

> From: Amanda [mailto:ama...@dcfwatch.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Discipline

> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:47, T__ wrote:

> funny you bring this up... i met the most wonderful
> couple.. man and wife.. he's a dog trainer.. all his
> life who uses a technique that is ONLY praise and
> distraction with some family pack exercises.

> They spent the day with us sunday helping me on
> my two pits... one is a protective/aggressive 20 month
> old female who is my bubby > :) and our 7 week male
> pup. anyway.. not only did i nip any and all aggression
> issues in mere minutes...he and his wife helped me with
> my kids.

> I was and always have been a spanker. It is all i knew
> how.. i never, ever wanted to be.. but i was. my house/kids
> were out of control.. i was always stressed.

> Since he and his wife came down sunday we've had a
> HUGE change... for the first time the kids didn't destroy
> my house before i woke up... my 3yo was in my bed
> coloring waiting for us to wake up... this is the first time
> she ever used paper :) she usually does walls, furniture.

> Anyway.. he told me to use sound/praise.. and it works.
> I have a 6 yo, 3.5 yo who is psycho child :) and a very
> bad-a$$ 19 month old.

> They are all smarter than I am and know it :) There has
> not been a temper tantrum in two days in my house.

> You guys have no idea how great this is. But best of
> all.. this method does NOT use the evil eye or a tone
> of that is in any way short of absolute praise.. no shouting..
> not even a quiet Chloe!.. nada.. ONLY praise.

> They even taught my kids not to take candy unless i say
> so.. (my oldest will literally let you pierce her ears for
candy..
> it's been done twice and i keep taking em out) and now the
> bag of blow pops i forget on the floor in my closet (where we
> keep the girl's dresses) is still there and NO ONE has eaten
> one!

> My 3 yo is even helping me pick up the house.. the baby
> took my lingerie chest apart.. and she cleaned it up! first
> time!

> They don't even go out the open door without my offering it!
> they helped me sort laundry.. clean the living room... im
> amazed.

> The 3 yo got some yogurt from the fridge andwalked to our
> kitchen table, sat down and ate it.. she REFUSES to sit at
> the table and eat! We also taught them and the dogs to sit
> pretty so when they're climbing on my couch.. i go Can you
> show me how you sit pretty??

> and they ALL hop down and show me to sit pretty with their
> feet NOT on the cofee table.. hands friggin folded.. i almost
> fell over..

> thanks for reminding me to share my joy! I'm not a
> spanker! I don't even yell! lol! here i picked names
> that shout well and i don't need em!!!

> > how old is your bub amanda? waht's the bub doing?/

> > Hello again ladies,
> > Amanda, I love your signature. I also do not spank my
> > daughter, however, she is at an age where she really is
> > asserting her independence.

> > Can anyone help with ideas of what I can do? Blessings,
> > T.

Subject: Re Discipline. Also, SLEEP!
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:38:46 -0500
From: Amanda <ama...@dcfwatch.com>

> Can you go into this a little more? How did they
> accomplish all this in one day?

My learning is progressive. I email or call him with
questions. But, i'm getting most of it myself. Something
clicked.

How would we do it with our families?

that is kind of broad.. ask me specifics... or i'd still be
typing when your kids are in college ;)

> I really have problems controlling my temper when I am
> already stressed out and then C__ is hurting me:

Me too.. i was abused... my mom was psycho... and i had
problems with anger.. i took it personally when my 6 yr old
wouldn't clean her room...

i would sometimes cry is was so strung out.. i didn't wanna
spank but i didn't know what to do instead.. so i spanked..
and then spanking didn't work.. and then my dogs went nuts
and i called this trainer and he showed me how to do it.

pulling my hair, scratching me, slapping me, etc.

Mine hit me on purpose alot.. scratching.. climbing on me..
hurting me and then laughing.

Now as I post.. please don't think im trying to be a know it
all.. i simply wanna relay what i have learned... as it is i've
only been spank free for a week now and yell free for two
days (my neighbors two streets over are happy :)

Children, dogs, people.. they do thinks wrong because it
illicits your ultimate attention. Does your 3 year old enjoy
fingerpainting on walls? no... do they enjoy fighting the minute
you pick up the phone?? No.

They *know* they can command your attention.. and that's
what they want. same reason your dogs fight.. they think it
is controlling you.

Your kids want you watching their every move.. making sure
they eat.. dont talk to strangers.. because it means you are
watching THEM and not them watching you as it should be.

they should stay within x feet of you.. because they like
mom and she's cool and she keeps em safe... they
shouldn't run and expect you to chase them.. because
you won't always be there to chase them... that's how
kids die or get lost.

When they learn to follow you.. it's all good.

Now, take my 19 mo old. She had this habit of sipping 4 oz
from her bottle and demanding more. if i didn't refill it.. she
threw a hgue fit. Now she hands me her bottle and says more.. and
i tickle her...

then i pick up her bottle and pretend im drinking it.. i offer
her a drink and snatch it back saying MY Baba!! She wants
that bottle.. so she takes it and drinks it.. even tho i didn't
refill it. we had a huge problem with them taking things they
cant have and when i wanted it they ran... now i give the baby
(19mo) my finger.. and she grabs it.. and i wiggle and shout
My finger! that's mine! Gimme it back.. playfully.. and she
resists.. and i go "Ooh.. can i have it please?" and she gives
it to me and i gleefully say Thank you! and she says you're
welcome.. and i give her the finger back... then i hand her
say a lighter... and we wrestle for a minute.. and i say... can i
have that??? and she gives it over etc. Of course sometimes
she'll have a cool! book! and ill ask can i have that.. and shell
say No. and i say that's ok! and tickle her or snap my fingers
and say good girl naya.. good job..

then ill start my game again and wrestle and try to take it
gently... then.. can i have that??? she gives it over.

this works with everything now.

> Or when he's ripping up my homework or something like
> that.

Yea... with the dog training you hide nothing.. no forced
control. you set the dog up for fail.. so you can distract
and praise and erase the thought.. same with the kids.

Put some unimportant paper all over.. when he goes to
touch it.. make a sound and distract him.. then good
boy, that's a nice baby!... then repeat.. the minute he goes
for the paper and breaks the thgougth you throw him in the
air and praise like mad!

> How would I apply this in those situations? Also, what do
> you do in 'danger' situations (until you're close enough to
> distract them) - climbing on things, sticking metal objects
> into electrical outlets, trying to get into the oven, etc.?

Use your judgement.. if you have the distance/time to
distract... do it.. if you don't... pick them up and away..
but act like it's to throw em in the air.. so they don't know
youre forcing control by phsycially removing them... c

uz when you force control.. with the come command
when you want your dog away from something... or
when you pull a dirty shoe from your baby's mouth..
you put value on it.

Like when your kid puts a penny in its mouth.. youll try to
pry its mouth open to get it... and he'll clamp right down..
you gave that penny VALUE! it's not just a piece of crap..
mom WANTS IT!

so.. instead you make a game.. say you want em to smit it
out... walk somewhere else... attract their attention.. be
kinda sneaky... odds are the thing in their mought will get
annoying and they'll spit it out when they walk toward you...
if all else fails.. pry it outta their smiling jaws... snatch em
up away from falling down... but only when you have
to.. then work realy hard to overcome that forced control.

Also don't make a big deal about it.. or else theyll learn not
only to command your attention, but also mom will always
catch me so she is watching me.. not me watching her.

> I never realized how spirited C__ was until I started
> tending other kids.

those are my kids. I have had social workers with their
degrees in child development stop offering me services
cuz they couldn't handle my kids... my friends call mine
the obstinate kids.

> They're docile kittens compared to C__! This brings
> up another question - what do you do when YOUR
> child is the bully?

if you catch it before it happens.. loud sound.. big
distraction and PRAISE. if you catch it afterward...
distract and say oh my goodness! and pay attention
to the other kid... he wont get the attention... then
explain how that hurts. odds are your kid won't hurt
another kid if he truly understands its not nice.

> C__ is always beating the other boy over the head
> when he comes over. We don't hit in anger in our family

i have.. everyone does in my family... i did it a few times
over 4 years... but that is because i didn't know how not to.
i know now.. and i wanna tell everyone i can.. so someone
else doesn't spank their kids due to a lack of knowledge.

> (we do it playfully sometimes, so we are curtailing that
> in case it is giving him ideas)

my kids, 6yo, 3yo and 19 month old, favorite game is
chasing around the house (all 4 of us) with wooden
spools yelling at the top of our lungs "I'm gonna beat
your a$$.. HA HA HA... no IM gonna beat YOUR
a$$ MU HA HA HA" my neighbors prolly think im nuts..
but the kids love it dog even plays too

> but I admit that after I have been trying to get him to go
> to sleep for 45 minutes, I get a little rough sometimes.
> It's really frustrating. He'll be dead tired - eyes bright
> red, fussy, eyes almost closing every 5 seconds.

It gets worse... they all do it around that time.. they don't
want to sleep.. andyou know what? they don't grow out
of it until they're parents :) it's one of those times you
have to use your patience and keep distracting and praising.

> So I'll take him into the bedroom, and lay down to nurse
> him. He'll nurse for about 5 seconds and then jump up
> and run to the window and start bending the blinds.

he wants you upset.. he wants your undivided attention. you
have to refuse it.. no evil eye.. no "conner" quiet or not.. no
anger.. complete nonchalance.. they have to have a total complete
entire lack fo negative attention.. and all they'll
be able to do is sit back and enjoy the positive!

One shout.. one name call.. one No! and it takes awhile to
work up to the positive only.

> So I gently pick him up and lay him back down.

try not to.. but if you have to ok

> And we repeat the process over 10000 times.

when he goes to sit up.. when yous see the thought on his
face.. distract with sound and follow with praise or a song or
giggle.

> Then I get frustrated and lay him down less gently.

better than my method of plop em in the crib and let em cry.
No anger.. stay calm.. meditate, pray.. breath.. try to
remember they will not always be this small.. and youll
never, ever for anything get it back. it's what im using

> That makes him cry, which is the last straw that
> FINALLY gets him to nurse to sleep.

He got you riled up.. what he wanted.. time to sleep.

> Writing it out, I thought of something. He must have a
> lot of excess tension he needs to release before sleeping,
> and finally crying releases it for him.

no way... crying isn't a release.. sometimes.. maybe for
some people.. crying is frustration, pain, hunger, sadness...
sometimes joy.. sometimes tension.. but not because of his
life.. because he's insecure... their dealing with negative and
positive.. and thats what makes em insecure.

> Any good ways to do this that don't involve crying?

distraction and praise.. if all else fails get up and dance..
fast for day.. slow rocking at night.

> Turning on soft music and swaying in the sling used to
> work for us, but now he either grabs at everything he can
> reach or bends over backwards until he's hanging upside
> down.

cuzhe knows what you're doing. hold him instead.. or
sit him in your lap on the bed and rock

> Putting the sling over his shoulders to prevent that
> doesn't work either. He acts like he is being tortured
> and screams and fights to get out.

becuase it is forced control.

> Katie

Amanda
-----------------

From: Amanda@DCFWatch.com (Ama...@dcfwatch.com)

Subject: Re: we're so frigging happy and calm.. thank you
thank you thank you thank you thank you!

Re: [Jerry] Re: Please, discontinue discussions
with our dog abusers...NINNYBOY
Date: 2003-01-13 06:20:45 PST

> > Kelly jumped on thebed..

> For SHORE. We didn't finish her with that cause she
> didn't get up there while we were togethers. So now's
> your opportunity to D/P that next attempt.

Yup.. we did. She did get on it once in the middle of the
night.. but i woke up.. and did the d/p while walking out
of the room and outstanding praise when she complied.
She's got it :)

> Good. Now you got to catch her just startin to jump and
> you'll break that urge FAST.

That's tricky.. but we'll set it up today :)

> No. What scared her was her GUILT. She THOUGHT
> SHE WAS BAD. That's NOT GOOD. If your praise was
> RIGHT just after she "got scared,"

> you're in good shape cause she won't have anxiety over it.
> That will bear watching and be prepared to follow through
> with the ALTERNATE sound if she ever tries the high chair
> dining again...

She went to her spot.. under the kids bed.. and i did the
come/praise and she came right out and we did some
lovin... i think she's just all sorts of confused.. this is
brand new.. although familiar with d/p.. she's not used
to me GETTIN it PERFECT

> You could set up some food on the high chair and just
> break her of thinkin of taking ANYTHING unless it's
> given or dropped, and you DID say you don't want them
> scrambling for droppins from the kids till YOU are SHORE
> that's what you want WHOM to have WHAT.

We'll set that up today too. But i think she got it
yesterday.. lol.

> You should have a grasp of the intricacies.

I think i do.. do you think i do?

> Not bad for about fifteen minutes of feeding together and
> maybe eight D/P's, correct me if I'm wrong.

I was so nervous i wouldn't know. Not anymore :)

> Perhaps, but The Puppy Wizard likes to jump in with both
> feet..., unlike mike d, who's "a straight leg..." That's between

> The Puppy Wizard and hisself, he knows.

> BWWWAAAAHAJAJJAJAJAAA!!!

So let them approach eachother? i'm worried about a bite
getting in before i see the build up.. and im worried about
d/ping when there isn't going to be a bite.. make sense?

> > But.. naya grabbed some dog food from the pantry..

> That's the 3 y.o. daughter. I'm awful with names...

That's the baby.

> > and we found her feeding moo AND kelly side by side with
> > kelly cleaning up the crumbs under moo without problem.

> "Bless the Beast and the Children."

Lol... they're one and the same! lol

> Well, HOWE do you know THEY didn't take if from The
> Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
> Method manual???

> Everybody ELSE did, they're welcome, they shoulda
> asked permission, but it's OK, I'll get over it, like mikey sez:

It was the 19 month old.. so we'll work on them with that
today.

> "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh
> And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The
> First Few Times It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike
> duforth, author: "Courteous Canine."

Not in my house!

> The Puppy Wizard didn't follow the instructions. HE didn't
> spray in mikeys mouth first, to DEMON-STRAIGHT for him...
> Just did, HOWEver. NO PROBLEMO.

> > i caught jasmine yelling MOOOVE! and i nicely said
> > Jaaasmine... and she shouts GOOD GIRL CHLOE
> > GOOD GIRL! lol.

> Chloe is the 6yo child, I think.

CHloe is the 3yo.. jasmine is the 6yo

> > the kids sat down.. ate thier dinner..

> Like The Puppy Wizard's Kids all do.

Was a first in this house!

Dinner usually consists of me running around making sure
dinner is not on the walls and the baby isn't dive bombing
from her high chair!

> > Naya didn't climb from her high chair...

> Yeah, The Puppy Wizard has a tendency to calm folks and
> make them verry verry HAPPY or VERRRY VERRRY SADLY...

Nope.. we're calm and happy :)

> Day or two it'll be second nature to each of you

I think i'm getting there.. i felt by the last hour when i was
d/ping while you spoke i was getting it. like slow motion..
i could see everyone going for something and i was just
getting it all out in perfect timing... with the kids too.. by
the end of the night we had moo sleeping with kelly on
the floor.. first time ever.. we praised him out of howling..
and we actually slept great!

> > my timing is kicking ass too...

> WONS YOU GOT IT DOWN PAT, YOU WON'T
> NEED IT BUT RARELY.

i think we'll have it awhile.. certain things i wanna break..
running out the door.. front door... etc

> > i'm catching them in all the right places.

> INDEED. You'll break every area of concern and the
> pups will have EXXXCELLLENTE behavior in a couple
> HOWERS... maybe less.

Yup.. we set kelly up for the pizza delivery man last night.
she barked and we did sound/distraction... she left the front
door altogether when chris called her.. first time for that
too.

> Train them to WON spot for a few days then send them off
> lead and direct them if they stray from the route and follow
> through a few times and that's the end of that.

Sounds good to me!

> You can't say that enough. Don't let me interfere....
> continue, please.

Lol.. well i don't think i can say it enough either.

> > btw.. your pics are all up.

> Gonna crash the whole wild goddamned WWW.

You want me to give out the link to all of the pics??

> Yeah... kick my feet up for a while, maybe spend a day with
> The Puppy Wizard's Mrs. and HIS puppys... now that the
> STATE of The ART has been RIGHTED.

Yup... it will be a month or two for the card.. between busy
and shopping for the right card at the right price... but we
can have the tape done i think easy.

> > thank you thank you thank you.

> You CANNOT FLATTER The Puppy Wizard ENOUGH.
> PLEASE TRY HARDER. The Puppy Wizard reveres a
> DEDICATED STUDENT.

lol... watch out... we might build a statue in the park!

> > of course don't forget mrs. puppy wizard.

> The Puppy Wizard would be nothing without HIS Mrs. Puppy
> Wizard. She pulls all the strings, HE just sets there stark
> raven nekkid takin all the goddamned CREDIT for it for
> HIMSELF.

She's so cool about it though :)

> > my grandchildren will never ever.. ever.. feel shame or
> > feel like they're not loved :).

