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Bunny
2005-07-27 11:48:43 EST
My husband and I recently adopted a terrier cross from a county animal
shelter. She's a beautiful, high strung little girl (spayed, of course)
who has adapted very well to our lives and rountines. She's COMPLETELY
house trained, and smart. She's quickly picked up on phrases like "Bye
bye" to get in our car, or "Bedtime" when we want her in her crate. But
in the almost 2 months we've had her, she's urinated on our bed 3
times, and never under the saqme circumstances.

Once, when everybody was gone at work and daycare, so we started the
crate thing while we went off for the day. Then the next time, I was
home alone in the kitchen and she did it while I was home alone with
her. So I started keeping her out of the bedroom unless my husband or I
were there with her. BUT-- Last saturday I was watching t.v. with my
son and went to get up, and rolled into dog pee! While I was in the
bed!!!

What is up with this? I don't want to give her up, but the laundry
situation is maddening! I work full time and since we are moving this
weekend to a place with a yard, my old man is talking of her becoming a
"yard dog"! Yikes! But she's great, really.

Please, I don't do NGs, as a rule, but I'm hoping that opinions from
different sources will perhaps come up with a workable solution. The
vet I have called this morning (she doesn't have a regular, since the
animal control vet spayed, vaccinated and wormed her for a year just a
few weeks ago) but I haven't gotten a reply yet. I even asked her new
groomer this morning when I dropped her off. Guys--Please no trolls, I
use my comp time at home mostly for bussiness. And I am not a fan of
causing animals pain, so please no "rub her nose in it" type ideas.
Just something simple (she jumps our baby gate) and non-violent,
please. I don't want to exclude her from our bedroom completely.

Thank you.

Bunny


YourConscience
2005-07-27 16:09:16 EST
HOWEDY Bunny,

Bunny wrote:
>
> My husband and I recently adopted a terrier cross

A dog is a dog.

> from a county animal shelter.

Good for you.

> She's a beautiful, high strung

No, she's HYPERACTIVE.

> little girl (spayed, of course)

Spaying and neutering are unnecessary inapupraiate
surgical mutilation that CAUSES critters to be fearful.
Of curse, gettin your pup from a shelter you had NO
CHOICE in THAT decision. We'll have to INFORM the
rescue and shelter folks of the unnecessary risky
CONtraWIZE procedure which HARMS so many dogs...

> who has adapted very well to our lives and rountines.

So, you're writing to say HOWE successful this adoption has been?

> She's COMPLETELY house trained, and smart.

Most often, dogs who have impeccable HOWEsbreakin
habits likeWIZE have other HYPERACTIVE behaviors
DUE TO their HOWEsbreaking training.

> She's quickly picked up on phrases like "Bye
> bye" to get in our car, or "Bedtime" when we
> want her in her crate.

LIKE CRATING, for EXXXAMPLE.

> But in the almost 2 months we've had her, she's
> urinated on our bed 3 times, and never under the
> saqme circumstances.

Dogs ONLY have HOWEsbreakin "ACCIDENTS" when they're
SICK or UNHAPPY. Dogs OFTEN piss on their human's bed
or IN FRONT OF THEM usually lookin up as if to CRY FOR
HEELP to TELL THEM they're SICK.

Of curse, dogs likeWIZE piss on their owner's bed
to TELL THEM THEY AIN'T HAPPY being locked in boxes
and bribed choked sprayed in the face with aversives
and ignored when they CRY for attention <{): ~ ( >

> Once, when everybody was gone at work and daycare, so we
> started the crate thing while we went off for the day.

LIKE THAT.

> Then the next time, I was home alone in the kitchen
> and she did it while I was home alone with her.

And LIKE THAT.

> So I started keeping her out of the bedroom unless my
> husband or I were there with her. BUT-- Last saturday
> I was watching t.v. with my son and went to get up,
> and rolled into dog pee! While I was in the bed!!!

AND LIKE THAT.

> What is up with this?

There's ONLY 2 (C-HOWENT 'm, TWO) possibilities:

1. Your dog MAY be SICK.

2. Your dog MAY BE UNHAPPY.

> I don't want to give her up,

Well, LUCKY thing HOWEsbreakin PROBLEMS are sumpthin
professional dog trainers CAN advise you abHOWET on
the net, according to captain arthur haggert's prize
graduate and Presidential trainer booby maida.

> but the laundry situation is maddening! I work full
> time and since we are moving this weekend to a place
> with a yard, my old man is talking of her becoming a
> "yard dog"! Yikes! But she's great, really.

IF YOUR DOG AIN'T SICK, and he PROBABLY AIN'T,
relegatin IT to the yard will only INTENSIFY
her DISTRESS and she'll bark whine cry dig and
escape your fences JUST LIKE HOWE the EXXXPERTS
dogs do, whom you're asking RIGHT HERE.

> Please, I don't do NGs, as a rule,

WELCOME to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Forums And School Of HARD KNOCKS and HUMAN
BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORIES.

I'm Jerry Howe, The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >

WELCOME, Bunny!

Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G 34D2527A

Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you
need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO
arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so
study it well and do and follow ALL the
EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a
PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100%
CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for
all handlers and all dogs in all fields
or utilities and behaviors all over the
Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ ) >

> but I'm hoping that opinions

Dog trainin AIN'T a matter of OPINION.

> from different sources

You mean, YOU'LL DO ANY THING to heelp your dog.

> will perhaps come up with a workable solution.

THAT AIN'T LIKELY TO HAPPEN, Bunny. Dog training
is a PRECISE SCIENCE so therefore you MUST FOLLOW
the PRECISE SCIENTIFIC FORMULAE as instructed in
your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> The vet I have called this morning (she doesn't have
> a regular, since the animal control vet spayed, vaccinated
> and wormed her for a year just a few weeks ago) but I haven't
> gotten a reply yet. I even asked her new groomer this morning
> when I dropped her off.

You DON'T NEED a vet to TELL YOU if your dog is SICK.
HOWEsbreaking and bed pissin PROBLEMS are EZ to CURE
if you know HOWE. If they DON'T CURE NEARLY INSTANTLY
that means your dog is SICK and NEEDS the vet. Take
WON DAY to STUDY and FOLLOW PRECISELY ALL the INSTRUCTONS
in your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual and if your dog EVER does
that despicable deed again, YOU'LL KNOW SHE'S SICK.

OtherWIZE, your VET will EXXXAMIN and PROBALBY PRESCRIBE
antibiotics as a PRECAUTION and of curse to FLEECE YOU
some MOORE, so long as you're THERE.

If the PROBLEM CONtinues and your vet sez she AIN'T SICK
your VET will send your to a veterinary behaviorsist who
will EXXXAMINE your dog and send you BACK to your vet for
a PRESCRIPTION for ANTI PSYCHOTIC meds AFTER HE'S DONE
FLEECING you someMOORE <{); ~ ) >

> Guys--Please no trolls,

Hey? You SEZ you was NEW to newsgroups, OTHERWIZE
The Amazing Puppy Wizard would have advised you
that DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS.

> I use my comp time at home mostly for bussiness.
> And I am not a fan of causing animals pain, so
> please no "rub her nose in it" type ideas.

Oh good, you're just worried abHOWET abusive trainin.
You SCARED The Amazing Puppy Wizard mentionin TROLLS.

> Just something simple (she jumps our baby gate)

You CAN TRAIN your dog to say in or HOWET of ANY
area withHOWET a gate in a few minutes if you know
HOWE. It's no different than perimeter training
your dog not to leave the yard, takes MINUTES if
you know HOWE.

IN FACT, the GATE causes BARRIER FRUSTRATION
just like HOWE the CRATE does and MAKES DOGS
DO STUFF like PISS ON YOUR BED.

> and non-violent,

HOWE abHOWET TOTALLY NON PHYSCICAL NEARLY INSTANTLY
through using ONLY PRAISE? Would THAT be sufficient?

> please.

You're VERY polite.

> I don't want to exclude her from our bedroom completely.

Or bannish her to the yard or WORSE.

> Thank you.

Thank you, Bunny. The Amazing Puppy Wizard NEEDS YOUR
POSTED CASE HISTORY to PROVE the health and temperament
risks involved with handling raising and training dogs
as the EXXXPERTS recommend that CAUSED your dog's behavior
problem PRESUMING SHE AIN'T SICK, which she PROBABLY AIN'T
due to the INCONSISTENCY of her urinating behavor <{); ~ ) >

> Bunny

Please take a few minutes to READ the followin discussion
with another poster who DONE HIS DUE DILLIGENCE and GOT HIS
JUST DESSERTS by FOLLOWIN THE ADVICE of the NICE TRAINERS
we got here who TOLD HIM TO LOCK HIS DOG IN A BOX and IGNORE
HIS CRIES and PREVENT and CORRECT BAD BEHAVIORS:

Y*e@InBox.
From: YourWorstFreakinNightm...@InBox.Com
Date: 26 Jul 2005 11:19:55 -0700

Subject: Re: Dog Chews Everything

HOWEDY DaveR,

Perhaps IF you got a few EXXXTRA minutes you could
reply to or comment onthe followng 2 Puppy Wizard's
Posts, PLEASE, just to set the RECORD straight:

HOWEDY tommy,

Handsome Jack Morrison wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:25:26 -0400, DaveR
> <NOSPAM_drubin@NOSPAM_i-2000.com> wrote:

> > Inevitably, he pulls and pulls, choking himself,
> > wanting to go where he wants to go.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

> Did you say the dreaded "c" word?

INDEEDY tommy. Your methods have driven DaveR's
dog INSANE in JUST WON WEEK. At least ACCORDIN
TO DaveR's POSTED CASE HISTORY, tommy <{); ~ ) >

> JERRY'S METHOD is causing you to actually <cough>
> <cough> "choke" your own dog?