> Yeah... and that's the BEST PART, and the PRICE is FREE.

Yup :)

> > I won't stop till everyone is doing it too :)

> The Puppy Wizard thought you'd see things HIS WON WAY.

> The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ ) >

I always did.. i just needed to check my vision :)

Amanda.


Punishment Deranges Behavior.
"NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
EXCEPT
To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

--Marshall

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<*.@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer


Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.

'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

> Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
> Date: 02/05/1999
> Author: Robert Crim <fritzg...@earthlink.net>
> You filthy, unctuous, no good charlatan. If you had
> any idea of what dogs and dog people were about
> you would realize the depths of the absolute loathing
> and contempt I hold for you right now. Were it not
> for the blessed distance and anonymity that the internet
> gives us from the scummy likes of you, I would probably
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of shit you really are

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

=====================

> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

> Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy, "you
insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology


From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:26:31 GMT

Subject: Dr. George VonHilshimer Writes:
"No Loving, No Learning."

HOWEDY People,

Perhaps the PROBLEM is "TOO MANY WORDS?"

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop

> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop
> > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
> > > > > all the time, would send up "red flag" to you
> > > > > and others, but the fact remains, if a technique
> > > > > *doesn't* work 100% of the time, with all dogs,
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.

> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.

> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that
> > > leap.

> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.

> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:

Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.

> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.

This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.

Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;

Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;

Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;

The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;

Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .

There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.

I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.

NO PUNISHMENT.

Must pay attention to who is the animal?

His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.

I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than
the methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.

Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.

Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.

You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.

Fondly, Dr. Von

Larry is a scientist who studied various training
methods and spoke personally with as many of the
best trainers and behaviorists he could find,
including the wonderful but little known Dr. Dare
Miller:

From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry


"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME The
Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
professional trainer, 30 years experience.

Date: 2001-11-14 09:13:21 PST

"Yves Dussault" <ydussa...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3b1110ff.3798143@news1.on.sympatico.ca...

> Hi!
> I have downloaded Wit's End Dog Training Method...
> In there there is that trick with a toy about "Separation
> anxiety surrogate toy technique."
> Anybody has tried that... I would like to give it a try with
> my GSP (German shorthair.....pointer)
> Comments? Yves Dussault

Yves,

I for one have tried it... in fact I use this all the time. I
just used it last evening while my husband and I went
out to see "The Mummy Returns" (a horrible turkey of
a movie, but at least the house wasn't chewed from
end to end in the meantime).

Yes, it really works. :-) So do the other
distraction/praise techniques described therein.

If you are interested in the manual, you will
probably want to begin the exercises as well.

Regards,
Lisa

From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
>
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

"*.@DCFWatch.com" wrote:

No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull. She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.

Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..

she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.

Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing. I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.

I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.

I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..

we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.

She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty. So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.

One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.

two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.

And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..

actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.

She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people. she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.

She also does her commands on cue.. and doesn't look for a treat.


"Anthony Testa" <testa52...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c603fe9c.0203260607.77c283ce@posting.google.com...

I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year ago with
my lovely wife

snip horror story >

Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know it all of
pets. His response to the exact letter we initially wrote to
Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her back" I'll save this person
embarrassment by not saying the name. However, you know who you are
and I have this to say to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
sir, do not belong working with animals!

Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news group, I can't
for the life of me understand why this many people are so dang blind
or ignorant.

You just keep plugging away at what you do, because you my friend are
a life saver!!!

Anytime you need someone to speak about the results of your product,
you have my number. We would gladly talk to them.

Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...

Anthony & Linda Testa
Jacksonville, Florida

==============

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
news:

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."

*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!

Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

================================

From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

----------------------------------


From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

===================

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):


I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.

AIMEE


From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:29:04 GMT
Subject: Re: House training and such...

HOWEDY culprit,

"culprit" <culp...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:bm30da$hmbrc$1@ID-58739.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "ke.ver" <Koen.Verhe...@pandora.be> wrote in message
> news:kp7hb.67308$4m5.3401758@phobos.telenet-ops.be...

> > aimee , i don't quite understand : when the dog > pees or poops
> you tell the dog first what's that > and then you tell him good boy
> , you're a good dog ; > what kind of training manual is TPW ?

> > i don't see how this can help the dog ( and you )

> i think "aimee" is an alias for our resident troll, who tries to
> push his "training method" on people. i wouldn't worry too much
> about her. -kelly


HOWEDY kelly,

"culprit" <culpri...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:bl22ho$76rdi$1@ID-58739.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "AIMEE" <countrygirl0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1afc3ce9.0309260757.5f5908ae@posting.google.com... > We had
> fallen into a rut - constant bickering and > tension, we never
> laughed or had FUN together - > but now, with the same mindset used
> in THE PUPPY > WIZARDS dog training, our communications channels >
> have opened, and we now work together instead of > against one
> another. TPW saved your marriage?

INDEEDY.

> kick ass!

The Puppy Wizard doesn't approve of violence.

> that's a new one, innit?

NOT AT ALL, kelly.

> we better add that to the list of magical things the wiz can do!

INDEEDY.

> train all dogs perfectly, in minutes.

GUARANTEED.

> prevent seizures.

DONE THAT.

> make children behave better.

GUARANTEED.

> save bad marriages.

DONE THAT.

> am i missing anything?

INDEEDY. You're missing HUMAN DECENCY,
MORALS, ETHICS, PRINCIPLES, and ALL REASON.

> -kelly

And that ain't all The Puppy Wizard SPECIALIZES in, kelly.

> not really in need of saving, thanks.

NO PROBLEMO! You're inscribed in the book
of eternal death. You're a liar and a dog abuser
and a MENTAL CASE.

lyingdogDUMMY wrote:
> Well, the newest shill on the scene must be Michael, because Jerry
> couldn't possibly spell "literalists."

Your reply doesn't even pertain to the subject...

Why don't we discuss why you feel you need hurt
animals to "train" them?

I've actually met TPW. I called him a few times with
questions about the training method, and he realized
that there were some underlying problems. Axel (my dog)
had a special situation. So, TPW met with us in our home.
The first thing he noticed was that Axel's collar was too tight.
We loosened it, and immediately Axel calmed down quite a bit.

We went outside and worked on the HOT AND COLD
HANDLING EXERCISE and THE FAMILY PACK
LEADERSHIP EXERCIZE. That seemed to get us
headed in the right direction, but we were still having
a few problems with Axel's anxiety.

The main reason TPW visited our home - I found this
our recently during one of our conversations- was to
see how my husband and I interacted with one another.

I had been following the methods precisely, but Axel
was still having difficulty.

TPW's assumptions were correct - we were causing
alot of Axel's anxiety with our arguments and tension.
TPW told me that Axel has been one of his most difficult
dogs to work with.

Axel had his anxieties from mishandling and
from my husband and myself.

We had a few problems because I was unwilling to
accept the fact that I needed to be "nice" eventhough
I wasn't being treated "nicely", but once I realized that
was the only way I could really get Axel past his anxiety,
I worked on being a loving wife (eventhough I didn't really
want to be).

AND GUESS WHAT? My husband saw the difference,
and he followed suit. Now, we have a stress free dog,
and a good marriage.

Can you tell me how forcing someone (dog, person, cat)
to do what YOU want them to do, is going to improve a
situation? I tried that with my husband and with my dog,
and it didn't work with either of them.

Your methods have an 85% success rate - and my
dog was one of the 15% that doesn't accept your methods.

TPW has 100% success rate. You do the math.

If TPW hadn't helped us, Axel wouldn't be where he is today.

============================

Subject: Ask The Puppy Wizard

HOWEDY Aimee,

> my husband believes that this product is like ecstasy.

Well, for ME it IS... it's a dream come true. I got to ask
the Mrs. to keep pinchin me to believe it myself. My
DDR works like an AUTOMAGICK bio feeback trainer.
It uses a gentle sound, a beat, to entrain the brain,
like as if you was humming your favorite song. When
the critter is faced with a stressor, he AUTOMAGICKALLY
reflexes to that comfortable state of mind, to "hide"
from his fears. With repetition, the fears are "collapsed"
or over ridden, by the pleasant "tune."

There's a child psychologist currently testin DDR on
his hyperactive and learning disabled patients.

> Will this product in any way harm my dog?

Absolutely not. I've tested it on HUNDREDS of dogs
and kats whom I've known well and closely observed
over many years before offering my DDR for sale. It's
giving me better reports from users than I'd ever
imagined possible. It even stops cows from "bellowing."

> He has a severe anxiety disorder and cannot be left alone in our
> apartment -whether in his crate or left to roam free.

O.K., that's the problem! The crate in itself causes fear in
a twofold manner. Many dogs fear the crate because they
can't go to relieve themselves or have water, or become
anxious because it's a safe haven, a refuge he can run to
in order to hide from THINGS that scare him, like loud
noises, guests, whatever. Every minute he spends hiding
in there, increases his fears about what's goin on.

With repetition, just entering the crate even willingly,
restimulates ALL his fears, even when he goes in of
his on volition for no particular reason.

> We have tried just about everything...

Well, you just got LUCKY. I've got a comprehensive manual
available for free on my website. STUDY IT. Do the exercises,
and ask me for help if you've got questions or have difficulty.
Follow the method EXACTLY, don't vary, and ask me for help
FAST, if you don't get 100% success, nearly instantly.

There's absolutely NO reason your dog should have to
suffer separation anxiety for more than two days.

> This is our last resort.

First thing you've got to do is teach him your HOWES is his
HOWES, and that no matter what, you'll never be cross with
him.

That'll give him the confidence to stay alone withHOWET
supervision. Separation anxiety has nothing to do with
your absences, it's got to do with not having his controller
in charge of his behavior.

> Until we find some way to train him,

You just did. My tiny manual has ALL the information you need
to bring your dog to any level of proficiency in any field you
desire.

> he is living with my parents.

Good. Take a couple of days to study and practice the techniques
withHOWET your pup, then go pick him up and DO the exercises
in a couple of locations on your way back to your HOWES.

> Will this product help me get my Axel back?

The method and the machine both rely on constant praise.
The machine does a much more thorough job of convincing
the dog everything is O.K. It'll usually calm any anxious
outbursts in maybe as little as five seconds, for a dog that's
been conditioned to it for a few days. After a few months of
use, you'll not need to use it except on occasion.

I'd give you more info about the machine, but you got
enough reading ahead of you in my manual. Just rest
assured that if you desire the very best for you dog my
DDR machine will do just that. It's money back satisfaction
guaranteed forever cause there ain't nuthin better than it
in the Whole Wild World. You and your pets will LOVE it!

But start the manual first, cause that's gonna break the
cause of his anxiety.

Yours, Jerry.

"Katra" <K...@centurytel.net wrote in message
news:
3EEEAC89.3D837__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z__@centurytel.net...

Ok, so I care for an unusually large number of cats...
And when you have this many, there are behavior
problems. Not due to crowding, but some cats are
territorial by nature.

I checked out Jerry's site and found the science behind
the BIOSOUND box to be sound. (no pun intended <G)
I am familiar with the concept of using sound therapy
from my studies on deep meditation and had experimented
with it already.

So, I bought one.

Results?

The cats now sleep thru the night instead
of spatting at 3 a.m.

Taz, my brain damaged kitty, no longer wanders up the
hall in the middle of the night, yowling when he gets "lost".
(He's not the brightest bannana in the bunch. ;-) )

He's been sleeping quietly at my feet now for the past 3
nights I left the box running. He suffered a severe head
injury as a kitten when he got hit by a car. That is how I
got him. I picked him up out of the middle of the highway. :-(

Thank the gods for good vets...

Feeding frenzy time, when I dole out the canned food,
used to be fraught with the more dominant kitties hissing
at the undercats to get the best place at mom's feet. They
always settled down once the food dishes were down, but
now there has been NO fighting!

They have been more obedient about staying off the
sink and the dining room table, and, whomever it was
that kept pooping in FRONT of the litter box on the floor
has quit!

Yay! I never did catch who was doing it.

Overall, much calmer behavior from the cats.

As for the dogs, the jury is still out on them. The
shelties seem unaffected but it's impossible to
tell with them as they were already calm, sedate,
obedient and well trained dogs.

With hyper Jewely, well, tonight she did not try to jump
on me when I let her out of the bedroom to go potty, and
she calmly sat at the door waiting to be let out instead of
getting all anxious. I have not really tried serious training
with her indoors near the box yet, except once, but not for
long enough to see if it'd really work.

Since some of the usual training methods are not working
with her on the jumping problem, I plan to give Jerry's method
a fair shake. The one time I tried it, yeah, she piddled, but I
think that's because I did not do it right. I spoke with Jerry
further by e-mail and I was not supposed to jump straight in
to working on a specific behavior problem. I need to to the
pre-training excercizes first!

I'll post later on the results when I have more time
to really concentrate on working with her near the box.

In the meantime, the box DOES seem to calm the
animals and make it easier to work with them. The
results alone on the cats have made it worth every
penny. And if it can increase Jewely's attention span........ ;-)

Leah might want to try one on Maddie? <shrugs

He may be hostile on the list, but he IS honest and
honors his money back guarantees, so you won't be
out anything if you just decide to try it like I did!

Katra

=============================


From: Ama...@DCFWatch.com (Ama...@dcfwatch.com)
Subject: Can we get specific about doggydoright without rancor?
Date: 2003-01-13 08:00:29 PST


"Donna" <raindancer...@SPAMBLOCKyahoo.­com> wrote in message
<news:MuwU9.10110$R16.6984@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...

> Just a question... Got Jerry on kill-file too, but what is this
> "doggiedoright" thing??? Donna


It's a smallish box with ac adapter. It emits a "song". A sound
unheard by the tympanic membrane. It regulates brain waves
and calms the subject down. I got mine yesterday.

I have two pitties, my neighbor on one side has an infant pitty
and the other neighbor on my left has a pitty mix, greyhound
and pig. Her dogs bark CONSTANTLY!

All hours of the night.. she lets em out for last call around 1am.
We put ours on our kicthen window sill so the animals outside
and inside can hear it. Anyway.. for the first time my dogs slept
peacefully.

I also did some training with jerry and hise wife yesterday,
between that and the machine my dogs ignored the dogs barking.
A mere quiet growl from my oldest dog, a good girl good job! and
she went back to sleep.. an abolsolute first in this house.

My nieghbors dogs continued barking.. the machine was
not set to play.. so i reset it.. and they shut right up.

The whole nieghborhood was quiet for the first time.

Neighbors dogs are still behaving today.

I will be loaning it to my father in two weeks, once my dogs
remember the "song" and can learn to replay it to themselves
to calm themselves down, for his cockatiel who is home alone
alot.. and very bitchy.

I will also be buying one for my mom for her feuding kitty cats.
And finally I will be buying one for my friend who has two dogs
and a child with major seizure problems. I think this device will
help her daughters seizures since it controls and regulates brain
waves.

Since i'm not rich.. and these machines are $135 with shipping ...
when i say I am planning on buying three of them for friends.. you
know it works. I could always let them borrow it for free.. but
this machine is so kickass.. they need their own so their
neighbors dogs can be happy too.

================

And here's my machine curing seizures:

Jerry says:
howe's the baby's seizures?

parentadlitem says:
better

Jerry says:
got any idea how much better?

parentadlitem says:
not really

parentadlitem says:
she doesn't do em here that i see

Jerry says:
amazing

Jerry says:
when's the last time she seized with you?

parentadlitem says:
weeks ago?

Jerry says:
but before the machine it was daily?

parentadlitem says:
every minute!

Jerry says:
does her mom use it at her howes?

parentadlitem says:
yup

parentadlitem says:
i yelled at her about it

Jerry says:
ask her when's the last time she saw a seizure for me

parentadlitem says:
k . she's sleepin now, ill talk to her tonight, she's comin over

Jerry says:
yeah... that's pretty good stuff

parentadlitem says:
yup

parentadlitem says:
i love mine

parentadlitem says:
no barkin the nieghborhood at all anymore

parentadlitem says:
ever

Jerry says:
right

parentadlitem says:
once in a blue moon some distant dog will bark

parentadlitem says:
but all the neighbors dogs are quiet

Jerry says:
when you hear that distant dog throw the machin on

parentadlitem says:
we do

parentadlitem says:
it's really rare though

=================


Here's a letter from the President of Pet Rescue,
animal commissioner of Brevard Co FL, and board
member of space cats dot com.

Hi Jerry,

I received email from Mark Shaw on 10/6 which I just read today.
Sorry I didn't have time to get to it sooner. We have had a lot
going on in our area concerning animals. We formed a new Task
Force to address spay/neuter, pet overpopulation and animal
abuse. I needed to do a lot of research before the first meeting
and time was just not available for anything else.

Anyway the letter went on to say that we are in collusion, I tried
to defraud him, and have sent none of the materials that he has
asked for although he has yet to furnish the P.O. Box number that
he wanted them sent to in the first place. He goes on to state that
I am no longer eligible for the "fictions reward." All of this is in
answer to postings that prove I was "sharing" his email with you
which in his opinion was a breach of good manners. His email only
had terms and conditions of the reward which I would consider
"public information."