No tommy. YOUR method has CAUSED DaveR to HURT his
dog and his dog is ONLY RESPONDING AS PREDICTED, in
his NORMAL NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE ways,
as ALL critters do, tommy, includin yourself.

> Shame shame shame.

INDEEDY. DaveR STARTED OFF with a PERFECT Puppy:

"The first week she was very docile but now that
she is comfortable in her new surroundings she is
getting difficult."

Does LIFE usually GET DIFFICULT as WON becomes
"COMFORTABLE" in it, tommy?:

"He was doing great for a week, no accidents at all."

But THAT was PRYOR to the pup GETTIN CRATE TRAINED,
as YOU TOLD HIM TO DO, tommy. REMEMBER?

"Now he has them every day. It's like we took a step
backwards."

DaveR SEZ he STARTED HOWET with a GOOD DOG and after
JUST WON WEEK of LOCKING IT in a box and SCHEDULING
IT, his NEW PUPPY has begun DESTROYING the HOWES
and SHITTIN all over DaveR's WHOWEL WILD WORLD, tommy.
THANKS TO YOUR OWN INSTRUCTIONS, tommy.

> *You* must be doing something wrong, Dave.

INDEEDY tommy. DaveR was followin YOUR instructions:

"When we supervise her we are sure to dissuade her
from doing this, give her a chew toy, and praise
her for taking interest in it."

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHHAHAAAA!!!

THAT REINFORCES and INTENSIFIES BAD BEHAVIOR, AS
DaveR STATED RIGHT HERE:

"But once we leave her alone, she ignores her chew
toys and goes after anything else she can grab."

JUST LIKE HOWE IT SEZ IN YOUR OWN FREE COPY of The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method MANUAL, NOT "GUIDE"l, DOESN'T IT, tommy <{); ~ ) >

DaveR SEZ he USED The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training ***GUIDE*** for dealin with
PROBLEMS LIKE THIS, tommy, PROBLEMS PREDICTED IN
his own 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method MANUAL:

"I read the Puppy Wizard guide"

WHERE has ANY WON EVER SAID The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual IS A ***GUIDE***,
with handy heelpful HINTS and SUGGESTIONS, tommy?

THAT'S HOWE COME HE GOT THE PROBLEMS, tommy. DaveR
FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE to LOCK HIS DOG IN BOX and
HARASS IT till IT WENT INSNE, and he did...

WHERE in this SUPPOSED "GUIDE" does it teach DEALING
WITH MISTAKES, LIKE THIS, tommy?: "to dealing with
mistakes like this"??? IT DON'T, tommy, on accHOWENT
of dogs HOWESBREAK INSTINCTIVELY at four weeks of age
if you DON'T LOCK THEM IN BOXES and SUPERVISE MANAGE
and "GIVE REPLACEMENTS" to CHEW ON for BAD BEHAVIORS.

No tommy. IT SEZ IN The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method MANUAL that you MUST
FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS PRECISELY.

IT SEZ IN The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method MANUAL that HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE
IF WE DON'T DO WHAT YOU TAUGHT DaveR TO DO, which caused
DaveR to TRY to CURE his dog's ANXXXIHOWESNESS behaviors
that NEVER HAPPEN if you DON'T DO what YOU TOLD DaveR to DO..

It SEZ IN The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method MANUAL that LOCKING DOGS IN BOXES
and RESTRICTING FOOD WATER and TOILET area and NOT
PAYIN IT NO ATTENTION WHEN IT CRIES and BRIBING
and PUNISHING dogs and children DERRANGES BEHAVIORS
and CONfHOWENDS INSTINCT *(like OPPOSITE SEX DOG
AGGRESSION, it's UNHEARD OF IN NATURE, tommy) and
CAUSES EXXXCESSIVE HOWES SHITTIN, DESTRUCTIVE CHEWIN,
FEAR AGGRESSION, FEAR OF THUNDER, CAR SICKNESS,
HYPERACTIVE OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE BEHAVIORS like
barking whining chewing self mutilation shyness
aggression and seizures AS DEMONSTRATED by DaveR's
FORMERLY DOCILE WELL BEHAVED PUPPY TURNING INTO
an INSANE COMPULSIVE OBSESSIVE HOWES SHITTER and
FEARFUL UNTRUSTING WRETCHED SNOT who NEEDS to BE
CHOKED by a PROFSSIONAL LIKE YOURSELF, to TEACH
IT RESPECT, tommy <{); ~ ) >

> Surely it couldn't be the fault of Jerry's supposedly
> infallible and ultra "superior" program?

Of curse not, tommy. DaveR WAS TOLD IN ADVANCE that
FOLLOWIN YOUR ADVICE to LOCK HIS DOG in the box JUST
LIKE HOWE you told him to and restricting and ignoring
and withholding and scheduling DONE THAT for DaveR JUST
LIKE HOWE it's done for ALL your STUDENTS who've ever
posted RIGHT HERE, tommy.

It's ALL IN The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives on Google.

> Or could it?

"I read the Puppy Wizard guide to dealing with
mistakes like this but it just doesn't seem practical."

HE WOULDN'T HAVE THOSE "MISTAKES" was it not
FOR YOUR PARANOID ABUSIVE ADVICE, tommy.

AND SO HE FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE tommy and HE GOT HIS
JUST DESSERTS JUST LIKE HOWE IT SEZ in The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
MANUAL <{); ~ ) >

> My advice:

DaveR been FOLLOWIN your ADVICE, tommy.

IT GOT HIM HURT. YOU BURNED HIM, tommy. AGAIN.
JUST LIKE HOWE you BURNED Robert Crim and he
MURDERED his own Fritz The WONder Dog. REMEMBER?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard KNOWS this BUSINESS
inside and HOWET tommy, and when the DOG has
a BAD BEHAVIOR HE KNOWS it's the HANDLER'S
FAULT and NONE OTHER, tommy.

You want PROOF, tommy?:

"The dog does not behave according to the way the
manual claims he should"... THAT'S on accHOWENT OF
DaveR was CORRECTING HIS DOG for "HIS MISTAKES"
CAUSED BY the INSTRUCTIONS from YOU AND the other
MENTAL CASES RIGHT HERE, tommy.

THEN in a PAINIC DaveR resorted to the PROBLEM
SOLVING of HOWEsbreakin... which HE'D NEVER NEED
had he NOT LOCKED HIS DOG IN THE BOX and SCHEDULED
and PUNISHED IT, tommy: "We can't get him to calmly
come over to the spot".

TO PUNISH HIS DOG, tommy. DaveR SKIPPED the ENTIRE
METHOD, LOCKED HIS DOG IN A BOX, IGNORED and SCHEDULED
IT JUST LIKE HOWE YOU SEZ, and THEN when HE GOT HIS
JUST DESSERTS JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual, DaveR BLAMES THE
DOG and TRIES TO PUNISH IT JUST LIKE HOWE YOU SEZ,
HOWEVer, using The Amazing Puppy Wizard's NON PUNISHMENT
TECHNIQUES... as SUGGESTED in that "GUIDE" he "READ", tommy:

"We can't get him to calmly come over to the spot"

The GUIDE SEZ to NOT DO THAT, tommy. IT'S OPPOSITE
of the INSTRUCTIONS DaveR "READ" in his haste to
SOLVE the HOWEsbreaking problems HE DEVELOPED after
JUST WON WEEK of being locked in a box and SUPERVISED
and RESTRICTED and given REWARDS for BAD BEHAVIORS
JUST LIKE HOWE YOU TAUGHT HIM TO DO TO HIS DOG, tommy.

And HOWE does DaveR HANDLE HIS DOG'S MISTAKES,
like FOR EXXAMPLE, NOT LOCKIN HIS DOG IN A BOX
and MANAGING IT like HOWE you and your punk thug
coward mental case pals TOLD HIM TO DO, tommy?

HE BLAMES THE DOG JUST LIKE HOWE YOU TAUGHT HIM.

DaveR continues: "and when we drop the can (no
matter how quietly) it startles him".

THAT'S on accHOWENT OF DaveR is TRYING to PUNISH
HIS DOG for HIS DOG'S MISTAKES: "We can't get him
to calmly come over to the spot" instead of FOLLOWIN
THE INSTRUCTIONS PRECISELY, to "CASUALLY walk past
the spot IGNORING IT and FIND the can and SUBTLY,
sayin NOTHING, drop the can and CONTINUE abHOWET
your business, and put the dog HOWET while you
clean up so IT don't hear you cussin under your
breath. THEN when the dog returns to the area
and NOTICES that cleaned spot, TO PRAISE HIM for
that, which will TOTALLY DISAVAIL the dog of an
vicariHOWES PLEASURE he may have taken for makin
HIS MISTAKE to GET YOUR ATTENTION.

But OF CURSE, his PERFECT PUPPY NEVER MADE NO
doGgamened MISTAKES, tommy, on accHOWENT OF:

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

LIKE THIS, for EXXXAMPLE:

"and/or he thinks it'ssomething to play with."

And THAT IS NOT covered in the HOWEsbreakin section of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method MANUAL on accHOWENT of it's IN ANOTHER section
PRYOR to HOWEsbreakin where The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method MANUAL Students ARE TAUGHT
HOWE to DEAL WITH THAT PREDICTABLE RESPONSE which most
often is CAUSED BY NOT PRAISING the S-HOWEND INSTANTLY
or otherWIZE MISHANDLING and NOT FOLLOWIN THE PRECISE
SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL CONDITIONING Techniques.

You see tommy, The Amazing Puppy Wizard, knowin the
NATURE of DOG ABUSERS, wrote HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method MANUAL so's folks CAN'T SKIM THROUGH
it for HANDY TIPS and SUGGESTIONS on accHOWNT of it's
A SCIENTIFC FORMULAE which MUST BE followed PRECISELY.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard WROTE IT LIKE THAT to
CONfHOWEND DOG ABUSERS, LIARS, COWARDS and MENTAL
CASES like yourself who are TOO LAZY, TOO STUPID,
and TOO ARROGANT to FOLLOW THE NON FORCE INSTRUCTIONS.