Be that as it may, I would like to state that you had my permission
to post any email I have sent you regarding DDR including this
email.

I'm very sorry that you have to put up with this type of situation
from someone that obviously never intended to make good on his
reward offer in the first place.

I had a call from a friend of mine with a very aggressive cat. I
have loaned her my DDR for a few weeks to see if it will calm JR
down. I will let you know the results. She goes to the same holistic
vet that I go to and he is also interested.

In case Mark does post to the list again I would like to say that I
do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it has helped
my dogs and cats. I have entirely too much to do, to worry about his
opinions or reward.

The only reason I was willing to apply for the reward was on your
behalf as I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with
aggression and other behavior problems.

I am in Feral Cat Network (we spay and neuter approximately 100
feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog
obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of
Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of
Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from
AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.).

I listed these not to be on an ego trip but to let Mark know that I
am involved with animals and have very little time to play games
with him also I would not recommend your product if I did not
believe in it.

Please feel free to post this email as it has no copyright on it as
did Mark Shaw's last email to me.

Take care Jerry and don't let the Mark's of the world get you down.

Elaine

Thank you, Elaine. I have been trying to educate the mark's of this
world, with some occasional successes. I guess that's variable
reinforcement?

Yours, Jerry.

Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue writes: Sep 9,
2000

"I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful and
the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right does
indeed exist.

I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
but our cats and even us.

She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.

It is not just my opinion that all this aggression existed
before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by three vets
to euthanize her.

I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
has helped my dogs and cats. I do think your product is a
valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior
problems.

I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter approximately
100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC
dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club,
president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for
Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county
commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat
club, assistant County manager, head of animal control,
director of two different shelters, etc.).

Thanks, Elaine,

Hi Jerry,

I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have since
borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very
highly of it.

So, I brought it home and plugged it in. Of course, I
wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have every
one immediately fall to the floor in little comas for a few
hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be quiet, still no
comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds at that point. So,
I gave it a little longer. Still no comas. Was this really
going to work? I mean, I do have an unusual situation.

So, by bedtime, a few hours later. I started to notice just
how many were asleep already - with their feet in the air! I
started to have hope. During the night, all was calm. In the
morning when I got up, only a few of them WALKED quietly
to the door to go out. Not the usual evacuation.

I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect. I
wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters had
resurfaced. I wondered if I could break into Elaine's house
and if she would notice :)

I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues
Beagles. She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house. God
bless her. She is interested to see if it will work for her. I
also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue, and
she is interested. The cat rescue people have monthly
meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.

So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
about the best way to use it in my case, I would appreciate
it. I of course wanted to keep it on the highest setting, but
don't know if that is advised, even with my situation of so
many new ones coming and (too few) going.

Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc.
I think the vets should have the info in their offices.

It must help dogs with separation anxiety. My vet
practices homeopathic as well as traditional medicine,
so I would think it would be right up her alley.

Thank you.
Desiree M Webber
A New Leash On Life


"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6786-3C0E896C-19@storefull-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

Thanks Tricia9999, that was an interesting read!
Course my little gray box seems to be working...
Buddy stopped biting the baby! No negative side-
effects seen occurring...not to the bird, the other
bird or Zelda. ~misty


"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message
news: 16990-3CAB1F8__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_
MASK_i?a63jfAD$z__@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do
know she's not here with us. I really can't blame
anyone here for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because
of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the
idea that my using a shock collar could have any
bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had been
keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my
concern became how to keep them from running
off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled
in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world
now <g> A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely
housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard,
and doesn't bark all the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

=====================


misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
come back in the yard and would run for days. The last
time, Peach didn't come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
train my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes
each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She
no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular
fence then you need to train your dog. I will never
rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in our
yard again. The price was too high:-(

~misty

Dear Jerry-

I just wanted to let you know how wonderful your Doggy Do
Right product is. I was skeptical at first, but have been
tremendously pleased.

As you know, we had a neighbor's dog that was extremely
bothersome, at times barking loudly for 3 hours straight.
Within a few days, the barking decreased, and now it is just
the occasional bark. this dog lives approximately 500 feet
away, and even at that distance, the machine has done wonders.

You were always available and patient to answer my
questions, and now I can be in my own home without going
nuts from the barking. As an added pleasure, all the other
minor barking nuisances in the neighborhood have stopped
as well.

Quiet is wonderful! Thank you.

Pam Graves

From: 2tails (wagginta...@hotmail.com)
Subject: My Experience with the Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will Too)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior

Date: 2001-07-04 20:45:19 PST

After using Jerry's training manual, I became curious
about the Doggy Do Right (DDR) machine, and a few weeks
ago I received one.

I thought the group might be interested in some things
I've noticed since using it. (This is a bit of an
understatement as I certainly expect a flurry of responses...
most of them will probably be nasty.

But we'll see.)

Anyway, at first I would leave it on only when I left the
house, but one day I forgot and left it on all night. My
dogs used to wake me up between 8 and 8:30 a.m. The morning
after I left it on all night, they slept until 9:30 a.m.

At first I wondered why they had slept in so
late, and then I noticed that the DDR was on.

(And no, I'm not an early riser.) :-)

Now they consistently sleep until 9:30 or 10:00 a.m.,
unless I wake them up earlier. One night the power
went out, and the DDR was switched off. They woke me
around 8:30 that day.

The second thing was something my husband noticed.
If the light on the DDR is flashing, it is in "rest"
mode... when it's solid, it is playing the program.
He came home, the dogs were doing their usual growl
and "bitey face" rowdiness... when the machine's light
became solid (programon), they laid down in the same
room with the machine.

Pepper even laid on her side and started taking a little nap.

Often, I will see the dogs in the room with the DDR when
the program is playing, usually around their nap time.
That is, they will nap in the same room as the machine
and not in other areas of the house... even though their
"preferred" sleeping spot at other times seems to be my
bed.

The last two things I've noticed have been with my 7 yr
old Dalmatian, Beau. He is normally terrified of thunderstorms,
so much that he will try to crawl into my lap, or he will
shake and shed hair everywhere.

(Shedding hair is a symptom of stress I suppose... he does
the same thing at the vet's.)

On Sunday, we had a really severe thunderstorm, with hail,
etc. When the storm began, I turned the machine to play mode.
He laid on the floor next to where I was sitting. He still
didn't want to let me get out of his sight, but his behavior
was much improved from earlier episodes.

The last thing has to do with Beau and the vacuum cleaner.
The surest way for me to clear him out of a room used to
be for me to start vacuuming. He'd race into another room
and hide. Now, he will stay in the same room. He's still
wary of it, and leaves his "escape route" open, but he will
stay in the same room while I'm using it, something he's
never done before.

I've done no training to address these issues, but since
using the DDR for approximately three weeks, these are
some of the calmer behaviors that I've noticed.

As I said, I'm sure this will create a storm. May I say
in advance, that only polite posts will be considered for
a response by me.

Regards, Lisa

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21047-3CAD0E8A-173@storefull-2291.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> Jerry sent me the DDR when I mentioned my cockatoo was stressed
out by
> my then just learning to walk baby.

> Buddy was screaming day and night..lunging at Joey whenever he
crawled
> up to Buddy's cage and nipping the baby ( if Buddy wanted to his
beak
> is powerful enough to sever an adult's finger in one snap!)

> At first we noticed nothing... after a few days
..nothing..nothing
> except quiet :-)

> That's not to say Buddy never screams.. heh.. he'a a 'Too.. but
the
> late night scream-a-thons ended.

> He also tolerates Joey playing in his water dish <sigh> just
what I
> want...2 splashers! Buddy loves to bathe in his water until
there's
> more water on the floor and walls than in his dish :-)

> Twice now Buddy has had marathon scream-a-thons... for a few
days
> each time. It takes that long for me to realize the DDR is
unplugged
:-O
> Once cos DH did some maintenance and forgot to plug it back in
( of
> course he remembered to plug the washing machine back in ;-P)

> The second time I had unplugged it while sweeping...and forgot
to
> plug it back in...

> We sure enjoy him being such a good bird! He's been so loving
to
> everyone... my older 2 boys love being able to give him
scritches
> again.

> ~misty

> (No, Jerry, you can't have the DDR back just yet! :-)

===================

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news:
1199-3BD34D6A-229@storefull-235.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I
have a very loud cockatoo who has been having problems
adjusting to my 8 month old son.

Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy's cage
as a hold on for dear life object.

Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older
two boys went through this stage in a different house where
Buddy had his own room and the boys had only visits,
daily contact 24/7.

Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has
been driving him nuts! He showed his disapproval by non-stop
screaming. A cockatoo scream can be heard a block away with
all the widows shut <g being in the house it makes your ears
pop and your nerves crawl.

Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to
use it. He answered my questions quite politely.

I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is
located~ teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks.

At first I noticed no difference in Buddy's behavior. Then
I realized after a week that he no longer screamed for hours
on end. This isn't to say he stopped completely <bg he still
demands his share of all meals. But he doesn't start screaming
at 10 pm when he wants _everyone_ to go to bed.

Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My nerves
were frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per Jerry's
instructions. I discovered the DDR was shut off! I turned it
back on and left it on the lowest setting. Buddy calmed back
down and quit screaming.

In the time that I've had the DDR on I've had a lot of c*ts
come to my house. One I adopted and he's quite the sweetie.
He's a yellow tiger named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who
is very friendly with my kids and Zelda.

I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like
the methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like things
that are free. I also like the fact that I can e-mail him and
get advice whenever I need it.

Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the
DDR is working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in electronics,
knows alot about radios and anything mechanical... he's a
jack of all trades around the house <g). He does NDT for a
living.

We don't expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey is
walking, Buddy will realize that he's not a strange animal..
some kind of furless dog or c*t <bg.

So, yes, there are some of us out here who do appreciate
Jerry's methods if not his condemnation of other "regulars".

Honey, flies that sort of thing....

~misty


All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.

What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George

If you've got them by the balls
their hearts and minds
will follow,"
John Wayne.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ } >


Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Animal Behavior Forensic
Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092


Matzi
2005-10-12 14:01:40 EST
why is this on here? other than as an example of the ignorance ill manners
and stupidity some people demonstrate to honestly asked questions or
problems?


"A Poor Shepherd Boy And His Dog" <AtHisMastersFeet@MuchoMail.Com> wrote in
message news:1129128507.136613.37310@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
HOWEDY caroline,

caroline wrote:
> "Andy Leavens" <andy@dovescom.com> wrote
>
> > How do you stop a 6 week old puppy from whining?
>
> Return it to its mother!

Sorry caroline, you're full of malarkey.

Puppys crying is a SYMPTOM of SUMPTHIN WRONG,
that USUALLY being that they're LOCKED IN A
BOX and deprived of food water toilet affection
and attention, not that they're separated from
their mumzie who wants nothin to do with them
as they're weaned at five weeks of age, you
ignorant simpleton.

Scott & Fuller, the most respected researchers on
dog and behavior and The Amazing Puppy Wizard agree
that pups should be taken from their litter at six
weeks and the 8th week should have NO stress such
as veterinary treatments or TRAINsportation or any
change whatsoever as that is a developemental stage.

The IDIOTS who recommend 8 weeks is the correct age
for takin a pup from the litter sez so on the MISTAKEN
NOTION that because the U.S. Department of Agriculture
restricts INTERSTATE SHIPPING till 8 weeks of age is
that they're doing so for puporses other than to protect
the lives of pups IN TRAINSI ONLY.

You're an ignorant know nuthin blowhard, caroline:

From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:14:27 +0100
Subject: Re: OT - URGENT STOLEN DOG - HELP PLEASE!

"Ruettiger Petra" wrote

> my god, how dreadful. Can't help but will keep
> fingers crossed for Cody's safe return ...

> Caroline, could you suggest a nice doggie newsgroup -
> with the imminent arrival of Idefix on Tuesday I may
> need some help ...

rec.pets.dogs.misc
rec.pets.dogs.behaviour
rec.pets.dogs.breeds
rec.pets.dogs.activities

That should keep you busy for a day or two....

Word of warning, if/when you come across The Puppy Wizard
its advisable to just killfile him, there is absolutely no
point reasoning with him. Its standard practice to advise
new subscribers to just kilfile him for some peace.

If you want any advice specific to JRTs, then please don't
hesitate to contact me, I breed and show them in my other
life (all IKC registered) so hopefully can answer any queries
you might have, or will be well placed to pass you onto to
someone who can. (Although I am away from home from today
until Thursday...but checking emails will be the second thing
I do when I get home) caroline_cooraclevin AT iolfree DOT ie

If you want a JRT specific forum you can visit www.swedishjrt.com
(Its very European, I seem to be the only European member not living
on mainland Europe) with a splashing of Aussies too.

Its a private forum, and very friendly. Mainly biased towards
breeding and showing (they are a recognised breed in most kennel
club organisations across the world - just not in the UK), but
also a great place for breed-specific advice.

Cheers

Caroline (the one in Ireland)

-------------

Now I'm gonna use YOUR OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY to
thrash bash and trash you, you miserable dog abusin
punk thug coward hoodlum:

>From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
>Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:18:16 -0000

>Subject: OK, this has me beat...suggestions welcome

> I'm currently fostering a 5 month rescue puppy (large
> breed cross breed) I've had this puppy 2 months, and
> I'm making absolutely no headway with housetraining her.

BWEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE at four weeks, caroline.
ONLY a DOG ABUSER can FHOWEL Mother Nature's NATURAL
HOWEsbreakin plan.

> Here's the problem....she has always appeared to think
> that her crate is the place to go...and I don't mean
> for sleeping.

Dogs GET HOWEsbreakin problems from bein
locked in boxes and denied food water
toilet area attention affection and ignored
when they CRY, caroline.

THAT'S HOWE COME dogs get SEIZURES and other
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES aka The
Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME like CHRONIC INCURABLE
RINGWORM, carolin, you dog abusing mental case.

> So obviously the crate-training' ideas are seemingly
> irrelevant as she has no concept of keeping her bed
> clean.

When ignoramuses like you lock dogs in boxes and
IGNORE their cries they have PAINICK ATTACKS which
FORCE the dog to evacuate and vomit, caroline.

Locking the successfully "crate trained" dog in
a box teaches them that their BOX is their HOWES
and YOUR HOWES is their doGgamened TOILET.

> I'm changing her bedding upward of 6 times a day

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

HOWEsbreakin problems can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY

> and spraying the base tray of the crate with Pet
> fresh, so there's no residual smell in there.

That's SHEER IDIOCY, caroline. Dogs DO NOT MARK
over their own spots, caroline. FurtherMOORE, it's
HUGELY DHOWETFUL that any enzymatic cleaner is
gonna take the scent of urine and feces HOWETA
the environment sufficiently to hide it from a
DOG.

> The crate door is open all day long. In fact
> its only ever closed at night (11pm to 6am) or
> if I go out during the day (I work from home
> so this is rare...and if I'm out for more than
> an hour I drop her off to the OH so he can amuse
> her at work)

BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

> She goes outside, and receives mucho praise for this...
> but she also go inside, and is not bothered by this.
> My way of dealing with the *daily* indoors accidents...
> and by this I mean the house and not the crate (I'll get
> to the crate later)...is to verbally scold if I catch her
> in the act and clean up straight away, and if I find a
> 'present' (be it solid or liquid) somewhere after the act,
> then I just clean up as normal.

THAT'S HOWE COME YOU CAN'T HOWEsbreak your dog, you dog
abusing punk thug coward mental case hoodlum:



From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
>
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike



From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

===================

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):


I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.

AIMEE


> Now for the crate....she will willingly go into
> the crate (door open) to wee or poo. I should
> reiterate, she'll actually make the effort to
> *go in to* the crate to do this,

She's TRYIN to TELL YOU SUMPTHIN you ignoramus.

> and then come back out of the crate when she's
> finished. To add insult to injury if I'm not
> quick enough she'll eat the poo..

Coprophagia is CAUSED by PUNISHING dogs for
HOWEsbreakin accidents, you dog abusing mental
case.

> She'll hide 'nuggets' in her bedding, so she
> can have a feast when I'm not looking.

No, she HIDES them so YOU WON'T PUNISH HER.

> if she has an 'accident' outside the crate, she'll
> pick up the solids and take them back to her crate
> for a snack...

She's TRYING to HIDE THE EVIDENCE so YOU DON'T
ABUSER HER somemore, you freakin imbecile.

> if she poos outside she's not interested in it,

Duh-Oh??? BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

> hooking up with her mates to play (I have 4
> other dogs) is more important, but indoor poo
> is manna from heaven.

THAT'S INSANE!

> She has done this since she arrived, so its not
> something she has learned since being here...

Because her FORMER ABUSERS abused her the same as you do.

> but I am stuck for ideas to break her of this habit.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!

> What can I do to teach her that her crate would be
> nicer for sleeping if she didn't pee and poo in it?....
> my theory being, if I can crack the crate problem,
> I can make more headway with the 'normal' housetraining.

You'll NEVER HOWEsbreak her if you continue
lockin IT in the doGgamend crate, caroline.

> I have honestly

BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHHAAA!!!

You've NEVER been HONEST in your life, caroline.

> never come up against this problem before,
> and I have had dogs all my life.

AS A BACKYARD PUPPYMILLER.

Your own dogs got SEIZURE from being punished
and crated and they're sufferin from STRESS
which is HOWE COME you got an INCURABLE CASE
of RINGWORM:

From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 19:35:00 -0000
Subject: Re: Canine epilepsy

"ex WGS Hamm" wrote
> Kip has had some massive grand mal fits recently.

Looks like no one has replied to you, so I'll jump in.

I have a mixed terrier who is also epileptic.

She's on 30mg Phenobarb (epiphen) and has been for the last 5 years.

Prior to medication the frequency of fits increased
over time from every 6 mnths to twice a week. She
hasn't had a seizure now in nearly three years!

YAY!

When she was first on mediation it took a while to get
the dose right....too high and she acted heavily sedated,
too low and she had breakthrough seizures. At first she
wasn't speyed, so the dose was increased to 45 mg during
her seasons as the hormonal changes used to trigger breakthrough
seizures.

After she was spayed she has stayed happily at 30mg.

We have the liver test done every 6 months without fail.
You could also discuss with your vet adding some milk
thistle as an occasional supplement...milk thistle can
do wonders for the liver. If your vet only wants to see
your dog every 3 or 6 months, then ask him/her to prescribe
that amount. However, I would imagine if the medication is
a new thing your vet might want to see your dog more frequently
initially.

I'm a member of this yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/
group/k9epilepsy/ and have found them invaluable for advice
and support. there are quite a few UK folks in the group,
but the majority are on the other side of the Atlantic.

This is a bonus often. If your dog has had a seizure in the
middle of the night and you need a virtual shoulder to cry on,
or some urgent advice, the time zones can mean someone will
often reply with a supportive message pretty quickly.

Has your vet mentioned anything about keeping an epilepsy diary?

Do so! its invaluable! Record all the info, date, time duration,
activity etc of each seizure, Write up a summary of each vet visit.

Note every change in Epiphen dose and your dog's reaction to
the change. Note down all her blood test results. We also take
our diary to the vet everytime she goes in for a check up/bloodworks
etc. If anything has happened since the last check-up the vet can
see your thoughts on it as it happened, rather than the faded memory
in your head.

Hope this is enough to keep you going for now.
If you have any more questions just shout ;o)


From: "caroline" <nospample...@thank.you>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:34:26 +0100
Subject: Re: ringworm

"Gwen & John" wrote

> Yes, it has been diagnosed by the vet today,

Without wanting to have a willy-waving competition we
have a dog in the UK with ringworm who has been unsuccesfully
treated for over 18 months. It simply didn't respond to
anything that was thrown at it...and, believe me, everything
*was* thrown at it....a course of one particular treatment
was costing over \ufffd50 a *week* to administer.

She is 9 yrs old, so would also be considered elderly...on
top of the fact that she is epileptic and on daily Phenobarb
until the end of her days.

You'd be pretty irresponsible to other dog owners if it is
ringworm and you're walking him in other areas where other
dogs/animals are walking/exercising.

For the sake of my dogs' health I would also avoid you.
If it is ringworm then try and find quiet areas for walking...
ones where the chances of others dogs being walked there are
minimal.

No, I would recommend you stop brushing him, and soak all
his grooming equipment in the solution your vet will most
probably have recommended for soaking his food bowls, leads,
collars and bedding in etc.

On that note, if it is ringworm....if he has a leather collar,
soak it and then bin it. Invest in a nylon collar which can
be safely soaked and is machine-washable (I tie them into socks
for the washing machine).

Our dog is/was shaved all over regularly...if your ringworm is
persistant and shows no sign of disappearing i would recommend
this...sometimes the existence of a normal coat can serve to
continuously re-infect.

With regard to your earlier comment about him currently looking
shabby due to only having the areas affected clipped...with an
all over shave he would also look surprisingly neater, and won't
pull so many odd looks from passers-by.

We thought our girl would look awful shaved, but we're incredibly
suprised to find she looked gorgeous....we might just keep her
clipped because she looks so good.

Fortunately the last culture grown from a hair-pull for our girl
showed negative for ringworm, but now she has a skin complaint
due to her lowered immune system from all the strong medication
she has been receiving.

As such she's now on strong anti-histamines and other nice stuff...

Something which you might find interesting, if not useful, most
forms of ringowrm clear up of their own volition after a few nice
days of exposure to good old sunlight....in fact I believe in
agricultural circles it is rarely treated nowadays as it often
disappears on its own once the sun comes out in the sping/summer.

However, if you've a similar strain of ringworm to the one
we had then sunbathing with your dog probably won't help much.

I have some pictures of her at her worst...but I won't post a
link to them unless you're interested. Its not nice viewing,
especially as the ringworm was mainly on her face and muzzle.

--------------------

IOW, you're nuthin but a KNOW NUTHIN BACKYARD PUPPYMILLER.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >

There's plenty more where this came from:

This link is the latest copy of my manual:

<{#}: ~ } >< { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } > < { ~ :{@}>
<{#}: ~ } >< { ~ :{@}>

Here's my manual in pdf format. Please open the link above
first as there's been some changes to this earlier edition:

http://www.irishdogs.ie/Information/Wits_End_Dog_Training.pdf

From: "Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:22:03 GMT
Subject: Re: How to desensitize VERY sound sensitive dog?

Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm, was to praise
the dog after each clap of thunder, telling him he's
a Good Dog!

This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

The next time it thundered, he did not even react at
all--you could not tell it was the same dog as before.
There was more thunder just the other day, and same
thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no cowering, whimpering,
trying to hide at all, it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem to be
a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-abusive way
of handling dogs WORKS. Wonderfully. Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

==============================


From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.

A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================

Dave Cohen <coh...@total.net writes:
Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of his
business. I simply want to thank him publicly for one
of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry!

===================


"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

"Hoku Beltz" <h...@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message
news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10868114@twister.socal.rr.com...

Aloha Sunny,

Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how
insignificant some of the step seem to be and your puppy will
be a very well behaved dog in a few days.

I would seriously consider backing out of the training
classes as they will conflict with the Wit's End principles.

I went the training route first, and still had problems until
I found Wits' End. Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.

You won't be disappointed if you follow the program.

Good luck,
Hoku

==================

From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

From: Eric
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes. Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather
than beating ass or pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)... Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

==========================

"Zack Pellers" <ZackPell...@GUESSWHERE.cc>
wrote in message
d*.@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
6*.@posting.google.com:

Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.

Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com

You can start by downloading the free training
manual available on the site above. I used it on
my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro.

When I first brought him home from rescue, he
was similar to the way you decribed your dog.

After using Mr. Howe's training method, the dog
was cured within 72 hours.

-Jack

"Estel J. Hines" <ejhi...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com...

Until i read the Jerry method of Bark reductioon,
it went something like this with our 11 month old
puppy "Yoshi"

Yoshi: Bark, bark,

us: HUSH Youshi

Yoshi Bark, bark......................

us: Hush Youshi

Yoshi BARK, BARK, BARK, .................
it stopped when Yoshi got tired barking

We decided to try the Jerry method:

Yoshi: BARK, BARK

US: GOOD Yoshi, Good Boy, who is it?

Yoshi Bark, Bark

US: It's ok, good boy Yoshi, We know them.

Yosh without fail, now stops after we say that.

I must say, it is so much more fun, when we
can praise him, to deal with things like this.

Thanks Jerry

ps: We are just starting to go thru the Jerry
Papers, and learn how to live with our son
"Yoshi", whom we love very much.
--
Best Regards,

Estel J. Hines

==============

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

======================


b*.@gmail.com wrote:
> Well I am happy to reply that so far after 10
> minutes of work and the cans from mr Howes guide,

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> I have instilled the "come" command to Riley.

Good. You mean INSTALLED the come command as
a conditional reflex. Be SHORE to perform the
EXXXORCISES four times in each of four locations.

> He is an extremley smart dog, I have never had
> to go to the third or fourth try.


"Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com...

> Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.

Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
I took a rescued three year old beagle that
had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
even recognize or respond to its name to
Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
get real) and in just over one hour of working
with the dog, he was coming on command
(not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!

> and in all likelihood he's never even been near a dog.

Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him. You don't have
to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.

<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>

Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

-----------------------

To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog! Saw a dog
today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out
of him. Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting. I would
love to write a testimonial but can not seem to find
the site--please send the address--

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sunshine come goodboy.

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================

From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:52:30 -0500
Re: Puppy Wizard's Website

Hi Buzzsaw

Not a Thing to lose ...But a Lot To Gain!!

I can only speak from my experience.. I have a 8 month
old miniature poodle, and although I had done some basic
training with him we had a few barking issues ..ugh

I am happy to tell you, I contacted Jerry at the email
addy I posted and he was so great! I wasn't following
the technique precisely but he helped me get back on track.

Beau is doing sooooo well it is really a thrill working
with him, and seeing the remarkable changes.

Now I can ask for "recall" (come) both on and off lead
and it is immediate!

the first time I ask.

Best of Luck to you,

Remember if you need help or explanation contact Jerry ..
he will be more than happy to help anyway he can.

Cheers
Barb

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM
Hello.

I never posted here (or anywhere) before. I
never trained or owned a dog before this year.

I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.

Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.

I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.

I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.

A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.

We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he isvery eager to accept our love.

So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.

His method worked for us.

I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.

Florence
------------------------------------


"Brandy Kurtz" <KraftyKur...@wmconnect.com wrote in message

Well I just printed out the Amazing Puppy Wizard
info, so I haven't actually started to train yet.

Today a salesman knocked on the door, and Pokey was
going balisstic. I calmly go to the window to see
who it is, and off-handly say Good Boy, It's a
stranger, Good Boy. Pokey shut right up, gave me a
quizical look, and came and sat beside my feet!

OMG, I could not believe it!

I was totally floored, as this has been his behavior
since a pup. Just wanted to update, and Pokey and I
are hitting the sack...;)

Brandy


From: <BNTDO...@aol.com>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training

Hi Jerry,
Send the post to whom ever you wish to. Believe
me I will keep you updated. I got to tell you His
amazing progress almost makes me cry.
Kay Pierce

From: BNTDO...@aol.com
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training is:

Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my
side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay

========================

From: <BNTDO...@aol.com>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>

Cc: <HullCr...@aol.com>; <britp...@yahoo.com>;
<*.@thefelixfamily.com>;
<*.@hotmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter

Dear Jerry,

Just thought I would write to let you know how
well Hunter is doing. He had been trained using
the conventional methods for obedience. He had
gotten used to a choker and a pinch collar.

Alot of pain and a lot of jerking around. I had also
tried using positive reinforcement methods that I
had been trained in. He was so busy looking for
the treat that he didn't really want to work.

So I went back to using the pinch collar on him
and also a gentle leader when we were in public.
Slowly by degrees his behavior got worse and
he did deserve his reputation as a vicious dog.
The vet had recommended that he be put down.
I was in a panic when I found your web site.

Thanks! He is now the happy dog that I first
started out with 5 years ago. I am a professional
trainer and it was distressing to me that I could not
help my own dog. I had been told that some dogs
don't respond to any kind of training and that a
vicious dog can never be trusted again.

I disagree!

Hunter is a sight hound and now I can take him
with me and he doesn't chase cars as much
anymore which is one of his main problems.

We are working on the dog aggression thing.
And I am confident that will be successful too.
I also have your BIOSOUND machine and that
too is working good. I know of several rescue
groups that would benefit from it.

This is rather long I know but it comes from the
heart. My Head Hunter Green and I have together
along time and have been through so much together.

Thank you for helping me save his life.

Kay Pierce

========================

From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -

Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N
=========


Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOS...@no.umn.edu> wrote in message
Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg--


Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p...@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsend...@aol.com

Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.

My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.

When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.

I will write to Amanda about the video.

I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.

Thanks again
Paul

"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis...@\ufffd\ufffdchello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The
F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good!

<snip>

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id 3.html
-- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fo \ufffd\ufffdtografie/doggy-pictures/



"my grandchildren will never ever.. ever.. feel shame or
feel like they're not loved :)." Amanda.

> From: Amanda [mailto:ama...@dcfwatch.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Discipline

> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:47, T__ wrote:

> funny you bring this up... i met the most wonderful
> couple.. man and wife.. he's a dog trainer.. all his
> life who uses a technique that is ONLY praise and
> distraction with some family pack exercises.

> They spent the day with us sunday helping me on
> my two pits... one is a protective/aggressive 20 month
> old female who is my bubby > :) and our 7 week male
> pup. anyway.. not only did i nip any and all aggression
> issues in mere minutes...he and his wife helped me with
> my kids.

> I was and always have been a spanker. It is all i knew
> how.. i never, ever wanted to be.. but i was. my house/kids
> were out of control.. i was always stressed.

> Since he and his wife came down sunday we've had a
> HUGE change... for the first time the kids didn't destroy
> my house before i woke up... my 3yo was in my bed
> coloring waiting for us to wake up... this is the first time
> she ever used paper :) she usually does walls, furniture.

> Anyway.. he told me to use sound/praise.. and it works.
> I have a 6 yo, 3.5 yo who is psycho child :) and a very
> bad-a$$ 19 month old.

> They are all smarter than I am and know it :) There has
> not been a temper tantrum in two days in my house.

> You guys have no idea how great this is. But best of
> all.. this method does NOT use the evil eye or a tone
> of that is in any way short of absolute praise.. no shouting..
> not even a quiet Chloe!.. nada.. ONLY praise.

> They even taught my kids not to take candy unless i say
> so.. (my oldest will literally let you pierce her ears for
candy..
> it's been done twice and i keep taking em out) and now the
> bag of blow pops i forget on the floor in my closet (where we
> keep the girl's dresses) is still there and NO ONE has eaten
> one!

> My 3 yo is even helping me pick up the house.. the baby
> took my lingerie chest apart.. and she cleaned it up! first
> time!

> They don't even go out the open door without my offering it!
> they helped me sort laundry.. clean the living room... im
> amazed.

> The 3 yo got some yogurt from the fridge andwalked to our
> kitchen table, sat down and ate it.. she REFUSES to sit at
> the table and eat! We also taught them and the dogs to sit
> pretty so when they're climbing on my couch.. i go Can you
> show me how you sit pretty??

> and they ALL hop down and show me to sit pretty with their
> feet NOT on the cofee table.. hands friggin folded.. i almost
> fell over..

> thanks for reminding me to share my joy! I'm not a
> spanker! I don't even yell! lol! here i picked names
> that shout well and i don't need em!!!

> > how old is your bub amanda? waht's the bub doing?/

> > Hello again ladies,
> > Amanda, I love your signature. I also do not spank my
> > daughter, however, she is at an age where she really is
> > asserting her independence.

> > Can anyone help with ideas of what I can do? Blessings,
> > T.

Subject: Re Discipline. Also, SLEEP!
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:38:46 -0500
From: Amanda <ama...@dcfwatch.com>

> Can you go into this a little more? How did they
> accomplish all this in one day?

My learning is progressive. I email or call him with
questions. But, i'm getting most of it myself. Something
clicked.

How would we do it with our families?

that is kind of broad.. ask me specifics... or i'd still be
typing when your kids are in college ;)

> I really have problems controlling my temper when I am
> already stressed out and then C__ is hurting me:

Me too.. i was abused... my mom was psycho... and i had
problems with anger.. i took it personally when my 6 yr old
wouldn't clean her room...

i would sometimes cry is was so strung out.. i didn't wanna
spank but i didn't know what to do instead.. so i spanked..
and then spanking didn't work.. and then my dogs went nuts
and i called this trainer and he showed me how to do it.

pulling my hair, scratching me, slapping me, etc.

Mine hit me on purpose alot.. scratching.. climbing on me..
hurting me and then laughing.

Now as I post.. please don't think im trying to be a know it
all.. i simply wanna relay what i have learned... as it is i've
only been spank free for a week now and yell free for two
days (my neighbors two streets over are happy :)

Children, dogs, people.. they do thinks wrong because it
illicits your ultimate attention. Does your 3 year old enjoy
fingerpainting on walls? no... do they enjoy fighting the minute
you pick up the phone?? No.

They *know* they can command your attention.. and that's
what they want. same reason your dogs fight.. they think it
is controlling you.

Your kids want you watching their every move.. making sure
they eat.. dont talk to strangers.. because it means you are
watching THEM and not them watching you as it should be.

they should stay within x feet of you.. because they like
mom and she's cool and she keeps em safe... they
shouldn't run and expect you to chase them.. because
you won't always be there to chase them... that's how
kids die or get lost.

When they learn to follow you.. it's all good.