> Enroll yourself in a good OBEDIENCE training class

Oh? You mean like the kind you and janet boss SELL, tommy?

For WHAAAT, tommy?

> locally and get some hands-on help.

Oh? You mean, LIKE THIS, tommy:

"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
> Janet Boss

Here's janet's PARTNER:

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > > than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > > dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

_____________________

> But before you enroll, check closely to see if
> anyone's drinking anything that looks like Kool-Aid.

Oh?

Is THAT your critteria for a EXXXPERT trainer,
tommy? You got a PROBLEM for Kool-Aid, tommy?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard recommends PRYOR to
"enrolling" to CHECK CLOSELY the POSTED CASE
HISTORIES of the EXXXPERTS you're askin for
HEELP. You'll NOTICE janet's STUDENT Nessa
COULDN'T HOWEsbreak her dogs IN THREE YEARS
of workin with her and sinofabitch jerkin and
choking and shocking them TILL THEY TURNED ON
HER. REMEMBER TOMMY?

REMEMBER tommY? Perhaps you should pour yourself
a glass of KOOL-AID and set DHOWEN an READ your
own POSTED CASE HISTORIES, eh tommy?

> If they are, look elsewhere.

So, if your EXXXPERT TRAINER prefers KOOL-AID you
think THAT'S MOORE important than NOT LOCKIN dogs
in boxes and PUNISHING them, and RESEARCHING YOUR
OWN POSTED CASE HISTORY, tommy?

HOWE COME you set your posts to EXXXPIRE in a few
days, tommy? AIN'T YOU PRHOWED of your own posted
case history, tommy? The Amazing Puppy Wizard would
GO NUTS if HIS posts "EXXXPIRED" after three days
like HOWE yours do, tommy.

> Otherwise you'll end up like Lucy -

Lucy CURED her dog's FEAR AGGRESSION and
separation anXXXIHOWESNES NEARLY INSTANTLY
and came here to SHARE THE GOOD NEWS with
you... tommy.

> - brain dead.

Psst? Hey tommy? YOUR METHODS got DaveR to
STUDY HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual and he'll SUCCEED NEARLY INSTANTLY
IF he STOPS DOIN what YOU TAUGHT HIM TO DO
and doesn't GO INSANE FIRST trying to UN DO
the TRAININ HE LEARNED FROM YOUR METHODS, tommy.

> Good luck!

DOG TRAININ AIN'T LUCK, tommy, or the Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
MANUAL Students WOULDN'T GET THEIR 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for ALL temperament and
behavior problems for ALL handlers and ALL dogs
ALL OVER The WHOWEL WILD WORLD just like HOWE
Lucy REPORTED RIGHT HERE.

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

You can TRAIN ANY DOG KAT or CHILD in a few minutes
to NATURALLY WANT to do ANY THING you ask if you DON'T
follow the ADVICE of the lying dog kat and child abusing
MENTAL CASES you're askin for HEELP.

HOWE COME you call SUCCESS FAILURE and EVIDENCE,
PROOF, CASE HISTORY DATA, LIES, and IGNORE the
words your own STUDENT DaveR wrote in his failed
efforts to BLAME NOT HURTING his dog for the
behavior problems he GOT from LOCKIN HIS DOG
IN A BOX and DOIN LIKE HOWE you sez, eh tommy?

LIKE THIS:

"I'm inclined to confine him to the kitchen and
give him no attention at all for awhile."

WHERE in JERRY'S GUIDE do you SEE THAT advice,
tommy? THAT'S YOUR ADVICE, tommy.

"Shouldn't this defeat the purpose of his 'mistake'?"

IT SEZ in JERRY'S GUIDE that DOGS DO NOT MAKE "MISTAKES":

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

As DaveR'S POSTED CASE HISTORY VERIFIES.

Yet YOUR STUDENT DaveR CONtinues:

"I'm sure the answer is no, but this is very frustrating.
I really believe we are treating this puppy very well,
with unconditional affection and no scolding. "

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest?

"With him,
words play no torturing tricks.., "
--John Galsworthy.

Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

> --
> Handsome Jack Morrison
> *gently remove the detonator to reply by e-mail

> "You ask what is our aim?"

The Amazing Puppy Wizard CAME HERE to IDENTIFY
EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you and your miserable
lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case
pals, tommy.

> I can answer that in one word, victory at all costs,

INDEED, tommy. Your standard of "victory" is NOT
ANSWERIN THE HARD QUESTIONS, tommy.

> victory in spite of terror,

Well tommy, at least you an The Amazing Puppy
Wizard GOT SUMPTHIN IN COMMON. We're BOTH
terrorists. Only DIFFERENCE is, YOU terrorize
DOGS and The Amazing Puppy Wizard TERRORIZES
DOG ABUSER by QUOTING YOUR OWN POSTED CASE
HISTORIES, tommy. Pour yourself a nice refreshin
KOOL-AID and REVIEW YOUR OWN POSTED SUCCESS stories.
like laura arlov's DEAD DOG Chewie, kwbrown's
DEAD DOG Teena, tara o. aka tee's DEAD DOG Summer,
Misty's DEAD DOG Peaches, Robert Crim's DEAD DOG
Summer and all the rest, tommy. Better make a
pitcher of Kool-Aid, it'll be a LONG while readin
your own SUCCESS STORIES tommy, like chrisman
dinan's DEAD DOG Usal, steve walker's DEAD DOG
Sampson, purple pony's DEAD DOG Raggdoll and LOTS
LOTS MOORE DEAD DOGS you and your punk thug coward
mental case pals have enterTRAINED TO DEATH RIGHT
HERE on The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Forums And School Of HARD
KNOCKS and HUMAN BEHAVIOR RESEARCH LABORATORIES.

> victory however long and hard the road may be;

S-HOWENDS kinda like Ho Chi Minh, eh tommy?
Know what? The Amazing Puppy Wizard in profile
looks much like President Ho...

> for without victory there is no survival."

INDEEDY, tommy:

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon.

> Winston Churchill

Seems Winston Churchill and Chairman Ho Chi Minh
and The Amazing Puppy Wizard travel in the same
circles, eh tommy?

"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.
The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
for the good of its victims,
may be the most oppressive.
Those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end,
for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." -
- C.S. Lewis.

There are NO grey areas between RIGHT and WRONG.

Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom
and right action as separate,
not the wise.

If any man knows one, he enjoys the fruit of both.

The level which is reached by wisdom
is attained
through right action as well.

He who perceives that the two are one knows the truth."

"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.

What is the use of compulsion then?

The love and hate which are aroused
by the objects of sense
arise from Nature,
do not yield to them.
They only obstruct the path." -

- Bhagavad Gita, adapted by
Krishna with permission from
His FREE copy of The Puppy
Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method manual <{) ; ~ ) >

Force training JERRYIZES dogs and GETS THEM DEAD.

"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.

What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George

"(Also, it is best to killfile posts from
the few regulars here who are either ill-
tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.),"
--Marshall

The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME is the perfect synergy
of love, pride, desire, self will, greed, ego, fear,
hate, arrogance, disbelief, jealousy, embarrassment,
embellishment, shame, guilt, anger, aversion, attraction,
revulsion, change, permanence, enlightenment, insult,
attrition, and conditioning.

It's the perfect fusion of The Word...,
in the physical.

It's time for the dog training industry and
the universities who TEACH "behaiviorists"
to DEFEND THEIR METHODS against 100%
NEAR INSTANT TOTAL SUCCESS as PROVEN
by the cHOWENTLESS NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Student's REPORTS,
after they've TRIED ALL OTHER METHODS
and FAILED.

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
can be judged by the way
its animals are treated." ~ Mohandas
Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from his FREE
copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ ) >

Force training JERRYIZES dogs...
and GETS THEM DEAD.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you've got them by the balls
their hearts and minds
will follow,"
John Wayne.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >

Date: 25 Jul 2005 04:25:21 -0700
Subject: Re: Free Dog Training Book

HOWEDY Master Of Deception blankman you miserable
lying dog abusing punk thug coward active acute
long term incuralble MENTAL CASE,

T*.@dog-play.com wrote:
> Since free dog training books

YOU SEZ "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR".

You gonna STICK TO YOUR OWN WORDS AGAIN,
Master Of Deception blankman you miserable
lying dog abusing mentally ill word weasel?

Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G 34D2527A

Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you
need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO
arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so
study it well and do and follow ALL the
EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a
PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100%
CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for
all handlers and all dogs in all fields
or utilities and behaviors all over the
Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ ) >

> seem to be "in" at the moment,

Seems YOUR book sellin business is goin S-HOWETH
on you, eh Master Of Deception blankman, since
The Amazing Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED
and DISCREDITED you and your miserable lying dog
abusing opportunist shelter / rescue / foster care
dog lover PROFITEERS you dog abuse spammer.

Ain't it.

> I thought I'd write one.

Might as well seein as The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual has cost
you so many BOOK TAPE and VIDEO SALES from off your
miserable stinkin viciHOWES commercial SPAM web site.

You've been hawking some of the most vulgar viciHOWES
"information" on animal abuse in creation, Master Of
Deception blankman.

Like tellin folks to cut POOP in half lengthWIZE
and put tabasco sauce in it and FEED IT back to
the dog and give IT MSG (a FLAVOR ENHANCER) instead
of UNSEASONED MEAT TENDERIZER (Bromelain / Pappaine)

THEN when The Amazing Puppy Wizard TOLD YOU of your
MISTAKE, YOU SEZ you wasn't a PROFESSIONAL and DON'T
KNOW enough abHOWET DOG BEHAVIOR to EDIT INFORMATION
you SELL on your SPAM website.

ISN'T THAT CORRECET Master Of Deception blankman.

YOU STILL GONNA STICK TO YOUR OWN WORDS Master Of
Deception blankman? WE GOT IT ALL IN The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's Archives on Google and other FINE
PUBICLY ARCHIVED UNCENSORED news group search engines.

> MY DOG TRAINING BOOK

You're a fraud a liar a dog abuser and mental case
AS The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ. You got NO credibility
NO informatin NO ideas NO morals ethics or principles
You got NUTHIN but PAIN FEAR FORCE MISERY and DEATH to
offer J.Q. Pubic <{); ~ ) >

> Be patient

That's EZ to say when YOU GOT NO METHOD
and CAN'T TRAIN your own dogs Master Of
Deception blankman, doggy shelter foster
care and trainin NETWORKER.

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

> and consistent.

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

"That's Why We Try To Almost Always Use Positive
Reinforcement Rather Than Punishement, "professor
lying doc SCRUFF SHAKE And SCREAM 'NO!' Into Its
Face For 5 Seconds And Lock IT In A Box For Ten
Minutes Contemplation" dermer.

You mean BE CONSISTENT when you ALMOST ALWAYS
TRY to use PURE POSITIVE PLEASURE and MIX IT
UP with JUST A LITTLE PURE POSITIVE PUNISHMENT,
Master Of Deception blanman?

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHHAHAHAA!!!

You mean BE CONSISTENT LIKE THIS:

"He Was Next To Me And I Could See His Neck Muscles Pulsing.
I can't Imagine Needing Anything Higher Than A 5 Even With
An Insensitive Dog Like A Lab. I Had A Pointer Ignore A
Neck-Muscle-Pulsing 9."

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20

g*.@my-deja.com wrote:
> How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

THAT'S Master Of Deception style CONSISTENCY FOR YOU.

> If you don't mean it, don't say it.

The critter with the THUMBS got the perogative
to CHANGE HIS MIND any time he LIKES. It's the
FUR COVERED BABYS who got to ADAPT to changed
minds Master Of Deception blankman <{); ~ ) >

DID you mean "IF YOU DON'T MEAN IT DON'T SAY IT"
or did you MEAN TO SAY "if you don't mean it or
someWON OBJECTS to what you just said on accHOWENT
of it's STUPID DANGERHOWES AND CRUEL just FEEL FREE
to CHANGE YOUR MIND and DENY WHAT YOU JUST SAID like
HOWE your own personal real life shelter / rescue /
sar dog trainer pal does RIGHT HERE:

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

*(A correction? Like goin "Unh unh" or "Aak!?
The correction leah uses is a sharp "Eh!")

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.

"Unfortunately, some confrontation is necessary,
just to be able to handle the dogs. For example,
we need to crate train a dog immediately because
they are usually in need of medical care and they
are in foster homes with other dogs. It's a safety
necessity," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

Lynn K. wrote:

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
Lynn K.

Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
<news:04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>...

Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
quotes are true.

In the posts below you take responsibility for
making those calls.

In your post above, you state you do not
make those calls.

Which one is it?

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAHAAAA!!!

"BE CONSISTENT", eh Master Of Deception blankman?

You mean LIKE THIS?:

"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
> Janet Boss

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...

> "J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher than
> > > a 5 with it, even with an insensitive dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had apointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

From: "sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:43:01 -0500
Subject: Re: E-Collars - with Vibrator?

"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@mb-m17.aol.com...

> > I can't imagine needing anything higher than a
> > 5 with it, even with an insensitive dog like a Lab.
> I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

Hm. Just out of curiosity, under what circumstances,
and at what distance?

Personally, I'd be inclined to suspect collar failure
if that happened, especially if the dog was at a distance
and/or if there were trees or some other terrain which
could affect range.

From: sionnach (rhyfe...@email.msn.com)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST

> And Sally responded:
> >Who said that? I would never do or recommend
> >that, and neither would most of the regulars on here.
> >Sally Hennessey

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

> I've posted my entire quote, since Patch failed to do so.
> Take it out of context and you'd think I was flinging puppies
> across the room!

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

> here's what I said (keep in mind that we're talking about a
> 12 week old ~25# FCR puppy):
> A small scruff shake is appropriate if he's
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> very persistant.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
it clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?

I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy is very
persistant, it can be appropriate to take hold of the
loose skin at the back of the neck and give a slight
shake to the *skin*".

Janet's not talking about actually shaking
the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
abusive."

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

That's INSANE. Ain't it. So's this, here's professor
of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research at UofWI marshall
"SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face for five
seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation"
dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

"The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context"

You're a liar and dog abusing mental case.

> Pay attention to your dog.

You mean "to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"
LIKE HOWE when you lock IT in a box and jerk and choke
and shock and spray aversives into ITS face and restrict
food water and toilet area and IGNORE HIS CRIES Master
Of Deception blankman?

"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest?

"With him, words play no torturing tricks...., "
--John Galsworthy.

Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...

Their behaviors reflect HOWER words, actions
and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE,
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

> The time to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing

You miserable obsfucationist. You're a FRAUD.

Critters DON'T DO STUFF for NO REASON. It SEZ SO
in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

STOPPIN A BAD BEHAVIOR DOESN'T TRAIN the FUR COVERED
BABY Master Of Deception blankman, that REINFORCES IT
and TEACHES the dog HOWE to command 100% of your undivided
PURE POSITIVE PUNISHMENT attention on accHOWENT of YOU
DON'T WANT TO REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR by PRAISING the dog
for it IN ADVANCE to MAKE YOU STOP HIM from DOIN IT
AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN on accHOWENT
OF YOU PREFER "to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"
which TEACHES THEM TO DO IT to make YOU "to stop your dog
from doing the wrong thing" AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

JUST LIKE HOWE DaveR DISCOVERED THIS WEEK.

THAT'S HOWE COME YOU NEED PATIENCE, Master Of
Deception blankman, on accHOWENT of YOUR METHOD
REINFORCES and INCREASES BAD BEHAVIORS and MAKES
DOGS HYPERACTIVE and AFRAID.

AVOIDING and REWARDIN behavior problems with
alternate incompatible behaviors, toys, treats
"to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"
REINFORCES THEM Master Of Deception blankman.

Seems YOUR FREE BOOK TEACHES BAD BEHAVIORS <{); ~ ) >

Hey? THIS is the FIRST TIME you BEEN RIGHT:
"You GET what you PAY for" REMEMBER? You
STUCK TO YOUR WORD for THE FIRST TIME in
your miserable lying dog abusing mentally
ill life, Master Of Deception blankman.

> is before that wrong thing happens.

You mean AVOID TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES like
PLAYIN HIDE THE WEENIE with destructive
chewin an poison proofin "to stop your dog
from doing the wrong thing" like HOWE you SEZ.

> If you are paying attention to your dog you will
> know when your dog is thinking about doing the
> wrong thing.

DOGS DON'T DO WRONG THINGS Master Of Deception blankman:

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

> You are teaching a dog, not a furry human.

Well then PERHAPS THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM you miserable
lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case:

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

> Don't bother to yell.

Yeah, but jerking choking shocking bribing crating
surgically sexually mutilating intimidating and
murdering dogs is O.K. so long as it FEELS RIGHT
to you and your mental case pals?

Sorry, it must be a touch of The Puppy Wizard's
SYNDROME, it effects humans JUST LIKE HOWE it
does your dogs. HOWEver, your SUPREME IGNORANCE
and PATHETIC ARROGANCE causes The Amazing Puppy
Wizard to become FRUSTRATED like HOWE your METHODS
make your dogs HYPERACTIVE.

> If you don't think your dog can hear you take your
> dog to the vet for a hearing test. Otherwise, speak
> clearly and distinctly, not loudly.

HOWE DOES YOUR DEAF MUTE PAL sindy SADIST MOOREON
train her dogs to PERFECTION withHOWET YELLIN?:

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right,
Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very
Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap.
About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up"

THAT'S YOUR PERSONAL REAL LIFE PAL sindy SADIST
MOOREON, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on K9WEB.COM.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!

> Make the right easy, and the wrong difficult.

"to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"

You mean AVOID behaviors of the cunning domestic puppy
dog you don't have the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit Master Of
Deception blankman <{); ~ ) >

> Your dog needs lots of opportunity to practice good manners,

Is THAT HOWE COME you SELL CRATES an tell folks
to lock their dogs in and jerk and choke them
on pronged spiked pinch choke collars or spray
them with aversives YOU SELL on your website?

THAT'S INSANE.

> that means living with you.

"to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"

You're blowin grey smoke up HOWER arses again.

> Pay attention to your dog's needs.

A dog is a dog you miserable lying dog abusing mental case.

You think dogs NEED MENTAL CASES like you to jerk
choke shock spray aversives in their faces and lock
them in boxes and try to get HOWET callin THAT,
training, Master Of Deception blankman <{); ~ ) >

> Your dog is a pack animal.

Yeah? HOWE'S THAT when you lock IT in a box? NO.
THEY'RE A DEN ANIMAL. REMEMBER? You lock your dogs
in boxes and IGNORE THEIR CRIES or HURT them for
makin NOISE on accHOWENT of "DOGS LOVE THIER DENS".

REMEMBER, Master Of Deception blankman.

> That is important in understanding your dogs needs.

"to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"

You're full of crap. Ever heard of a LONE wolf?

> Your dog's most natural language is body language.

Your most natural language are lies EXXCUSES and obsfucation.

> To your dog everything relative to your body is important.

Like that creamy peanut butter smeared between
your butt cheeks to teach your dog to follow you.

> The dog gets a different meaning when you
> stand up straight vs. when you bend over.

Well isn't that very interesting. The Amazing
Puppy Wizard sets DHOWEN when HE trains a dog.