Now, take my 19 mo old. She had this habit of sipping 4 oz
from her bottle and demanding more. if i didn't refill it.. she
threw a hgue fit. Now she hands me her bottle and says more.. and
i tickle her...

then i pick up her bottle and pretend im drinking it.. i offer
her a drink and snatch it back saying MY Baba!! She wants
that bottle.. so she takes it and drinks it.. even tho i didn't
refill it. we had a huge problem with them taking things they
cant have and when i wanted it they ran... now i give the baby
(19mo) my finger.. and she grabs it.. and i wiggle and shout
My finger! that's mine! Gimme it back.. playfully.. and she
resists.. and i go "Ooh.. can i have it please?" and she gives
it to me and i gleefully say Thank you! and she says you're
welcome.. and i give her the finger back... then i hand her
say a lighter... and we wrestle for a minute.. and i say... can i
have that??? and she gives it over etc. Of course sometimes
she'll have a cool! book! and ill ask can i have that.. and shell
say No. and i say that's ok! and tickle her or snap my fingers
and say good girl naya.. good job..

then ill start my game again and wrestle and try to take it
gently... then.. can i have that??? she gives it over.

this works with everything now.

> Or when he's ripping up my homework or something like
> that.

Yea... with the dog training you hide nothing.. no forced
control. you set the dog up for fail.. so you can distract
and praise and erase the thought.. same with the kids.

Put some unimportant paper all over.. when he goes to
touch it.. make a sound and distract him.. then good
boy, that's a nice baby!... then repeat.. the minute he goes
for the paper and breaks the thgougth you throw him in the
air and praise like mad!

> How would I apply this in those situations? Also, what do
> you do in 'danger' situations (until you're close enough to
> distract them) - climbing on things, sticking metal objects
> into electrical outlets, trying to get into the oven, etc.?

Use your judgement.. if you have the distance/time to
distract... do it.. if you don't... pick them up and away..
but act like it's to throw em in the air.. so they don't know
youre forcing control by phsycially removing them... c

uz when you force control.. with the come command
when you want your dog away from something... or
when you pull a dirty shoe from your baby's mouth..
you put value on it.

Like when your kid puts a penny in its mouth.. youll try to
pry its mouth open to get it... and he'll clamp right down..
you gave that penny VALUE! it's not just a piece of crap..
mom WANTS IT!

so.. instead you make a game.. say you want em to smit it
out... walk somewhere else... attract their attention.. be
kinda sneaky... odds are the thing in their mought will get
annoying and they'll spit it out when they walk toward you...
if all else fails.. pry it outta their smiling jaws... snatch em
up away from falling down... but only when you have
to.. then work realy hard to overcome that forced control.

Also don't make a big deal about it.. or else theyll learn not
only to command your attention, but also mom will always
catch me so she is watching me.. not me watching her.

> I never realized how spirited C__ was until I started
> tending other kids.

those are my kids. I have had social workers with their
degrees in child development stop offering me services
cuz they couldn't handle my kids... my friends call mine
the obstinate kids.

> They're docile kittens compared to C__! This brings
> up another question - what do you do when YOUR
> child is the bully?

if you catch it before it happens.. loud sound.. big
distraction and PRAISE. if you catch it afterward...
distract and say oh my goodness! and pay attention
to the other kid... he wont get the attention... then
explain how that hurts. odds are your kid won't hurt
another kid if he truly understands its not nice.

> C__ is always beating the other boy over the head
> when he comes over. We don't hit in anger in our family

i have.. everyone does in my family... i did it a few times
over 4 years... but that is because i didn't know how not to.
i know now.. and i wanna tell everyone i can.. so someone
else doesn't spank their kids due to a lack of knowledge.

> (we do it playfully sometimes, so we are curtailing that
> in case it is giving him ideas)

my kids, 6yo, 3yo and 19 month old, favorite game is
chasing around the house (all 4 of us) with wooden
spools yelling at the top of our lungs "I'm gonna beat
your a$$.. HA HA HA... no IM gonna beat YOUR
a$$ MU HA HA HA" my neighbors prolly think im nuts..
but the kids love it dog even plays too

> but I admit that after I have been trying to get him to go
> to sleep for 45 minutes, I get a little rough sometimes.
> It's really frustrating. He'll be dead tired - eyes bright
> red, fussy, eyes almost closing every 5 seconds.

It gets worse... they all do it around that time.. they don't
want to sleep.. andyou know what? they don't grow out
of it until they're parents :) it's one of those times you
have to use your patience and keep distracting and praising.

> So I'll take him into the bedroom, and lay down to nurse
> him. He'll nurse for about 5 seconds and then jump up
> and run to the window and start bending the blinds.

he wants you upset.. he wants your undivided attention. you
have to refuse it.. no evil eye.. no "conner" quiet or not.. no
anger.. complete nonchalance.. they have to have a total complete
entire lack fo negative attention.. and all they'll
be able to do is sit back and enjoy the positive!

One shout.. one name call.. one No! and it takes awhile to
work up to the positive only.

> So I gently pick him up and lay him back down.

try not to.. but if you have to ok

> And we repeat the process over 10000 times.

when he goes to sit up.. when yous see the thought on his
face.. distract with sound and follow with praise or a song or
giggle.

> Then I get frustrated and lay him down less gently.

better than my method of plop em in the crib and let em cry.
No anger.. stay calm.. meditate, pray.. breath.. try to
remember they will not always be this small.. and youll
never, ever for anything get it back. it's what im using

> That makes him cry, which is the last straw that
> FINALLY gets him to nurse to sleep.

He got you riled up.. what he wanted.. time to sleep.

> Writing it out, I thought of something. He must have a
> lot of excess tension he needs to release before sleeping,
> and finally crying releases it for him.

no way... crying isn't a release.. sometimes.. maybe for
some people.. crying is frustration, pain, hunger, sadness...
sometimes joy.. sometimes tension.. but not because of his
life.. because he's insecure... their dealing with negative and
positive.. and thats what makes em insecure.

> Any good ways to do this that don't involve crying?

distraction and praise.. if all else fails get up and dance..
fast for day.. slow rocking at night.

> Turning on soft music and swaying in the sling used to
> work for us, but now he either grabs at everything he can
> reach or bends over backwards until he's hanging upside
> down.

cuzhe knows what you're doing. hold him instead.. or
sit him in your lap on the bed and rock

> Putting the sling over his shoulders to prevent that
> doesn't work either. He acts like he is being tortured
> and screams and fights to get out.

becuase it is forced control.

> Katie

Amanda
-----------------

From: Amanda@DCFWatch.com (Ama...@dcfwatch.com)

Subject: Re: we're so frigging happy and calm.. thank you
thank you thank you thank you thank you!

Re: [Jerry] Re: Please, discontinue discussions
with our dog abusers...NINNYBOY
Date: 2003-01-13 06:20:45 PST

> > Kelly jumped on thebed..

> For SHORE. We didn't finish her with that cause she
> didn't get up there while we were togethers. So now's
> your opportunity to D/P that next attempt.

Yup.. we did. She did get on it once in the middle of the
night.. but i woke up.. and did the d/p while walking out
of the room and outstanding praise when she complied.
She's got it :)

> Good. Now you got to catch her just startin to jump and
> you'll break that urge FAST.

That's tricky.. but we'll set it up today :)

> No. What scared her was her GUILT. She THOUGHT
> SHE WAS BAD. That's NOT GOOD. If your praise was
> RIGHT just after she "got scared,"

> you're in good shape cause she won't have anxiety over it.
> That will bear watching and be prepared to follow through
> with the ALTERNATE sound if she ever tries the high chair
> dining again...

She went to her spot.. under the kids bed.. and i did the
come/praise and she came right out and we did some
lovin... i think she's just all sorts of confused.. this is
brand new.. although familiar with d/p.. she's not used
to me GETTIN it PERFECT

> You could set up some food on the high chair and just
> break her of thinkin of taking ANYTHING unless it's
> given or dropped, and you DID say you don't want them
> scrambling for droppins from the kids till YOU are SHORE
> that's what you want WHOM to have WHAT.

We'll set that up today too. But i think she got it
yesterday.. lol.

> You should have a grasp of the intricacies.

I think i do.. do you think i do?

> Not bad for about fifteen minutes of feeding together and
> maybe eight D/P's, correct me if I'm wrong.

I was so nervous i wouldn't know. Not anymore :)

> Perhaps, but The Puppy Wizard likes to jump in with both
> feet..., unlike mike d, who's "a straight leg..." That's between

> The Puppy Wizard and hisself, he knows.

> BWWWAAAAHAJAJJAJAJAAA!!!

So let them approach eachother? i'm worried about a bite
getting in before i see the build up.. and im worried about
d/ping when there isn't going to be a bite.. make sense?

> > But.. naya grabbed some dog food from the pantry..

> That's the 3 y.o. daughter. I'm awful with names...

That's the baby.

> > and we found her feeding moo AND kelly side by side with
> > kelly cleaning up the crumbs under moo without problem.

> "Bless the Beast and the Children."

Lol... they're one and the same! lol

> Well, HOWE do you know THEY didn't take if from The
> Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
> Method manual???

> Everybody ELSE did, they're welcome, they shoulda
> asked permission, but it's OK, I'll get over it, like mikey sez:

It was the 19 month old.. so we'll work on them with that
today.

> "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh
> And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The
> First Few Times It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike
> duforth, author: "Courteous Canine."

Not in my house!

> The Puppy Wizard didn't follow the instructions. HE didn't
> spray in mikeys mouth first, to DEMON-STRAIGHT for him...
> Just did, HOWEver. NO PROBLEMO.

> > i caught jasmine yelling MOOOVE! and i nicely said
> > Jaaasmine... and she shouts GOOD GIRL CHLOE
> > GOOD GIRL! lol.

> Chloe is the 6yo child, I think.

CHloe is the 3yo.. jasmine is the 6yo

> > the kids sat down.. ate thier dinner..

> Like The Puppy Wizard's Kids all do.

Was a first in this house!

Dinner usually consists of me running around making sure
dinner is not on the walls and the baby isn't dive bombing
from her high chair!

> > Naya didn't climb from her high chair...

> Yeah, The Puppy Wizard has a tendency to calm folks and
> make them verry verry HAPPY or VERRRY VERRRY SADLY...

Nope.. we're calm and happy :)

> Day or two it'll be second nature to each of you

I think i'm getting there.. i felt by the last hour when i was
d/ping while you spoke i was getting it. like slow motion..
i could see everyone going for something and i was just
getting it all out in perfect timing... with the kids too.. by
the end of the night we had moo sleeping with kelly on
the floor.. first time ever.. we praised him out of howling..
and we actually slept great!

> > my timing is kicking ass too...

> WONS YOU GOT IT DOWN PAT, YOU WON'T
> NEED IT BUT RARELY.

i think we'll have it awhile.. certain things i wanna break..
running out the door.. front door... etc

> > i'm catching them in all the right places.

> INDEED. You'll break every area of concern and the
> pups will have EXXXCELLLENTE behavior in a couple
> HOWERS... maybe less.

Yup.. we set kelly up for the pizza delivery man last night.
she barked and we did sound/distraction... she left the front
door altogether when chris called her.. first time for that
too.

> Train them to WON spot for a few days then send them off
> lead and direct them if they stray from the route and follow
> through a few times and that's the end of that.

Sounds good to me!

> You can't say that enough. Don't let me interfere....
> continue, please.

Lol.. well i don't think i can say it enough either.

> > btw.. your pics are all up.

> Gonna crash the whole wild goddamned WWW.

You want me to give out the link to all of the pics??

> Yeah... kick my feet up for a while, maybe spend a day with
> The Puppy Wizard's Mrs. and HIS puppys... now that the
> STATE of The ART has been RIGHTED.

Yup... it will be a month or two for the card.. between busy
and shopping for the right card at the right price... but we
can have the tape done i think easy.

> > thank you thank you thank you.

> You CANNOT FLATTER The Puppy Wizard ENOUGH.
> PLEASE TRY HARDER. The Puppy Wizard reveres a
> DEDICATED STUDENT.

lol... watch out... we might build a statue in the park!

> > of course don't forget mrs. puppy wizard.

> The Puppy Wizard would be nothing without HIS Mrs. Puppy
> Wizard. She pulls all the strings, HE just sets there stark
> raven nekkid takin all the goddamned CREDIT for it for
> HIMSELF.

She's so cool about it though :)

> > my grandchildren will never ever.. ever.. feel shame or
> > feel like they're not loved :).

> Yeah... and that's the BEST PART, and the PRICE is FREE.

Yup :)

> > I won't stop till everyone is doing it too :)

> The Puppy Wizard thought you'd see things HIS WON WAY.

> The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ ) >

I always did.. i just needed to check my vision :)

Amanda.


Punishment Deranges Behavior.
"NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
EXCEPT
To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.\ufffd),

--Marshall

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<*.@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent\ufffd,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts \ufffdto
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer


Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.

'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

> Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
> Date: 02/05/1999
> Author: Robert Crim <fritzg...@earthlink.net>
> You filthy, unctuous, no good charlatan. If you had
> any idea of what dogs and dog people were about
> you would realize the depths of the absolute loathing
> and contempt I hold for you right now. Were it not
> for the blessed distance and anonymity that the internet
> gives us from the scummy likes of you, I would probably
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of shit you really are

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

=====================

> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

> Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy, "you
insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology


From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:26:31 GMT

Subject: Dr. George VonHilshimer Writes:
"No Loving, No Learning."

HOWEDY People,

Perhaps the PROBLEM is "TOO MANY WORDS?"

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop

> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop
> > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
> > > > > all the time, would send up "red flag" to you
> > > > > and others, but the fact remains, if a technique
> > > > > *doesn't* work 100% of the time, with all dogs,
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.

> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.

> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that
> > > leap.

> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.

> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:

Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.

> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.

This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.

Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;

Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;

Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;

The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;

Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .

There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.

I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.

NO PUNISHMENT.

Must pay attention to who is the animal?

His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.

I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than
the methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.

Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.

Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.

You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.

Fondly, Dr. Von

Larry is a scientist who studied various training
methods and spoke personally with as many of the
best trainers and behaviorists he could find,
including the wonderful but little known Dr. Dare
Miller:

From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry


"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME The
Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
professional trainer, 30 years experience.

Date: 2001-11-14 09:13:21 PST

"Yves Dussault" <ydussa...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3b1110ff.3798143@news1.on.sympatico.ca...

> Hi!
> I have downloaded Wit's End Dog Training Method...
> In there there is that trick with a toy about "Separation
> anxiety surrogate toy technique."
> Anybody has tried that... I would like to give it a try with
> my GSP (German shorthair.....pointer)
> Comments? Yves Dussault

Yves,

I for one have tried it... in fact I use this all the time. I
just used it last evening while my husband and I went
out to see "The Mummy Returns" (a horrible turkey of
a movie, but at least the house wasn't chewed from
end to end in the meantime).

Yes, it really works. :-) So do the other
distraction/praise techniques described therein.

If you are interested in the manual, you will
probably want to begin the exercises as well.

Regards,
Lisa

From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
>
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

"*.@DCFWatch.com" wrote:

No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull. She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.

Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..

she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.

Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing. I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.

I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.

I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..

we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.

She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty. So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.

One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.

two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.

And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..

actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.

She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people. she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.

She also does her commands on cue.. and doesn't look for a treat.


"Anthony Testa" <testa52...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c603fe9c.0203260607.77c283ce@posting.google.com...

I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year ago with
my lovely wife

snip horror story >

Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know it all of
pets. His response to the exact letter we initially wrote to
Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her back" I'll save this person
embarrassment by not saying the name. However, you know who you are
and I have this to say to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
sir, do not belong working with animals!

Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news group, I can't
for the life of me understand why this many people are so dang blind
or ignorant.

You just keep plugging away at what you do, because you my friend are
a life saver!!!

Anytime you need someone to speak about the results of your product,
you have my number. We would gladly talk to them.

Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...

Anthony & Linda Testa
Jacksonville, Florida

==============

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
news:

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."

*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!

Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

================================

From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

----------------------------------


From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point at the
mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the house
or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help. You've been a
blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

===================

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@yahoo.com):


I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be left home alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better. We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the
acting out to get NEGATIVE attention from
one another since we weren't getting
the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot
of blame that we have to accept, but once we
realize that we've caused these problems to
arise, we can strive to make things better.

AIMEE


From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:29:04 GMT
Subject: Re: House training and such...

HOWEDY culprit,

"culprit" <culp...@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:bm30da$hmbrc$1@ID-58739.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "ke.ver" <Koen.Verhe...@pandora.be> wrote in message
> news:kp7hb.67308$4m5.3401758@phobos.telenet-ops.be...

> > aimee , i don't quite understand : when the dog > pees or poops
> you tell the dog first what's that > and then you tell him good boy
> , you're a good dog ; > what kind of training manual is TPW ?