> It is different to face a dog head on than to
> face it sideways. It is different to talk
> standing up vs squatting down.

That so? You're SO full of crap.

> Timing is critical.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

You mean KNOWIN WHEN TO HURT the dog.

> The closer in time between the dog's behavior
> and your reaction

"to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"

> the more clearly the dog will understand the connection.

"to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing"

Oh? Well then THAT EXXXPLAINS HOWE COME you
REINFORCE BAD BEHAVIORS when you CONSTANTLY
SUPERVISE and PREVENT BAD BEHAVIORS and STOP
the behaviors you DON'T WANT.

THANK YOU for makin THAT clear Master Of Deception blankman.

> It isn't that dog's can't remember,

Oh? You gonna teach us HOWE to train ANY dog NEARLY
INSTANTLY by stopping "your dog from doing the wrong
thing" and lockin IT in a box and denying and withholdin
food water a toilet and attention affection Master Of
Deception blankman?

HOWE would YOU like to be raised in a box
and bribed choked shocked and ignored like
HOWE YOU tell folks to do to their dogs
Master Of Deception blankman?

> but they usually they are not making the
> connection a human might.

Oh? SHAAAZZZAAAMMM! THAT'S HOWE COME YOU ALMOST
ALWAYS TRY to use positive reinforcement as you
respond INSTANTLY to EVERY BAD BEHAVIOR "to stop
your dog from doing the wrong thing".

THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS DO BAD THINGS Master Of
Deception blankman you miserable FREE dog trainin
WHORE.

> Be patient and consistent.

On accHOWENT of YOU CAN'T TRAIN A DOG if
you don't TREAT IT as a little furry baby.

> Inconsistency leads to confusion

Like when you mix UNCONDTIONAL LOVE TRUST and RESPECT
with a little BRIBERY ISOLATION CONSTANT REPRESSION
AVOIDANCE and apupriate PUNISHMENT on accHOWENT of
dogs AIN'T LITTLE FUR COVERED BABYS.

> and that is YOUR fault, not the dog's fault.

WE DON'T BLAME FOLKS OR THEIR DOGS WE BLAME THEIR METHODS
INTENDED "to stop your dog from doing the wrong thing" rather
than LEARNING HOWE to use ONLY PRAISE LOVE TRUST and DEMONSTRATED
SELF DISCIPLINE to train HOWER furry babies you dog abusing
mental case.

> _________________________
> Yes, the first and last lines are supposed to be the same.

On accHOWENT of YOU GOT NUTHIN TO SAY. You're a FRAUD even
for FREE you lying dog abusing obstructionist.

YOU REPEAT YOURSELF when you run HOWETA IDEAS INFORMATION
and METHODS on accHOWENT of you're blowin smoke up HOWER
arses again you miserable lyin dog abusing mental case.

> Without patience and consistency nothing else matters.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

> --
> Diane Blackman
> <SNIP CRAP SPAM LINKS>
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@mb-m17.aol.com...

> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher
> > My dogs are not human children wearing
> > fur- they are DOGS.

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL
LYING DOG ABUSERS HURT and MURDER.

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.

"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the
whole cruelty thread again so I'll state my opinion once and
won't defend it further: any method can be cruel for some
dogs.

Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but we've come a long way since then. She trusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.

Is it time for that?

What might I look for to tell?"

"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...

> After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
> Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
> is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
> keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
> up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological--
> and the vet agrees.
> --Lia

"Seeing Dogs In Terms Of Their Pain And Suffering"

HOWEDY lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn,

j*.@yahoo.com wrote:
> Lucy, the problem is that you are seeing
> dogs in terms of their pain and suffering.

Well then, let's look at it from the DOG'S point
of view, THEM considering the TERMS of their human's
PAIN and SUFFERING:

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-depression)
requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day.
I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to learn more,
while happily sharing pertinent information I have learned.

But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope that every
other reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the easily
understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways."

Lynn K.

> That teaches you only about humans who mistreat dogs.

LIKE THIS:

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

"Unfortunately, some confrontation is necessary,
just to be able to handle the dogs. For example,
we need to crate train a dog immediately because
they are usually in need of medical care and they
are in foster homes with other dogs.

It's a safety necessity."

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

> It teaches you nothing at all about who dogs are
> or how to work with them.

You mean, LIKE THIS:

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

Lynn K.

> You have to experience the glory of achieving
> difficult things with dogs to know what incredible
> creatures they are and how they behave in partnership
> with us.

DOGS DO NOT "PARTNER" WITH MENTAL CASES LIARS COWARDS
and DOG ABUSERS, lying "I LOVE KOEHELR" lynn, they TURN
ON THEM.

LIKE THIS:

<"Terri"@cyberhighway> dogsnuts wrote:
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
posts of Marylin Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marylin for
putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
we would not have had to hold the head of a really
magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
behind fake names are more honest than people that use
their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that
people like Jerry Howe and Marylin Rammell are going to
just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and actually
> admit to buying and having success with his little black
> box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
would never believe the results, so you'll never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming to
> him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I
get to listen to the box first?)

OR they RUN HOWET on them AND GET DEAD.

LIKE THIS:

"misty" <Momisty> wrote in message news:

16990-3CAB1F8C-1@

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
I do know she's not here with us. I really
can't blame anyone here for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern
had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

=====================

misty" <Momisty@ wrote in message

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.

Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not
want to come back in the yard and would run
for days.

The last time, Peach didn't come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn
how to train my dog. She is now border trained.
A few minutes each day reinforces her desire
to stay in the yard.

She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop
her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes
when we walk around the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much
I hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can't
get a regular fence then you need to train your
dog.

I will never rely on an electronic collar to
keep my dog in our yard again.

The price was too high:-( ~misty

=====================

THEY DO STUFF LIKE THAT on accHOWENT of
STUFF MENTAL CASES LIKE YOU DO TO THEM.

LIKE THIS:

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20

g*.@my-deja.com wrote:
> How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.
The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
for the good of its victims,
may be the most oppressive.
Those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end,
for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." -
- C.S. Lewis.

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon.

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
can be judged by the way
its animals are treated." ~ Mohandas
Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from his FREE
copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ ) >

Force training JERRYIZES dogs...
and GETS THEM DEAD.

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.

"If you've got them by the balls
their hearts and minds
will follow,"
John Wayne.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >


Bunny
2005-07-27 16:29:20 EST
Thanks, but I've had dogs all of my life, (literally....I've seen pics
of a shepard type dog curled up in my crib!) and can't in good
conscience, give credance (sp?) to a man who says a dog is a dog. They,
like children, have unique personalities, charecteristics and
temperments, perhaps even different ways of learning. Like people. And
these have been reinforced in breeds for years, and compounded,
perhaps, in mixes.

She voluntarily goes into her crate, it's not a "box at all, but an
open type Medwest cage with a solid floor. In fact I recently left her
blanket out of it once after washing it, and I caught her trying to
drag it back towards the cage.She burries treats and toys in the folds
of her blanket, and when my boys are very rowdy, will even nose the
door open and go into it of her own volition. She's in ti more often
with the door open then when its closed. Thank you, but I see we have
diiferent ideas about dogs and what I want is a simple response, not an
indoctrination into your ideals.

Bunny


YourConscience
2005-07-27 18:29:47 EST
HOWEDY bunny,

Bunny wrote:
>
> Thanks,

Please DO NOT THANK The Amazing Puppy Wizard, bunny. HE
DOES IT ALL for HIS OWN PERSONAL PLEASURE. The THANKS go
to yourself for making this ALL possible <{); ~ ) >

> but I've had dogs all of my life,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard got 45 years SPECIALIZING
in temperament and behavior problems in mostly giant
breed working dogs and has developed the fastest gentlest
most effective non physical scientific and psychological
techniques to CURE ALL temperament and behavior problmes
NEARLY INSTANTLY <{); ~ ) >

> (literally....I've seen pics of a shepard type dog curled
> up in my crib!) and can't in good conscience, give credance
> (sp?) to a man who says a dog is a dog.

INDEED? Perhaps WON should be wary of those who's own
dogs PISS IN THEIR OWN BEDS when they AIN'T HAPPY. We
got a INSANT DIAGNOSIS availabe to PROVE the POINT, bunny.

TAKE YOUR DOG TO THE VET AND GET HIS HEALTH CERTIFIED and
THEN you ONLY GOT YOUR OWN PERSONAL BEHAVIOR to BLAME for
your dog BEING UNHAPPY, bunny <{); ~ ) >

We're talkin SCIENCE, not OPINION or PREFERENCE.

> They, like children, have unique personalities,

So HOWE COME your dog, LIKE YOUR CHILDREN is UNHAPPY?

EITHER THAT or SHE'S SICK and you're bein CRUEL by
NOT TAKIN IT to the VET for her MEDICAL TREATMENT.

Are you PROCRASTINATING on MEDICALLY CARING for your
ADOPTED NEW DOGGY, bunny? THAT WOULD BE CRUEL, would
it NOT?

STRESS CAUSES urinary and bladder tract inflamations.

> charecteristics and temperments,

Those are SHAPED by HOWE we RAISE them, bunny.

> perhaps even different ways of learning.

And your EXXXPERIENCE with "different ways of learnin"
is WHOAT, sleepin in a crib with a dog curled up?

> Like people.

Like the PEOPLE The Amazing Puppy Wizard has QUOTED
HURTING INTIMIATING and MURDERING DOGS JUST LIKE YOU
GOT, and LYIN abHOWET IT, bunny?

> And these have been reinforced in breeds for years,

You mean those SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED from
generations after generations of selectively bred
CHUMPION STOCK who NEED TO BE SHOCKED EAR PINCHED
BEATEN and CHOKED by EXXXPERT TRAINERS to MAKE THEM
HUNT, bunny?

> and compounded, perhaps, in mixes.

You gonna blame your dog BEIN UNHAPPY and PISSIN
IN YOUR BED on the dichotomy of breed mixtures
she's stressed by accordin to her BREED MIX, bunny?

You think the PROBLEM is she's TORN between the
Beagel's inability to be HOWEsbroken with the
terriors uncontrollable drives, bunny?

You think she's jumpin up on your bed to hunt
vermin and marks her terrotory as a warnin to
other Beagle mixes?

> She voluntarily goes into her crate,

THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM AS YOU SEEN in DaveR's
REPLY to The Amazing Puppy Wizard detailing HOWE
COME his DOCILE PUPPY was GOIN INSANE.

You CANNOT lock a dog in a box and ignore his
cries and SCHEDULE IT and RESTRICT FOOD WATER
BREAK area and scold and punish IT when IT cries.

> it's not a "box at all, but an open type Medwest cage
> with a solid floor. In fact I recently left her blanket
> out of it once after washing it, and I caught her trying
> to drag it back towards the cage.

DOGS HIDE IN THEIR BOXES to be SAFE from their ABUSERS.
IT REINFORCES THEIR PHOBIAS and INTENSIFIES them <{); ~ ) >

> She burries treats and toys in the folds of her blanket,

Dogs HIDE their VALUABLES from folks THEY DON'T TRUST.

> and when my boys are very rowdy,

Is THAT on accHOWENT of different personalities
and LEARNING METHODS that you're familiar with?

> will even nose the door open and go into it of her own volition.

TO HIDE, on accHOWENT of she FEELS SAFE in there.

> She's in ti more often with the door open then when its closed.

HIDING. THAT REINFORCES HER PHOBIAS and THAT'S HOWE COME
SHE PISSES IN YOUR BED. You'll NOTICE she AIN'T PISSIN IN
HER OWN BED <{); ~ ) >

> Thank you,

You're WELCOME, bunny. The PURE POSITIVE PLEASURE IS ALL
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's <{); ~ ) > Too bad your dog
and children will SUFFER your IGNORANCE to defend your
false pride like the rest of HOWER DOG LOVERS <{); ~ ) >

> but I see we have diiferent ideas about dogs

YOUR DOG IS PISSIN IN YOUR BED. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's STUDENTS dogs NEVER have HOWEsbreakin
"ACCIDENTS" on accHOWENT of HOWEsbreakin is
INSTINCTIVE at four weeks of age.

Dogs ONLY have "HOWEsbreakin ACCIDENTS" when
they're SICK or UNHAPPY <{); ~ ) >

Get your dog to the VET, MOMMY DEAREST.

> and what I want is a simple response,

You mean a MAGICK BULLET? You mean, like a
75 page manual that'll teach you to TRAIN
YOUR KIDS as well as your dog and SP-HOWES?

SEEMS YOU DON'T LIKE THAT.

> not an indoctrination into your ideals.

Tsk tsk, bunny. You SEZ you wanted HEELP for
your dog's UNHAPPY PISSIN BEHAVIOR. THEN when
YOU GOT IT, you REJECTED IT on accHOWENT of
IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE AN ABUSER, which is
AGREED TO by YOUR OWN DOG'S BEHAVIOR, bunny.

"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest?

"With him, words play no torturing tricks..., "
--John Galsworthy.

Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

> Bunny

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

Everything we've been taught about dog behavior is DEAD WRONG.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINES


"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

UNSKILLED AND UNAWARE OF IT: HOW DIFFICULTIES IN
RECOGNIZING ONE'S OWN INCOMPETENCE LEAD TO INFLATED
SELF-ASSESSMENTS

Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants
scoring in the bottom quartile... grossly overestimated
their best performance and ability. Although their test
scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated
themselves to be in the 62nd.

- Never attribute to malice that which can be
adequately explained by stupidity.

- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is
indistinguishable from malice.

- Insufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable
from incompetence.

Starry's Scary Night
Subject: letter about crate

Anyone reading this letter is familiar with
my white shepherd Starr and her problems
with fear and anxiety.

Starr has made a lot of progress since my
last letter and continues to make progress
almost daily.

For a while Starr was going through a
transition period where she was expecting
me to go back to the old ways of training
and discipline.

She would refuse to perform the
commands right and just not want to work.

With a ton of self-control I kept the
exercises simple during this time, spending
most of our training session doing the "hot
and cold exercise."

Starr soon bounced out of her unsure
sliding-back-and-forth stage and is stable
now.

The reason for this letter is to talk a
bout crates and the emotional state they
can put a dog in.

Only after I dealt with the crate situation
I'll be explaining was Starr able to make real
progress.

After that the back sliding mentioned above
was only a matter of time, patients and being
consistent.

First let me just say that I'm not saying
that you shouldn't use a crate. Only that you
make sure to use it right for the emotional state
of your dog.

Ever since Starr was a pup whenever I
left her alone I put her in her crate. If we had
company Starr went in her crate because she
was not friendly and would bark and hide.

Nights she also spent in her crate which
seemed like a retreat to her, a comfort zone.
But that false sense of security made the
world outside her crate seem all the more
scary.

Starr was unintentionally "taught" that
whenever something was unusual in the
house that she was to go to her "safe place"
and then everything would be all right.

The problem became evident when we
got Starr home afterher training in FL. Starr
was so much more confident in herself. But
her fear was triggered by all her past feelings
associated with her familiar surroundings.

Mr. Howe told me to expect Starr might
back-slide and to simply keep working her
until she came around.

I worked with my dog but at night I put
her in her crate. The next morning all the
work I had been through the day before,
and whatever progress she had made
seemed to have disappeared.

I spoke to Mr. Howe about what was
going on and he explained that the false
sense of security Starr got from the crate
was making her fear the outside world.

When she got in the crate she felt safe,
after all that was where I put her whenever
something was unstable [if I left, company
etc..] When she came out she was leaving
behind that security.

At first I was going to try to recondition
her to being in the crate but I was so afraid
of all the training and confidence she got in
FL being lost that I decided to just stop using
the crate. So I left her in my bed room instead.

She was not comfortable with this at first.
It seemed like she felt she didn't know where
she belonged and that made her anxious.

But using the "surrogate toy" technique and
sound distraction and praise cured her of this
anxiety in less then a half hour.

Now Starr is comfortable and content to
hang out alone in my room. She's not emotionally
confined to just my bed or to her doggy bed and
she is not at all destructive.

I am lucky that Starr's separation anxiety
was never expressed in messing or chewing,
though once she took my violin shoulder rest
from my closet and kept it with her on my bed.

She did, however tip over my waste basket twice.
Both times I addressed the expression as it says in
Jerry's manual and that's no longer a problem.

Crystal Arcidy

=======================

"Linda" <llindaleedan...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:3c317fe4.0301072210.7f7ef069@posting.google.com...

> I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
> dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
> I do not know what started the problem but he came
> aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
> snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
> and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
> ad I took him with me everywhere.

> At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
> Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
> clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
> it was not working on his aggression problem.

> I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
> trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.

> They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
> and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
> suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
> working as he was becoming more aggressive.

> I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph.D. 400 miles
> away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
> on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
> use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

> I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG ARE FROM
> NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE LEASH", ETC looking for
> help.

> We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal Behavior
> Clinic and they said he had fear aggression, punishment would
> not work, use the gentle leader and when out walking and he got
> stressed have the people stop until he could get in control using
> treats, and work on clicker training.

> At that point I knew more about clicker training and using the
> gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he would
> not come when I called him and would run away when I tried
> to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the neighborhood
> as we had become that "mean dog and women who hasn't> trained
> her dog"

> I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
> were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
> were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
> said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
> say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
> responsible for him."

You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.

> As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
> going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
> Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
> Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
> He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
> not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.
> The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
> I had been working for 18 months!

> Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
> from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
> I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
> blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
> can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

> I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
> -the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
> looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
> on by.

> When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
> me like "you must be out of your mind".

> The results can make a believer!!! Three weeks since
> beginning the Wits End Training Manual program I walked
> him without the gentle leader in a busy shopping area with
> many dogs. He just seemed to not notice any one.

> When people talked to him or ask his name he would
> look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.

> I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
> enjoy life out in public.

> If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
> was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
> Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
> toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.

> My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
> dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
> out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
> I know most people would have given up on him a long time
> ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
> but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

> I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

================================

From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-- can you just see me
yelling at people to stop on the street until I get his
attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

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Thursday, September 12, 2002 2:27 PM
some good news :^) -kinda long though

Hi Jerry,

I've been really focusing on using the sound
when Starry breaks the heel and its amazing
how it calms her down.

She's gained so much self control from it.

I wanted to tell you of some of her latest triumphs.

Last week my car died while I was out and
while we waited for my dad Starr had a good
and unplanned training session. First she
saw fellow GSD, barked and settled after I
praised then made a sound distraction and
more praise.

The next time she saw that dog she
did not bark! I was very surprised.

Then she saw another dog and it worked
the same way as with the GSD. I told her "its
friends good girl" and she allowed a person
to walk very close to my car without barking
or [more importantly] getting nervous.

The other day, while I was working with
Starr a small child went by us slowly on a
little bike about 7-10 ft from us [Starr between
the child and me and heeling perfectly].

I said it was friends and Starr was completely
cool with it, didn't flinch or even look on the
child cautiously. Then the mother came up,
again I assured Starr that it was a friend.

As soon as the woman was parallel with
us she stopped, put her hands to her face
and called loudly to the kid. Starr looked over
with a hint of caution and I made a distraction
and praise and she relaxed and continued
walking with me.

Later I was standing by my car. Starr was
not on command. Two people were walking
toward us. I put Starr in a sit stay, told her it
was friends and praised her as she calmly
watched the couple pass. They were about
the length of my car away from us.

I was in my car, about to leave when
the same couple went back the other way.
With Starr inside the car I expected her to
by a little protective of "her space" so I
readied a sound distraction and waited.