> > i don't see how this can help the dog ( and you )

> i think "aimee" is an alias for our resident troll, who tries to
> push his "training method" on people. i wouldn't worry too much
> about her. -kelly


HOWEDY kelly,

"culprit" <culpri...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:bl22ho$76rdi$1@ID-58739.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "AIMEE" <countrygirl0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1afc3ce9.0309260757.5f5908ae@posting.google.com... > We had
> fallen into a rut - constant bickering and > tension, we never
> laughed or had FUN together - > but now, with the same mindset used
> in THE PUPPY > WIZARDS dog training, our communications channels >
> have opened, and we now work together instead of > against one
> another. TPW saved your marriage?

INDEEDY.

> kick ass!

The Puppy Wizard doesn't approve of violence.

> that's a new one, innit?

NOT AT ALL, kelly.

> we better add that to the list of magical things the wiz can do!

INDEEDY.

> train all dogs perfectly, in minutes.

GUARANTEED.

> prevent seizures.

DONE THAT.

> make children behave better.

GUARANTEED.

> save bad marriages.

DONE THAT.

> am i missing anything?

INDEEDY. You're missing HUMAN DECENCY,
MORALS, ETHICS, PRINCIPLES, and ALL REASON.

> -kelly

And that ain't all The Puppy Wizard SPECIALIZES in, kelly.

> not really in need of saving, thanks.

NO PROBLEMO! You're inscribed in the book
of eternal death. You're a liar and a dog abuser
and a MENTAL CASE.

lyingdogDUMMY wrote:
> Well, the newest shill on the scene must be Michael, because Jerry
> couldn't possibly spell "literalists."

Your reply doesn't even pertain to the subject...

Why don't we discuss why you feel you need hurt
animals to "train" them?

I've actually met TPW. I called him a few times with
questions about the training method, and he realized
that there were some underlying problems. Axel (my dog)
had a special situation. So, TPW met with us in our home.
The first thing he noticed was that Axel's collar was too tight.
We loosened it, and immediately Axel calmed down quite a bit.

We went outside and worked on the HOT AND COLD
HANDLING EXERCISE and THE FAMILY PACK
LEADERSHIP EXERCIZE. That seemed to get us
headed in the right direction, but we were still having
a few problems with Axel's anxiety.

The main reason TPW visited our home - I found this
our recently during one of our conversations- was to
see how my husband and I interacted with one another.

I had been following the methods precisely, but Axel
was still having difficulty.

TPW's assumptions were correct - we were causing
alot of Axel's anxiety with our arguments and tension.
TPW told me that Axel has been one of his most difficult
dogs to work with.

Axel had his anxieties from mishandling and
from my husband and myself.

We had a few problems because I was unwilling to
accept the fact that I needed to be "nice" eventhough
I wasn't being treated "nicely", but once I realized that
was the only way I could really get Axel past his anxiety,
I worked on being a loving wife (eventhough I didn't really
want to be).

AND GUESS WHAT? My husband saw the difference,
and he followed suit. Now, we have a stress free dog,
and a good marriage.

Can you tell me how forcing someone (dog, person, cat)
to do what YOU want them to do, is going to improve a
situation? I tried that with my husband and with my dog,
and it didn't work with either of them.

Your methods have an 85% success rate - and my
dog was one of the 15% that doesn't accept your methods.

TPW has 100% success rate. You do the math.

If TPW hadn't helped us, Axel wouldn't be where he is today.

============================

Subject: Ask The Puppy Wizard

HOWEDY Aimee,

> my husband believes that this product is like ecstasy.

Well, for ME it IS... it's a dream come true. I got to ask
the Mrs. to keep pinchin me to believe it myself. My
DDR works like an AUTOMAGICK bio feeback trainer.
It uses a gentle sound, a beat, to entrain the brain,
like as if you was humming your favorite song. When
the critter is faced with a stressor, he AUTOMAGICKALLY
reflexes to that comfortable state of mind, to "hide"
from his fears. With repetition, the fears are "collapsed"
or over ridden, by the pleasant "tune."

There's a child psychologist currently testin DDR on
his hyperactive and learning disabled patients.

> Will this product in any way harm my dog?

Absolutely not. I've tested it on HUNDREDS of dogs
and kats whom I've known well and closely observed
over many years before offering my DDR for sale. It's
giving me better reports from users than I'd ever
imagined possible. It even stops cows from "bellowing."

> He has a severe anxiety disorder and cannot be left alone in our
> apartment -whether in his crate or left to roam free.

O.K., that's the problem! The crate in itself causes fear in
a twofold manner. Many dogs fear the crate because they
can't go to relieve themselves or have water, or become
anxious because it's a safe haven, a refuge he can run to
in order to hide from THINGS that scare him, like loud
noises, guests, whatever. Every minute he spends hiding
in there, increases his fears about what's goin on.

With repetition, just entering the crate even willingly,
restimulates ALL his fears, even when he goes in of
his on volition for no particular reason.

> We have tried just about everything...

Well, you just got LUCKY. I've got a comprehensive manual
available for free on my website. STUDY IT. Do the exercises,
and ask me for help if you've got questions or have difficulty.
Follow the method EXACTLY, don't vary, and ask me for help
FAST, if you don't get 100% success, nearly instantly.

There's absolutely NO reason your dog should have to
suffer separation anxiety for more than two days.

> This is our last resort.

First thing you've got to do is teach him your HOWES is his
HOWES, and that no matter what, you'll never be cross with
him.

That'll give him the confidence to stay alone withHOWET
supervision. Separation anxiety has nothing to do with
your absences, it's got to do with not having his controller
in charge of his behavior.

> Until we find some way to train him,

You just did. My tiny manual has ALL the information you need
to bring your dog to any level of proficiency in any field you
desire.

> he is living with my parents.

Good. Take a couple of days to study and practice the techniques
withHOWET your pup, then go pick him up and DO the exercises
in a couple of locations on your way back to your HOWES.

> Will this product help me get my Axel back?

The method and the machine both rely on constant praise.
The machine does a much more thorough job of convincing
the dog everything is O.K. It'll usually calm any anxious
outbursts in maybe as little as five seconds, for a dog that's
been conditioned to it for a few days. After a few months of
use, you'll not need to use it except on occasion.

I'd give you more info about the machine, but you got
enough reading ahead of you in my manual. Just rest
assured that if you desire the very best for you dog my
DDR machine will do just that. It's money back satisfaction
guaranteed forever cause there ain't nuthin better than it
in the Whole Wild World. You and your pets will LOVE it!

But start the manual first, cause that's gonna break the
cause of his anxiety.

Yours, Jerry.

"Katra" <K...@centurytel.net wrote in message
news:
3EEEAC89.3D837__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z__@centurytel.net...

Ok, so I care for an unusually large number of cats...
And when you have this many, there are behavior
problems. Not due to crowding, but some cats are
territorial by nature.

I checked out Jerry's site and found the science behind
the BIOSOUND box to be sound. (no pun intended <G)
I am familiar with the concept of using sound therapy
from my studies on deep meditation and had experimented
with it already.

So, I bought one.

Results?

The cats now sleep thru the night instead
of spatting at 3 a.m.

Taz, my brain damaged kitty, no longer wanders up the
hall in the middle of the night, yowling when he gets "lost".
(He's not the brightest bannana in the bunch. ;-) )

He's been sleeping quietly at my feet now for the past 3
nights I left the box running. He suffered a severe head
injury as a kitten when he got hit by a car. That is how I
got him. I picked him up out of the middle of the highway. :-(

Thank the gods for good vets...

Feeding frenzy time, when I dole out the canned food,
used to be fraught with the more dominant kitties hissing
at the undercats to get the best place at mom's feet. They
always settled down once the food dishes were down, but
now there has been NO fighting!

They have been more obedient about staying off the
sink and the dining room table, and, whomever it was
that kept pooping in FRONT of the litter box on the floor
has quit!

Yay! I never did catch who was doing it.

Overall, much calmer behavior from the cats.

As for the dogs, the jury is still out on them. The
shelties seem unaffected but it's impossible to
tell with them as they were already calm, sedate,
obedient and well trained dogs.

With hyper Jewely, well, tonight she did not try to jump
on me when I let her out of the bedroom to go potty, and
she calmly sat at the door waiting to be let out instead of
getting all anxious. I have not really tried serious training
with her indoors near the box yet, except once, but not for
long enough to see if it'd really work.

Since some of the usual training methods are not working
with her on the jumping problem, I plan to give Jerry's method
a fair shake. The one time I tried it, yeah, she piddled, but I
think that's because I did not do it right. I spoke with Jerry
further by e-mail and I was not supposed to jump straight in
to working on a specific behavior problem. I need to to the
pre-training excercizes first!

I'll post later on the results when I have more time
to really concentrate on working with her near the box.

In the meantime, the box DOES seem to calm the
animals and make it easier to work with them. The
results alone on the cats have made it worth every
penny. And if it can increase Jewely's attention span........ ;-)

Leah might want to try one on Maddie? <shrugs

He may be hostile on the list, but he IS honest and
honors his money back guarantees, so you won't be
out anything if you just decide to try it like I did!

Katra

=============================


From: Ama...@DCFWatch.com (Ama...@dcfwatch.com)
Subject: Can we get specific about doggydoright without rancor?
Date: 2003-01-13 08:00:29 PST


"Donna" <raindancer...@SPAMBLOCKyahoo.\ufffdcom> wrote in message
<news:MuwU9.10110$R16.6984@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...

> Just a question... Got Jerry on kill-file too, but what is this
> "doggiedoright" thing??? Donna


It's a smallish box with ac adapter. It emits a "song". A sound
unheard by the tympanic membrane. It regulates brain waves
and calms the subject down. I got mine yesterday.

I have two pitties, my neighbor on one side has an infant pitty
and the other neighbor on my left has a pitty mix, greyhound
and pig. Her dogs bark CONSTANTLY!

All hours of the night.. she lets em out for last call around 1am.
We put ours on our kicthen window sill so the animals outside
and inside can hear it. Anyway.. for the first time my dogs slept
peacefully.

I also did some training with jerry and hise wife yesterday,
between that and the machine my dogs ignored the dogs barking.
A mere quiet growl from my oldest dog, a good girl good job! and
she went back to sleep.. an abolsolute first in this house.

My nieghbors dogs continued barking.. the machine was
not set to play.. so i reset it.. and they shut right up.

The whole nieghborhood was quiet for the first time.

Neighbors dogs are still behaving today.

I will be loaning it to my father in two weeks, once my dogs
remember the "song" and can learn to replay it to themselves
to calm themselves down, for his cockatiel who is home alone
alot.. and very bitchy.

I will also be buying one for my mom for her feuding kitty cats.
And finally I will be buying one for my friend who has two dogs
and a child with major seizure problems. I think this device will
help her daughters seizures since it controls and regulates brain
waves.

Since i'm not rich.. and these machines are $135 with shipping ...
when i say I am planning on buying three of them for friends.. you
know it works. I could always let them borrow it for free.. but
this machine is so kickass.. they need their own so their
neighbors dogs can be happy too.

================

And here's my machine curing seizures:

Jerry says:
howe's the baby's seizures?

parentadlitem says:
better

Jerry says:
got any idea how much better?

parentadlitem says:
not really

parentadlitem says:
she doesn't do em here that i see

Jerry says:
amazing

Jerry says:
when's the last time she seized with you?

parentadlitem says:
weeks ago?

Jerry says:
but before the machine it was daily?

parentadlitem says:
every minute!

Jerry says:
does her mom use it at her howes?

parentadlitem says:
yup

parentadlitem says:
i yelled at her about it

Jerry says:
ask her when's the last time she saw a seizure for me

parentadlitem says:
k . she's sleepin now, ill talk to her tonight, she's comin over

Jerry says:
yeah... that's pretty good stuff

parentadlitem says:
yup

parentadlitem says:
i love mine

parentadlitem says:
no barkin the nieghborhood at all anymore

parentadlitem says:
ever

Jerry says:
right

parentadlitem says:
once in a blue moon some distant dog will bark

parentadlitem says:
but all the neighbors dogs are quiet

Jerry says:
when you hear that distant dog throw the machin on

parentadlitem says:
we do

parentadlitem says:
it's really rare though

=================


Here's a letter from the President of Pet Rescue,
animal commissioner of Brevard Co FL, and board
member of space cats dot com.

Hi Jerry,

I received email from Mark Shaw on 10/6 which I just read today.
Sorry I didn't have time to get to it sooner. We have had a lot
going on in our area concerning animals. We formed a new Task
Force to address spay/neuter, pet overpopulation and animal
abuse. I needed to do a lot of research before the first meeting
and time was just not available for anything else.

Anyway the letter went on to say that we are in collusion, I tried
to defraud him, and have sent none of the materials that he has
asked for although he has yet to furnish the P.O. Box number that
he wanted them sent to in the first place. He goes on to state that
I am no longer eligible for the "fictions reward." All of this is in
answer to postings that prove I was "sharing" his email with you
which in his opinion was a breach of good manners. His email only
had terms and conditions of the reward which I would consider
"public information."

Be that as it may, I would like to state that you had my permission
to post any email I have sent you regarding DDR including this
email.

I'm very sorry that you have to put up with this type of situation
from someone that obviously never intended to make good on his
reward offer in the first place.

I had a call from a friend of mine with a very aggressive cat. I
have loaned her my DDR for a few weeks to see if it will calm JR
down. I will let you know the results. She goes to the same holistic
vet that I go to and he is also interested.

In case Mark does post to the list again I would like to say that I
do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it has helped
my dogs and cats. I have entirely too much to do, to worry about his
opinions or reward.

The only reason I was willing to apply for the reward was on your
behalf as I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with
aggression and other behavior problems.

I am in Feral Cat Network (we spay and neuter approximately 100
feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog
obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of
Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of
Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from
AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.).

I listed these not to be on an ego trip but to let Mark know that I
am involved with animals and have very little time to play games
with him also I would not recommend your product if I did not
believe in it.

Please feel free to post this email as it has no copyright on it as
did Mark Shaw's last email to me.

Take care Jerry and don't let the Mark's of the world get you down.

Elaine

Thank you, Elaine. I have been trying to educate the mark's of this
world, with some occasional successes. I guess that's variable
reinforcement?

Yours, Jerry.

Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue writes: Sep 9,
2000

"I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful and
the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right does
indeed exist.

I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
but our cats and even us.

She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.

It is not just my opinion that all this aggression existed
before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by three vets
to euthanize her.

I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
has helped my dogs and cats. I do think your product is a
valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior
problems.

I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter approximately
100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC
dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club,
president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for
Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county
commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat
club, assistant County manager, head of animal control,
director of two different shelters, etc.).

Thanks, Elaine,

Hi Jerry,

I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have since
borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very
highly of it.

So, I brought it home and plugged it in. Of course, I
wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have every
one immediately fall to the floor in little comas for a few
hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be quiet, still no
comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds at that point. So,
I gave it a little longer. Still no comas. Was this really
going to work? I mean, I do have an unusual situation.

So, by bedtime, a few hours later. I started to notice just
how many were asleep already - with their feet in the air! I
started to have hope. During the night, all was calm. In the
morning when I got up, only a few of them WALKED quietly
to the door to go out. Not the usual evacuation.

I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect. I
wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters had
resurfaced. I wondered if I could break into Elaine's house
and if she would notice :)

I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues
Beagles. She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house. God
bless her. She is interested to see if it will work for her. I
also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue, and
she is interested. The cat rescue people have monthly
meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.

So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
about the best way to use it in my case, I would appreciate
it. I of course wanted to keep it on the highest setting, but
don't know if that is advised, even with my situation of so
many new ones coming and (too few) going.

Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc.
I think the vets should have the info in their offices.

It must help dogs with separation anxiety. My vet
practices homeopathic as well as traditional medicine,
so I would think it would be right up her alley.

Thank you.
Desiree M Webber
A New Leash On Life


"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6786-3C0E896C-19@storefull-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

Thanks Tricia9999, that was an interesting read!
Course my little gray box seems to be working...
Buddy stopped biting the baby! No negative side-
effects seen occurring...not to the bird, the other
bird or Zelda. ~misty


"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message
news: 16990-3CAB1F8__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_
MASK_i?a63jfAD$z__@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do
know she's not here with us. I really can't blame
anyone here for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because
of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the
idea that my using a shock collar could have any
bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had been
keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my
concern became how to keep them from running
off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled
in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world
now <g> A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely
housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard,
and doesn't bark all the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

=====================


misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
come back in the yard and would run for days. The last
time, Peach didn't come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
train my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes
each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She
no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular
fence then you need to train your dog. I will never
rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in our
yard again. The price was too high:-(

~misty

Dear Jerry-

I just wanted to let you know how wonderful your Doggy Do
Right product is. I was skeptical at first, but have been
tremendously pleased.

As you know, we had a neighbor's dog that was extremely
bothersome, at times barking loudly for 3 hours straight.
Within a few days, the barking decreased, and now it is just
the occasional bark. this dog lives approximately 500 feet
away, and even at that distance, the machine has done wonders.

You were always available and patient to answer my
questions, and now I can be in my own home without going
nuts from the barking. As an added pleasure, all the other
minor barking nuisances in the neighborhood have stopped
as well.

Quiet is wonderful! Thank you.