She saw them and laid down in the back seat
contentedly.

Last time we were working on heeling and
stays and a truck drove right up to us and
stopped leas then 10 ft away. I placed Starr in
a sit stay by my side, did the relaxation touches
and praised her. The man was talking to me
about Starr [the common question "is that a
white shepherd? I've never seen one before!"

Then his all black shepherd started barking
at Starr. At first she was a bit nervous, I saw it
in her face and I snapped my fingers and praised,
and said it was friends. She calmed down and
remained in the sit position.

I was so proud!

They truck drove off and I asked Starr to heel
then released her.

I was so nervous about working her around
people not long ago. Mostly afraid that I would
mess her up. And this summer has been tough
and busy because of other things so that I
wasn't able to give Starr my full attention. But
she's really making progress fast.

I'm training her not to enter into my car until
I say and not to get out of the car until I say. I
think and hope this will lessen the anxiety she
feels about getting out in a new or "scary" place.
I'll let You know how she does with it.

Crystal Arcidy

=======================

Here's another update on Starr's Story:
----- Original Message -----
From: Crystal
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:39 PM
Subject: (no subject)

I love to play the piano. The problem was
that Starr, my white GSD got impatient and
didnt like all my attention being on something else.

When I'd play for more then 20 minutes without
stopping she'd pace around the room and whine.

She'd look straight at me whining loudly, wagging
her tail and sometimes stomping her feet.

I mentioned it to Jerry and he told me how to
handle it. What I had to do was break her 20 minutes
tolerance time just before it was up in order to restart
her clock.

I started playing and played for about
18 minutes then stopped, closed the book
and the cover for the keys, walked across
the room busied myself for just a moment
before returning to the piano, opening the
cover and a book and starting to play again.

Starr watched me as I did this. She was
distracted from her set time limits, but she
didn't know that my actions had anything
to do with her, which is good since in this
case the whining was an attention getting
device.

And so she stayed in the room with me,
comfortable and relaxed, not concerned with
the fact that she wasn't getting any attention.

15 minutes later I got up and walked away
from the piano. I took a book from the shelf
and went back to sit at my piano.

Starr again watched me until I started playing.
I played for a few minutes longer then stood and
turned my attention to my dog and asked if she
wanted to come with me as I left the room.

I planned to do this exercise a few more
times over the next coupleof days but there
was no need.

As of yet Starr has not returned to whining
and pacing. She simply lays down or watches
out the window while I practice, and happy to
get attention when I turn to her or when I'm done.

I'd like to note that a while ago, before we
found the Wits' End Training Method, if Starr
heard the piano from another room she would
whine or bark to get me to come back.

It seemed to cause her anxiety to hear the
piano and know that I was going to be away
from her for as long as she heard it. But she
was uncomfortable in the room where the
piano is because it was formerly off limits to
her while she was being house broken.

Even though she has been allowed in the
room for a long time she was never content
being in there for long.

Now if she hears the piano and she's not
in the room with me she comes and finds me,
says hi with a kiss, wagging tail and happy face
then makes herself comfortable as I play.

The above problem may seem small but its
another way in which Starr has grown calmer
which is great and I can play my music without
Starr singing in the background which made it
hard to concentrate.

Crystal Arcidy


To whom it may concern,

My name is Crystal Arcidy and I am the
proud owner of a beautiful 3 year old white
German Shepherd named Starr.

I am writing to inform you of a training
method that is truly amazing. Starr is by
nature very cautious and fearful and
because of this and my not knowing how
to handle it she became environmentally
shy as well.

Before Starr came into my life I never would
have believed that a dog could be the way
she was unless it had been badly abused
or trained to be aggressive.

Now I'm finding out more and more that there
are lots of dogs with serious behavior problems
who were never abused, but mishandled.

Before I tell you about my experience with
Jerry Howe, Doggy Do Right, and the Wits
End Dog Training Technique I would like to
relate to you Starr's story so you'll have a
better understanding as to what I was dealing
with:

Starr was three months old when I brought
her home from a local pet shop. A few days
later a friend came by to see her and that was
when I first saw that Starr was by no means friendly.

She was so shy she tried to pull away and hide.
I was told that dogs go through a "fear stage"
and thought that was all I was dealing with.

But after a week or two Starr began barking
protectively at guests and neighbors from
inside the house.

The only way I could stop the barking, and
later howling, was if I picked her up and
held her.

Outside Starr's behavior was not protective
it was horribly fearful. It got to the point that
when I would ask, "You want to go outside?"
Starr would run the other way and dodge me
so I would make her go.

She went out only to relieve herself and then
she'd dash back to the house. I could not take
her for walks and she wouldn't even sit on my
back deck without crying.

Starr was afraid of other dogs, people, cars,
loud noises, open spaces....everything. I was
sure that she had the potential of becoming
a fear biter and that worried me.

I spoke with an amateur dog trainer who said
that shepherd's are sometimes fearful as
puppies, especially females, and that training
and socializing would help.

She said I could bring Starr to the vet and
just sit with her so she could watch the other
dogs. But Starr was a nervous wreck in the vets.

She would get in a corner and shake terribly.
It didn't seem like it was helping at all with
my dog's anxiety and I asked the vet what
to do to get her over her fears.

The doctor recommended a trainer/behaviorist
and we called and set up a meeting. And so I
took Starr to her first trainer at six months old.

She was terrified. The trainer assured me that
he could 'get her through' her fears. He
explained to me how training would lessen
Starr's anxiety and build confidence.

Because Starr was so timid he wanted to
start out with clicker training. He said it was
the best form of training for shy dogs.

He instructed me to get a thin three foot
stick to be the focus, the object being Starr
would learn to follow the stick. Every time she
touched it with her nose she got a click and a treat.

After I got Starr home it only took about a
minute for Starr to get the idea. But these
results were restricted to inside my house.

When I took Starr outside or to her lessons
she was just too nervous to care about
eating. The reward was not worth it.

All Starr wanted was to get back to the house,
where she felt safe. When the trainer realized
that Starr was too uncomfortable at his place
he suggested we meet and work at my house.

It was then that he saw that Starr was not going
to progress using the clicker training. [Forcing
food into her mouth didn't make her want to eat
it] So he reverted to conventional methods.

*(The "BALANCED TRAINER" IOW, knows WHEN to HURT... jh.)

We started using a flat collar but with all the pulling
Starr would do the trainer quickly advised me to
purchase a choke chain. I did so and he showed
me how to use it.

I was very hesitant but he assured me that I
could not hurt the dog.

We continued working in an area Starr was
pretty comfortable in, then proceeded out to
the street. Starr was very scared and would
bolt, whine, shake horribly and grind her teeth.

All of which got corrected by a quick, sharp
jerk on the chain and a firm "No!"

Of course now I know that these firm
corrections were just creating more anxiety
for my dog. But at the time it seemed to
make sense.

After seeing how afraid Starr actually was on the
street the trainer told me to get some Serene-um,
an herbal product that would calm her down. It
took the edge off her fear, but I had to give her
beyond the dosage recommended for her weight.

The trainer said that was fine. He also told
me that putting her on adult food would help.
That way she wouldn't have as much energy
that was just being turned into nervous energy
and making her worse.

I changed her food and he later recommended senior
food. I decided against that.

The trainer told me not to speak reassuringly when
Starr was scared because she would think she was
being praised for being afraid, that I wanted that
behavior.

He told me never to praise her for barking because
it would encourage aggression.

When Starr would bark at the neighbors
dog aggressively I was to force her into
a submissive down, the Alpha Rollover,
which I was never able to maneuver.

I told the trainer that Starr was still
uncontrollable even with the choker.

Her fear seemed more important than the pain
she experienced from the collar. He suggested
getting her a Gentle Leader.

Its worn around the dog's head. I'm sure
you're familiar with the product. This gave
me more control over her bolting but when
she got spooked by something she would
pull away and reared up like a wild horse.

It was very difficult to get her to calm down
even a little after she had gone to this extreme.

I later found out that I was misdirected on
how to use the Gentle Leader.

After about seven months of this Starr had
made very little progress. She knew all the
commands and would do them perfect when
calm, but the fear and anxiety were still there
and still very much in control of her.

The trainer thought she was all right and told
me he was happy with the results. At that
point I was hardly listening to anything he said.
I knew he was trying to help but I also knew
that Starr was beyond him and I had already
set up a meeting with another trainer, one
that came highly recommended.

The second trainer referred to her place as
doggy boot camp and said that kind of
discipline and structure is what dogs,
especially dogs like Starr, really needed.

She was a breeder of German Shepherds
and several of her dogs were used in movies
and as therapy and protection dogs.

*(Our "ETHICAL" breeders... jh.)

She told me that Starr needed to get away
from me, her 'security blanket' and learn to
be on her own. She told me that when I got
Starr back she would be a totally different dog.

I left Starr for eleven days with this trainer.
When I went to pick her up I was informed
that Starr had been hiding for the first three
days of her stay. But the trainer was happy
with her progress.

When Starr was brought out I was told to
ignore her until the trainer said it was okay
and even then I couldn't pet her or kneel
down to see her. [I still don't know why.] My
formerly 65 lb. German Shepherd looked like
a Greyhound she was so thin.

But she did look much more confident. Her
face seemed relaxed, but her tail was tucked
up under her. When I asked about that the
trainer said it was nothing. She said her tail
was not suppose to curl up the way it did.

I was then informed that I needed to buy a
pinch collar and leather leash.

Starr was too strong and determined in her
pulling for me to get by with just the choker.
[ This trainer laughed at the Gentle Leader
and said it was not a training tool.]

The trainer showed me how to use the collar
and I flinched as she did and Starr let out a
sharp cry.