Pam Graves

From: 2tails (wagginta...@hotmail.com)
Subject: My Experience with the Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will Too)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior

Date: 2001-07-04 20:45:19 PST

After using Jerry's training manual, I became curious
about the Doggy Do Right (DDR) machine, and a few weeks
ago I received one.

I thought the group might be interested in some things
I've noticed since using it. (This is a bit of an
understatement as I certainly expect a flurry of responses...
most of them will probably be nasty.

But we'll see.)

Anyway, at first I would leave it on only when I left the
house, but one day I forgot and left it on all night. My
dogs used to wake me up between 8 and 8:30 a.m. The morning
after I left it on all night, they slept until 9:30 a.m.

At first I wondered why they had slept in so
late, and then I noticed that the DDR was on.

(And no, I'm not an early riser.) :-)

Now they consistently sleep until 9:30 or 10:00 a.m.,
unless I wake them up earlier. One night the power
went out, and the DDR was switched off. They woke me
around 8:30 that day.

The second thing was something my husband noticed.
If the light on the DDR is flashing, it is in "rest"
mode... when it's solid, it is playing the program.
He came home, the dogs were doing their usual growl
and "bitey face" rowdiness... when the machine's light
became solid (programon), they laid down in the same
room with the machine.

Pepper even laid on her side and started taking a little nap.

Often, I will see the dogs in the room with the DDR when
the program is playing, usually around their nap time.
That is, they will nap in the same room as the machine
and not in other areas of the house... even though their
"preferred" sleeping spot at other times seems to be my
bed.

The last two things I've noticed have been with my 7 yr
old Dalmatian, Beau. He is normally terrified of thunderstorms,
so much that he will try to crawl into my lap, or he will
shake and shed hair everywhere.

(Shedding hair is a symptom of stress I suppose... he does
the same thing at the vet's.)

On Sunday, we had a really severe thunderstorm, with hail,
etc. When the storm began, I turned the machine to play mode.
He laid on the floor next to where I was sitting. He still
didn't want to let me get out of his sight, but his behavior
was much improved from earlier episodes.

The last thing has to do with Beau and the vacuum cleaner.
The surest way for me to clear him out of a room used to
be for me to start vacuuming. He'd race into another room
and hide. Now, he will stay in the same room. He's still
wary of it, and leaves his "escape route" open, but he will
stay in the same room while I'm using it, something he's
never done before.

I've done no training to address these issues, but since
using the DDR for approximately three weeks, these are
some of the calmer behaviors that I've noticed.

As I said, I'm sure this will create a storm. May I say
in advance, that only polite posts will be considered for
a response by me.

Regards, Lisa

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21047-3CAD0E8A-173@storefull-2291.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> Jerry sent me the DDR when I mentioned my cockatoo was stressed
out by
> my then just learning to walk baby.

> Buddy was screaming day and night..lunging at Joey whenever he
crawled
> up to Buddy's cage and nipping the baby ( if Buddy wanted to his
beak
> is powerful enough to sever an adult's finger in one snap!)

> At first we noticed nothing... after a few days
..nothing..nothing
> except quiet :-)

> That's not to say Buddy never screams.. heh.. he'a a 'Too.. but
the
> late night scream-a-thons ended.

> He also tolerates Joey playing in his water dish <sigh> just
what I
> want...2 splashers! Buddy loves to bathe in his water until
there's
> more water on the floor and walls than in his dish :-)

> Twice now Buddy has had marathon scream-a-thons... for a few
days
> each time. It takes that long for me to realize the DDR is
unplugged
:-O
> Once cos DH did some maintenance and forgot to plug it back in
( of
> course he remembered to plug the washing machine back in ;-P)

> The second time I had unplugged it while sweeping...and forgot
to
> plug it back in...

> We sure enjoy him being such a good bird! He's been so loving
to
> everyone... my older 2 boys love being able to give him
scritches
> again.

> ~misty

> (No, Jerry, you can't have the DDR back just yet! :-)

===================

"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news:
1199-3BD34D6A-229@storefull-235.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I
have a very loud cockatoo who has been having problems
adjusting to my 8 month old son.

Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy's cage
as a hold on for dear life object.

Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older
two boys went through this stage in a different house where
Buddy had his own room and the boys had only visits,
daily contact 24/7.

Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has
been driving him nuts! He showed his disapproval by non-stop
screaming. A cockatoo scream can be heard a block away with
all the widows shut <g being in the house it makes your ears
pop and your nerves crawl.

Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to
use it. He answered my questions quite politely.

I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is
located~ teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks.

At first I noticed no difference in Buddy's behavior. Then
I realized after a week that he no longer screamed for hours
on end. This isn't to say he stopped completely <bg he still
demands his share of all meals. But he doesn't start screaming
at 10 pm when he wants _everyone_ to go to bed.

Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My nerves
were frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per Jerry's
instructions. I discovered the DDR was shut off! I turned it
back on and left it on the lowest setting. Buddy calmed back
down and quit screaming.

In the time that I've had the DDR on I've had a lot of c*ts
come to my house. One I adopted and he's quite the sweetie.
He's a yellow tiger named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who
is very friendly with my kids and Zelda.

I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like
the methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like things
that are free. I also like the fact that I can e-mail him and
get advice whenever I need it.

Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the
DDR is working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in electronics,
knows alot about radios and anything mechanical... he's a
jack of all trades around the house <g). He does NDT for a
living.

We don't expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey is
walking, Buddy will realize that he's not a strange animal..
some kind of furless dog or c*t <bg.

So, yes, there are some of us out here who do appreciate
Jerry's methods if not his condemnation of other "regulars".

Honey, flies that sort of thing....

~misty


All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.

What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George

If you've got them by the balls
their hearts and minds
will follow,"
John Wayne.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ } >


Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Animal Behavior Forensic
Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092



A*@HushMail.Com
2005-10-12 17:03:13 EST
HOWEDY imda

i*.@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a 17 week old Australian Sheppard

That's irrelevent. A dog is a dog.

> and am having a problem leash breaking him.

That's because you don't know HOWE to pupperly
handle your lead and condition your dog to TRUST
that you won't jerk choke or drag him on leash.

The first thing you will learn reading the Wits'
End Dog Training Method manual, is how to get the
dog to relax and pay attention to the handler.

That is done through the Hot And Cold Exercise,
where I teach you how to control the lead without
force, and command the dogs attention through
praise administered with proper timing. This
quickly conditions the handler and the dog to
pay attention to each other and not pull.

Then, the Family Pack Leadership Exercise builds
on the attention gained through the Hot And Cold
Exercise. The FPLX makes the dog want to follow
the handler, and teaches him his position in the
family, and insures that he respects and follows
all family members' leadership. It is during this
simple, subtle, but profoundly important exercise,
that we begin to install the come command as a
conditional reflex.

The come command then becomes the default command,
to be used any time the dog fails to follow a
command as asked, since when he comes to you, he
naturally subordinates himself.

Learning how to install a conditioned reflex can
be applicable to any command that we desire to
install as a conditional reflex. I refrain from
using conditioned reflex for most commands, because
I prefer to allow the dog to think the behaviors
through, rather than simply react in reflex, to
help them generalize the idea, so that they use
their judgment in applying things we are teaching
them, to various situations.

These combined exercises take about fifteen minutes,
and can be practiced in about six or eight minutes
after they have become familiar. I recommend these
exercises be done several times in several places,
and thereafter repeated anytime the dog seems to be
not paying full attention or following commands immediately.

Through learning how to use sound distractions and
praise to eliminate unwanted behavior, we break
undesirable behavior patterns without conflict or
stress, insuring that the trust and respect we
are working on establishing, are not eroded through
conflict, stress, or punishment.

The relationship that we form through these exercises,
makes the dog want to do anything you ask. Through using
the come command as a default when the dog chooses not
to follow a request, we are able to get out of a
confrontational situation, and change it to a more
effective state of mind, and address the problem in
a more effective, positive manner.

The above is all covered in detail in part one of the
Wits' End manual. Part two continues to more specific
obedience training techniques based on establishing a
balance between the dog and handler through the heeling
pattern exercise.

These techniques will improve the behavior of any dog,
and will give you all of the tools you need to help your
dog reach his maximum potential.

The procedures for the above exercises are available
for free in the Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.
I'm always available to help clarify or further explain
and give variations on the information contained in the
manual.

> I got the dog when he was 14 weeks old.

That's irrelevent. You can train ANY dog to
naturally want to do ANY THING YOU ASK at
three weeks of age.

> He loves to play in my backyard

Of curse.

> and spends most of his time with me and my wife.

Good.

> When I try to put him on a leash he
> doesn't want anything to do with it.

That's normal. Dogs DON'T LIKE havin something
around their neck to get pulled around with.
We've got several posters here who've CRIPPLED
their dogs trying ineffectively to "train" them
using choke and pronged spiked pinch choke collars.

> He will just lie down and refuse to move.

We've got several posters here who's dogs do likeWIZE.

> I know he is afraid of being in areas he doesn't know yet

THAT'S because HE DON'T TRUST YOU. You don't suppose
he'd EVER be AFRAID if he was with his MOM, do you???

> so I have been trying to leash break him in the back yard.

NO. It SEZ in your FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual that dogs
DO NOT LIKE being "trained" in their PLAY AREA, it makes
them ANGRY and AGGRESSIVE.

Furthermore, you CANNOT tie your dog to your
belt or allow IT to DRAG his leash behind him
as the PROFESSIONAL TRAINERS tell us to do,
that makes the dogs FEAR their leashes.

> He hates not being able to run around like
> he usually does and even with treats its
> hard to bribe him to walk.

INDEEDY. You CANNOT use "treats' to "train" your dog
because it'll make him MISTRUSTFUL and AGGRESSIVE:

Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY
model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse,
Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966).

> Any suggestions on how to leash break him???

ALL behavior and temperament problems are caused by
mishandling, therefore ALL behavior and temperament
problems can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY:

Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOS...@no.umn.edu> wrote in message
Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg--

"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis...@­­chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The
F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good!

<snip>

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15 min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id 3.html
-- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fo ­­tografie/doggy-pictures/

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b*.@gmail.com wrote:
> Well I am happy to reply that so far after 10
> minutes of work and the cans from mr Howes guide,

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> I have instilled the "come" command to Riley.

Good. You mean INSTALLED the come command as
a conditional reflex. Be SHORE to perform the
EXXXORCISES four times in each of four locations.

> He is an extremley smart dog, I have never had
> to go to the third or fourth try.

----------------



From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:52:30 -0500
Re: Puppy Wizard's Website

Hi Buzzsaw

Not a Thing to lose ...But a Lot To Gain!!

I can only speak from my experience.. I have a 8 month
old miniature poodle, and although I had done some basic
training with him we had a few barking issues ..ugh

I am happy to tell you, I contacted Jerry at the email
addy I posted and he was so great! I wasn't following
the technique precisely but he helped me get back on track.

Beau is doing sooooo well it is really a thrill working
with him, and seeing the remarkable changes.

Now I can ask for "recall" (come) both on and off lead
and it is immediate!

the first time I ask.

Best of Luck to you,

Remember if you need help or explanation contact Jerry ..
he will be more than happy to help anyway he can.

Cheers
Barb

"Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com...

> Jerry believes he's a dog trainer.

Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
I took a rescued three year old beagle that
had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
even recognize or respond to its name to
Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
get real) and in just over one hour of working
with the dog, he was coming on command
(not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!

> and in all likelihood he's never even been near a dog.

Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him. You don't have
to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.

<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>

Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

-----------------------

To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog! Saw a dog
today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out
of him. Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting. I would
love to write a testimonial but can not seem to find
the site--please send the address--

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sunshine come goodboy.

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

===================


Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM
Hello.

I never posted here (or anywhere) before. I
never trained or owned a dog before this year.

I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.

Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.

I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.

I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.

A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.

We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he isvery eager to accept our love.

So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.

His method worked for us.

I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.

Florence
------------------------------------

"Brandy Kurtz" <KraftyKur...@wmconnect.com wrote in message

Well I just printed out the Amazing Puppy Wizard
info, so I haven't actually started to train yet.

Today a salesman knocked on the door, and Pokey was
going balisstic. I calmly go to the window to see
who it is, and off-handly say Good Boy, It's a
stranger, Good Boy. Pokey shut right up, gave me a
quizical look, and came and sat beside my feet!

OMG, I could not believe it!

I was totally floored, as this has been his behavior
since a pup. Just wanted to update, and Pokey and I
are hitting the sack...;)

Brandy

From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -

Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N
=========


From: <BNTDO...@aol.com>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training

Hi Jerry,
Send the post to whom ever you wish to. Believe
me I will keep you updated. I got to tell you His
amazing progress almost makes me cry.
Kay Pierce

From: BNTDO...@aol.com
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training is:

Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my
side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay

========================

From: <BNTDO...@aol.com>
To: <jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter

Dear Jerry,

Just thought I would write to let you know how
well Hunter is doing. He had been trained using
the conventional methods for obedience. He had
gotten used to a choker and a pinch collar.

Alot of pain and a lot of jerking around. I had also
tried using positive reinforcement methods that I
had been trained in. He was so busy looking for
the treat that he didn't really want to work.

So I went back to using the pinch collar on him
and also a gentle leader when we were in public.
Slowly by degrees his behavior got worse and
he did deserve his reputation as a vicious dog.
The vet had recommended that he be put down.
I was in a panic when I found your web site.

Thanks! He is now the happy dog that I first
started out with 5 years ago. I am a professional
trainer and it was distressing to me that I could not
help my own dog. I had been told that some dogs
don't respond to any kind of training and that a
vicious dog can never be trusted again.

I disagree!

Hunter is a sight hound and now I can take him
with me and he doesn't chase cars as much
anymore which is one of his main problems.

We are working on the dog aggression thing.
And I am confident that will be successful too.
I also have your BIOSOUND machine and that
too is working good. I know of several rescue
groups that would benefit from it.

This is rather long I know but it comes from the
heart. My Head Hunter Green and I have together
along time and have been through so much together.

Thank you for helping me save his life.

Kay Pierce

========================

From: "Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:22:03 GMT
Subject: Re: How to desensitize VERY sound sensitive dog?

Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm, was to praise
the dog after each clap of thunder, telling him he's
a Good Dog!

This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

The next time it thundered, he did not even react at
all--you could not tell it was the same dog as before.
There was more thunder just the other day, and same
thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no cowering, whimpering,
trying to hide at all, it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem to be
a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-abusive way
of handling dogs WORKS. Wonderfully. Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita

Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"

==============================

From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST

Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.

A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.

She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.

============================

Dave Cohen <coh...@total.net writes:

Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...

Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.

I have no stake or interest in the success of his
business. I simply want to thank him publicly for one
of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety.

I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed
animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but
I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it.
Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked!

I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry!

===================

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

"Hoku Beltz" <h...@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message
news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10868114@twister.socal.rr.com...

Aloha Sunny,

Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how
insignificant some of the step seem to be and your puppy will
be a very well behaved dog in a few days.

I would seriously consider backing out of the training
classes as they will conflict with the Wit's End principles.

I went the training route first, and still had problems until
I found Wits' End. Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.

You won't be disappointed if you follow the program.

Good luck,
Hoku

==================

From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!

Hoku

==================

From: Eric
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes. Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather
than beating ass or pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who beat MY ass lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)... Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard

==========================

"Zack Pellers" <ZackPell...@GUESSWHERE.cc>
wrote in message

d*.@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
6*.@posting.google.com:

Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.

Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com

You can start by downloading the free training
manual available on the site above. I used it on
my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro.

When I first brought him home from rescue, he
was similar to the way you decribed your dog.

After using Mr. Howe's training method, the dog
was cured within 72 hours.

-Jack


"Estel J. Hines" <ejhi...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com...

Until i read the Jerry method of Bark reductioon,
it went something like this with our 11 month old
puppy "Yoshi"

Yoshi: Bark, bark,

us: HUSH Youshi

Yoshi Bark, bark......................

us: Hush Youshi

Yoshi BARK, BARK, BARK, .................
it stopped when Yoshi got tired barking

We decided to try the Jerry method:

Yoshi: BARK, BARK

US: GOOD Yoshi, Good Boy, who is it?

Yoshi Bark, Bark

US: It's ok, good boy Yoshi, We know them.

Yosh without fail, now stops after we say that.

I must say, it is so much more fun, when we
can praise him, to deal with things like this.

Thanks Jerry

ps: We are just starting to go thru the Jerry
Papers, and learn how to live with our son
"Yoshi", whom we love very much.
--
Best Regards,

Estel J. Hines

==============

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry personally.
I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have not bought a
"Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

======================

From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:38:11 -0500
Local: Tues, Jan 25 2005 11:38 pm
Subject: PuppyWizard Thanks..for the Help!

Thanks Jerry for the help.. I really appreciate it!
I am posting this so others will see as well!

Hi Jerry,

> Oh joy, sure wish I had a bigger house ....<sigh>..
> but I don't. I live in a one bedroom apartment, so
> Beau and I spend most of the time in the living room.
> That's where the TV and computer are This is where
> he does the most of his growling and barking.

O.K., doesn't matter WHERE you go when
you got to get up and GO to make him follow.

> I have praised him...hummed a little de de de te de ta ra...
> I have gone to another room. I have tried to change his
> mind set with one of his toys.

O.K., but don't GIVE him the toy, ONLY use
it as a BRIEF NON PHYSICAL distraction.

> This is not a house, so not very big, so when
> we go to the kitchen or bathroom ..there is
> enough room for Beau to sit or down. Bedroom
> isn't large either..when we head for there he
> thinks it's either time for bed or I am going to
> change.( such a man! lol)

We only got to go to another door or room
to break the growling for a moment and return.

> When we go back to the living room we start
> what seems to have become routine all over
> again.

FOLLOW THE TECHNIQUE.

You must always ALTERNATE the sound from
that LAST INSTANCE you used it.

> He barks, I praise, hum and try another room
> or play with a toy. I guess what I am saying is
> he only stops for a very short time.

O.K., that seems to be the cause of the problem.
You're not following the technique precisely.

> If I am watching a program on TV or on the
> computer doing something by the 12th time
>and interruption I am the one getting frustrated!

Right. He's probably not stopping cause you're
failing to continue from the LAST instance of
distraction, OR that you're trying to physically
break the behavior.

> I just want an hour or so without interruption.

NO PROBLEM.

> Sometimes he gets up on my lazy boy chair
> stares at me and growls ( his apartment bark)

He's sayin HOWEDY! PRAISE HIM.

> now he wants something.

No no, no.

No.

> What do you want?

Oooops!

> I ask... play toy? cookie? outside pp?..
> Yep that's the one he wants to go out,
> I know he doesn't have to pee as we
> were just out 30 min ago.

Then TELL HIM so

> He just wants to go out look around make
> sure all is secure.or make like a reindeer
> jumping thru the snow ol usually he goes
> peepee and poopie when asked, so at this
> point I ask for peepee as that's why we are
> out here now. I swear he squeezes out 3 or
> 4 drops just to please me or prove he really
> had to go. ( a perfect con job)<smiling>

Right.

> I am beginning to think ..a) he has total control of me..

MUST be a blond thing!

> b) perhaps we have to go work more.

Naaah. I think you're just not followin the method precisely.

> This little guy is really very amusing and clever,

Yeah. That's HOWE COME we gotta alternate
the direction the distraction comes from EVERY
TIME, and the chain of events NEVER BREAKS.
Always remember the LAST INSTANCE of sound
distraction and use another direction NEXT time.

There's other suggestions I'll have for you if you
don't think THAT'S the problem.

> when he comes and growls at me and I ask questions ..

Good.

> he listens very carefully and cocks his head as
> if to say " what was that? did I hear you right?"
> then he runs to what he wants if I don't get it right.

Yeah... he's talkin.

> When relaxed he gathers as many of his toys as
> possible and brings them all up on my chair,stretches
> out across my legs or climbs over the keyboard on
> my lap for a hug, and will then settle down for a snooze.

Yeah, it's DEFINATELY a blond thing.

>When I am at home he would like me attached
>to his hip or he attached to my lap.

FINE.

> Not enough he sleeps with me ..lol and has
> to cuddle into my back.

Fine.

> Am I expecting too much?

I think I'd draw the line at cudling.

> or too soon?

Your pup should be nearly perfect nearly instantly.

> Is there a point where too much praise
> turns to no longer having control or a dog
> taking advantage?

NOPE. Perhaps if you praise him in advance
he won't ask you to do stuff like take him out
for a look see?

> Or am I just allowing too much trying to do the right thing?

I think you're makin a very tiny mishandling error,
probably by not alternating the direction EVERY
TIME.

> I am afraid at times my frustration may undo
> some of the good changes already accomplished.

That WILL happen if you scold him.

> Did I mention we work every two or three days
> pending on the weather and walk or play in between.

That's FINE.

> Gees ...I'm smiling now, I think he knows I'm writing you ...

They KNOW stuff.

> he has been snoozing across my legs since I
> started this note, you guessed it... not a growl,
> bark or sneeze. yep and he is still breathing.

Sounds like he's a little hyperactive.
That'll settle down in a few more days.

> This is like taking a noisy car to the mechanic,
> when you get there the car quietly purr's.

Just let me know what he's doin and what
you're doin and we can see what's goin on
and fix it nearly instantly.

> Well thanks for any help.

My pleasure

TPW <{) ; ~ ) >

Cheers,

Barb (BarbnBeau)

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:56:40 -0800 (PST)
From: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks for the note...and reminder's
To: "Barb E" <>

HOWEDY BarbnBeau,

Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

Barb E <> wrote:

Hi Jerry,

Thanks for your notes....

Pretty scary isn't it a blonde dog and a blonde
owner, no wonder the little guy is confused !

Not sure what I thought I was doing re: barking and
growling... sometimes I take things so literally.

I thought you had mentioned humming as a deterrent?
However I concentrated on repeating my little tune
completely, not thinking about changing the direction
of sound.

OMG I have enough trouble carrying a tune never mind
throwing my voice ....hahaha (way too funny)

So, we are going back to real noise and ALTERNATE the
sound from that LAST INSTANCE. ( light bulb moment)
I am NOT following the technique precisely!! duh.

I agree I think he is a tad hyperactive.. but I can
usually get him to calm down and breathe by "down"
and "stay" with lots of praise for a period of 3 to
5 mins. then release and back to playing. ( a puppy
time out lol)

re: cuddling.. Beau sleeps with me and I usually sleep
on my side. Once I move to my side he shuffles in closer
his back slightly touching mine... I think it's his way
of keeping track of me, making darn sure I don't go
anywhere without him!

You will be happy to hear after receiving your note,
and reminder's. Sir started his barking so I went
back to alternating sound and lo and behold he reacted
very quickly and stopped. ( your right.. way too blonde)
We also went down for our last pee break before bed and
wouldn't you know we timed it when the newspaper man
arrived, Beau gave one quick bark and he immediately
stopped.

Lucky me my dog is smarter than I am, the improvement
is there in spite of my errors! Now that you got me
back on track perhaps we will see more improvement.

Thanks once again for your help, will let you know
how things go.

Stay warm.. (for us that means 32 degrees today)

Cheers,

Barb


> Thanks, David

You're welcome. I don't want to BORE you
with all the DETAILS of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual, but just a few of the 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Student's REPORTS might persuade
you not to believe the PROFESSIONAL DOG
ABUSERS you're asking for HEELP.

LIKE THIS:

From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@ncweb.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:12:38 -0500

Subject: Re: PuppyWizard Thanks..for the Help!

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:38:11 -0500,
"BarbnBeau" <bdea...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

>Thanks Jerry for the help.. I really appreciate it!
>I am posting this so others will see as well!

>Hi Jerry,

>> Oh joy, sure wish I had a bigger house ....<sigh>..
>> but I don't. I live in a one bedroom apartment, so
>> Beau and I spend most of the time in the living room.
>> That's where the TV and computer are This is where
>> he does the most of his growling and barking.

>O.K., doesn't matter WHERE you go when
>you got to get up and GO to make him follow.

<Skip reposting of Jerry drivel.>

I believe you've been told that Jerry is killfiled
by the majority of regulars here. If you think his
advice is valuable and enjoy dealing with him, good
for you. However, reposting Jerry spew that people
use a killfile to avoid tends to suggest that you're
trying to annoy us, and even if you're not, it's
going to get you killfiled.

Let me be one of the first: PLONK.

Mustang Sally

Looks like racetrack silly is a little jealHOWES:

"After Numerous Training Classes, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."


"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.

"My spayed Siberian bitch marks and covers all
over the place, as did my spayed Dalmatian bitch.
The Borzoi doesn't, but she is *extremely* submissive."

Sally Hennessey

"Oops, hit "send" too fast. Of course bitches in
season are advertising, so that type of behavior
might be typical of Murphy. And some folks think
that spaying actually increases dominant/aggressive
behavior in bitches that were dominant/aggressive
beforehand, so perhaps marking behavior also
increases in those bitches."

Sally Hennessey


"Sally Hennessey" <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message
news:54nuetsqgkhp26qqv128jnumgmb2m27opr@4ax.com...

Nope. No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.

I'm starting to see some similarities here.

Sally Hennessey

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:23:46 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 9 2001 5:23 am
Subject: Re: shock collars

Sally Hennessey <greyho...@ncweb.com> wrote in message
news:b8m1dtsv6vuiblo63h8ekqiforibadrff2@4ax.com...

Aside from being incredibly offensive and self-righteous,
this post shows and absence of knowledge in the differences
in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps a lack of ability to perceive
same. The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to whom
corrections and discomfort, even pain, were unimportant does
not mean that such dogs do not exist.

What it means is that you don't know as much about dogs
as you think you do, and you surely don't know a damn
thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.

I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with one
of her housemates; that dog had no fear or anything,
and pain incurred during a fight meant nothing to her.

I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories. The fact that you,
Alison, continue to say things to people such as what
you said to Theresa about causing her dog to suffer
(at least I guess that's what you meant by "you cause
your dog suffers" - - must be the King's English you
guys talk about over there) means that you are an
ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person who is not worth
further notice.
Sally Hennessey

You startin to get the doGgamened PICTURE?:

Punishment Deranges Behavior.
"NO!" Does NOT Have Any Behavioral Function
EXCEPT
To DERANGE Behaviors.

Here's professor dermer pryor:

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.­),

--Marshall

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:

"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@csd.uwm.edu>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<*.@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and support your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establishing a nonprofit
charity to fund your important work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer


Subject: < BEFORE -> "Jerry, You filthy, Unctuous,
No Good Charlatan,"

< AFTER -> "Thank You Jerry For Putting Up With
A Constant Barrage Of Really Infantile
Crap At The Hands Of Supposedly Adult
Dog Lovers.

'Naive' Is Believing You Can Terrorize
A Dog Into Good Behavior," Robert Crim.

>Subject: Re: Fritz---a retrospective
>Date: 02/05/1999
>Author: Robert Crim <fritzg...@earthlink.net>
> You filthy, unctuous, no good charlatan. If you had
> any idea of what dogs and dog people were about
> you would realize the depths of the absolute loathing
> and contempt I hold for you right now. Were it not
> for the blessed distance and anonymity that the internet
> gives us from the scummy likes of you, I would probably
> be in a jail cell right now for turning you into the pile
> of shit you really are

Hey, Howe, you really are a wacko, eh?

Crim wrote this about *YOU,* you insipid piece of cow dung!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@i1.net
http://www.i1.net/~dogman

=====================

> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:24:15 -0700, dogsnus

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> Wrote:>

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog.

Naive is believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use their real
names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===========

Crim wrote THAT about *YOU,* tommy, "you insipid piece of cow dung!"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@mail.com>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400

Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.

I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.

There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.

Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well documented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology


From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:26:31 GMT

Subject: Dr. George VonHilshimer Writes: "No Loving, No Learning."

HOWEDY People,

Perhaps the PROBLEM is "TOO MANY WORDS?"

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@EarthLink.Net>
To: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:40 AM
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop

> From: "diannes" <dian...@bolt.sonic.net>
> Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop
> > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
> > > > > all the time, would send up "red flag" to you
> > > > > and others, but the fact remains, if a technique
> > > > > *doesn't* work 100% of the time, with all dogs,
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.

> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.

> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that
> > > leap.

> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.

> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:

Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.

> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.

This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.

Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;

Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;

Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;

The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;

Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .

There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.

I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's CUMULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.

NO PUNISHMENT.

Must pay attention to who is the animal?

His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.

I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than
the methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.

Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.

Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.

You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.

Fondly, Dr. Von

From: TooCool (larrym...@hotmail.com)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leadership exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry

From: Mike (m.bidd...@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

"*.@DCFWatch.com" wrote:

No, the dog learned that I would hold still
the second she began to pull. She would pull
to go where *she* wanted.

Well if she wanted to stop and go in another
direction.. say to sniff my neighbors yard..

she learned if she wanted to do it I would stop
walking and she could go.. and if there wasn't
enough slack on her lead she would just pull me.

Then when she got done doing *her* thing, she woudl
heel.. smile at me and wait for me to say "let's go"
and finish *my* thing. I would refuse to move .. i
looked like an idiot.. freezing mid walk for minutes
waiting for *my* dog to heel and give *me* permission
to go again.

I did the treats and the let's go... she got to do her
stuff and get a cookie.. if she even wanted the cookie.

I wound up calling Jerry.. as I have a half red nose
pit and half amstaff.. who is incredibly protective..

we had a new pup on the way.. and i needed help.. i
followed petsmarts trainnign guides.. memorized them...
and they *did* work, don't get me wrong.. but only
when my pet wanted a cookie or felt the cookie was
better than what she wanted.. which was not often.

She quickly learned to ignore my commands if she
could see my hands were empty. So I called Jerry...
he chatted me for about an hour and a half.. gave me
his link... and even when i had probs intro'ing the
pup he called me withn i5 mins of my email for help
at 10pm on a sunday night.

One.. singular.. uno family pack exercise after
the hot and cold exercise and i could zig zag
down my street.. about face .. whatever.. and
never had tension.

two men were acrossed the street and she walked right
by them... ordinarily she'd snarl and protect us.

And in two days.. my dog.. who bit the puppy if he
even looked like he was going near my husband or kids..
is nursing him every hour.. cleaning him.. rough housing
gently.. and teaching him to go potty outside..

actually watches him to make sure he doesn't go in
the house... and has milk.. which is awesome since
she's 19 months old and has never had a litter.

She also has stopped barking non stop at our neighbor's
dogs and pig.. does not bark at eveyr car that drives by
and has stopped jumping on people. she's even starting
to ignore our cat who has lived on her dome litter box
and our window sill (literally) for over a year and a half.

She also does her commands on cue.. and doesn't look for a treat.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com>
Subject: The Amazing Jerry's take on psychobabble
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:13:44 -0400

You might improve the learning of folk who actually
live with and train dogs to do useful things if you
excluded everyone who uses psychobabble from your lists.

I recommend to all of you who wish to taste the flavor
of sensible animal behaviorists to read THE MISBEHAVIOR
OF ORGANISMS, Breland and Breland.

This married pair of psychologists began the long trail
of highly trained animals who are symbolized by Shamu
eating a mackrel from a girl's hand instead of eating
the much more tasty pretty girl who is exactly the size
of the natural food of killer whales, seals. Yum!

The essay, by the way, is a chapter in B.F. Skinner's
summing up book, CUMULATIVE RECORD. They include a
sentence which more or less says, "unless you understand
the personal history of the particular animal, and the
history of this animal's species and group, the developmental
history of the animal, you cannot effectively train the animal.

Pigs root and hen's scratch, if you try to train hens without
scratching or pigs without scratching or pigeons without pecking,
you aren't going to have much success.

A conditional reflex is one which is learned, the original
primitive reflex occurs no matter what the history of the
animal, and is hard wired. If you train the animal to respond,
say by ringing a bell immediately before turning on a bright
light, then you've taught the animal and made his native reflex
of pupil constriction conditional upon the ringing of a bell.

Thorndyke added some terminology to this kind of training
and insisted that when you train the animal to make gross
motor responses that this learning is "instrumental", the
animal takes action and uses an instrument.

The Russian word translated as "conditional" in all other
contexts was mistranslated by Pavlov's American translator,
Horsley Gannt, as "conditioned" and so American psychology
went haring after phantasmagora.

The major theorists for the development of the language of
operant conditioning are Edward Thorndike, John Watson, and
B. F. Skinner. Their approach to behaviorism played a major
role in the development of American psychology.

They proposed that learning is the result of the application
of consequences; that is, learners begin to connect certain
responses with certain stimuli. This connection causes the
probability of the response to change (i.e., learning occurs.)

Thorndike labeled this type of learning instrumental. Using
consequences, he taught kittens to manipulate a latch (e.g.,
an instrument). Skinner renamed instrumental as "operant"
because in this learning, one is "operating" on, and is
influenced by, the environment. Where classical conditioning
illustrates S-->R learning, operant conditioning is often
viewed as R-->S learning since it is the consequence that
follows the response that influences whether the response
is likely or unlikely to occur again.

It is through operant conditioning that
voluntary responses are learned.

One should note that Russian Psychology did very well
without the operant language, and only pettifogging
university professors ought to worry about what kind
of label we attach to the learning. Pfui!

Even Skinner understood this!

And please note if you saw the original movie, THE
MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, you saw a Chinese psychologist
who was based on Andrew Salter, CONDITIONED REFLEX
THERAPY.

Alas, Salter didn't have a Ph.D., but he basically rescued
us from the long Freudian nightmare and returned psychotherapy
to a scientific basis. Alas, the 2nd movie didn't even cite
Salter as a source. "...all the highest nervous activity, as
it manifests itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a
continual change of these three fundamental processes --
excitation, inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.

What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat
the fish and not the pretty girl?"

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com wrote in message
news:

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."

*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!

Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!

I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

================================

From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

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