The trainer noticed my reaction and insisted
that she wasn't hurting my dog, saying that I
have to stop treating Starr like a 'piece of
china', saying that she was a strong dog
and needed to be told who was boss.

I accepted what she said and she proceeded
to teach me all that she had taught Starr.
She used the word 'Here' instead of 'Come'
saying that it sounded nicer to the dog and
more inviting. I was told that its best if when
called Starr comes right up close, attaining
physical contact.

Everything seemed to be going well, though I
wouldn't have said she seemed like a different
dog, until the trainer left to get Starr's old collar
for me.

When she returned Starr lunged and barked
aggressively. It took me completely by surprise.
I did not know why she was acting so aggressive.

The trainer took the leash and gave Starr a
strong reproof for that and explained to me
that some dogs [big nasty ones, she said]
acted like that when the owners came to get
them because they were afraid, on seeing
the trainer, that she would take them away
from their owners again.

This trainer also instructed me to 'punish'
Starr by ignoring her for a half hour or so
after she had been corrected for something
very bad or if she did not do good working
for me one day.

She said that dogs remember when they do
bad and that she'd learn to try harder to please me.

So I took my skinny little shepherd home
and for two months worked with her everyday
exactly as I was told.

Starr's anxiety was still profound and she
still was not happy to go for a walk or to
stay outside.

She was more confident, but only in areas
of aggression, territorialism, and being
possessive of me. [She did not like it when
my cat came into my room.]

I called the trainer to ask about barking
collars and she told me which one to buy.

After I got it she showed me how to use it
saying it must be tight. She said it would
help with Starr's aggression as well as the
barking. And for a while it was much quieter
in my house.

I did not like the way the collar sometimes
made Starr cry and I really didn't like how
if my two dogs were real close the other
dog's bark would sometimes set it off. But
it was only temporary, I thought. I always
checked for irritation on my dog's neck but
one day when I took the collar off I saw
that Starr had sores on her throat.

I kept the collar off until it was completely
healed and then used it only when I felt I
had to, and only on the lowest setting.

*(HOWE COME all these stories sound
alike??? jh.)

It wasn't long before I put it away and never
used it again. I made arrangements to bring
Starr back to her second trainer to work
together and in exchange I would help taking
care of the other dogs -cleaning and feeding
and such- but it never worked out and I am
so glad it didn't!

My next attempt to find help was after I read
a pamphlet on Ttouch. I thought, finally, this
will help! I spoke to the Ttouch practitioner
and set up an appointment. She came to the
house and evaluated Starr.

She told me it would most likely take many sessions
to get Starr over her issues. The first thing she had
me do was change from the pinch collar to a flat collar
the second thing she had me do was put a T-shirt
on my dog.

She likened the feel of shirt to getting a hug.

Starr did seem to calm down when she was wearing the
T-shirt. Looking back I realize that although Starr was
calm she was far from happy and relaxed.

I wanted to work outside, thinking it would be easier on
my dog since she got so upset when people came into
the house. But the Ttouch lady insisted we work inside
the house, saying that she had to get used to people
coming inside.

I went along with what she said, but after the
aggression brought out by the second trainer
and the pinch collar Starr was very difficult
to handle.

Next the Ttouch person showed me a few
different touches to do on Starr. She demonstrated
the touches on a large stuffed animal I had because
she couldn't get close to Starr let alone to actually
touch her.

She said that dogs keep all their stress in their
tail and I was instructed to do Ttouch on her
tail. She showed me what she called an ear
slide that would help with car- sickness and it worked.

Then she talked a lot about calming signals,
yawning, sighing etc.... Starr was uncomfortable
with this strange way of petting and cried a lot,
but the lady informed me that was normal.

The touches are designed to change the
cellular memory and Starr knew that this
was not petting. It was a 'conscious touch'.

The weirdest thing was an effort to make
Starr aware of her body. She demonstrated
on the stuffed animal [she was still unable to
touch Starr] how to wrap ACE bandages around
the animal's body so that as they moved they
would feel it and be aware of themselves.

And then there was the hair elastics around
my dog's feet to give her a better awareness
of her feet because Starr was nervous walking
on hard,smooth floors.

To address the problem I was having with
Starr pulling on the leash the Ttouch person
instructed me to take the middle of my six
foot leash in my left hand and bring it up
above Starr's left shoulder, then place the
length of the leash real low across her chest
and bring the handle up above her right
shoulder and hold it in my right hand.

The plan was to keep her front legs from
being able to move fast enough to pull.

But Starr easily backed out of this arrangement
and took off, bolting to the end of the lead.

I told the lady what was happening and she
recommended a harness.

After Starr was wrapped in bandages, wearing
a T-shirt, a muzzle and a harness we took her
out-side.

Starr was not happy. I was not happy. But
the Ttouch person said it would help so we
did it. After a month of this I gave up on
Ttouch and went back to the pinch collar
with which I had at least some control.

*(Sound typical, doesn't it... jh.)

I asked a friend to help simply by coming
over and trying to make friends with my dog.

I kept a muzzle on Starr most of the time and
eventually my friend got to pet her, though
Starr was not comfortable with it.

My friend suggested that I give Starr Passion
Flower and I tried it.

*(An EXCELLENT sleep aid... jh.)

At this point I had already tried a number of
different herbs and herbal mixtures that were
especially for dogs.

The herbs didn't make enough of a difference
and I thought about putting her on Prozac or
something like it. I decided against it because
of fears of side affects and was back where I
started, except worse because Starr was now
showing signs of aggression after working with
that second trainer.

I found another dog training place this one
claimed to be the 'Disney World for dogs'.

I went down to talk to the people there before
putting Starr through it. One of the trainers
there told me that if my dog was over two
years old and still the way she was then s
he'd be like that forever.

I was extremely discouraged by that, but I
wouldn't allow myself to believe it was true.

Needless to say Starr never went to those
trainers.

Ever since I realized that Starr was not a
normal dog I've been searching for a way
to help her get over her fears.

It became the most important thing to me.
I was sure that I would find answers and I
knew I couldn't give up. I knew I couldn't
live with her the way she was and I knew
I couldn't give her away so I just continued searching.

I read training and behavior books one after
the other. Some were very discouraging in
what they had to say about shyness in dogs.

The last book I bought was called "Help For
Your Shy Dog" and it gave an example
of a dog in recovery from fear and anxiety
and it had taken the owner/trainer five years
to get to that point!

And the dog was still a work in progress!

When I first decided to try Mr. Howe's
machine I was hopeful if not confident.
I did not want to speak to him at first
because I did not want to hear what I
heard from the other trainers. I did not
want to trust another trainer only to be
disappointed in the end.

I found Doggy Do Right on-line at a friend's
house, got the information and decided to
give it a try. I noticed within a few days,
if that long, that Starr was calmer when the
machine was on.

Things would happen that would normally
upset her and she'd give one or two barks
and then give up.

When I saw her acting calm I'd look over
at the machine and every time, at first, it
was on. After a little while of using the
machine along with the training technique
I'd check to see that the reason for her
self-controlled barking was that Doggy Do
Right was on and I was amazed to see that
it wasn't.

I was like, "Wow, she's being so good and the
thing isn't even on!" The tiny part of my crazy
dog that had some self-control, or some
semblance of ease, was growing stronger.

The training and the machine were allowing
Starr to realize that not everything in the world
is going to kill her.

As far as the training technique, it's gentle,
fast, and completely positive.

Mr. Howe's approach to training is so different
from any other form of training that even after
reading his training manual I had to call and
speak with him in order to really understand
his method and the reasoning behind it and
how to apply it with particular situations with
Starr.

I had many questions and misconceptions because
of all the other training information I got and
he took time to explain everything.

He told me that all Starr's behavioral problems
were connected and that properly handling each
one would help the others.

All the little things that I was ignoring
because, in comparison to Starr's main
problems, they seemed irrelevant I started
working on, each thing she worked through
helped to deal with the next.

Mr. Howe was very helpful and after putting
a flat collar back on my dog and working with
her a few weeks I saw a change in her general
attitude. I was glad that I was not to use a
food treat with this system, knowing that if
food was the incentive it wasn't going to work
for my dog.

Starr was much happier and relaxed without
the pinch collar and her barking was much
more controllable.

Starr, however was too difficult for me to
handle and I was not proficient at this new
form of training and I ended up taking her
to meet Mr. Howe and he worked with her.

I was surprised that Jerry was able to pet
my dog let alone work with her the first day.
For one week he had her and the change in
Starr was incredible!

She was happy and relaxed. She was willing
to work and she was much more comfortable
being around cars and people. We met on
three occasions during that week to work
together and I learned so much.

The first time we got together to work
Starr was much more content and happy.

By the end of the session Starr was willing
to go with Jerry in his car.

This impressed me because of what happened
when Starr thought the second trainer she
had was going to take her away from her family.

But she was comfortable with Jerry and the
reason for that was the way he treated her.
I was amazed while, on the last occasion
that we worked together, people walked by
my dog without upsetting her.

I was expecting her to bolt away but she
didn't. She was calm and confident as they
passed, which, for her, was a huge change.

The Wits' End Dog Training method is based
on distraction and praise. It focuses more
on the thought process than a dog following
commands.

The dog psychology Jerry has figured out
and built his method around is amazing.

I learned from him how to handle the leash
in a way so as to keep my dog calm. He
explained that because of all Starr's past
experience with training she was always
afraid of being corrected.

Tension on the leash is what caused her
to spook so I now keep the leash nice
and slack.

He taught me how and when to praise in
order to encourage thought and instill
confidence and trust.

His technique using the sound distraction
and exuberant praise gave me the answer to
the endless barking and the cat-chasing and
all without stressing out my hyper-sensitive dog.

Starr is a much happier dog and she has so
much more confidence in herself and in me
as her handler.

I will never use any other form of dog
training on any dog I ever own/train.

Mr. Howe's approach to dog training has
ended up saving many mislabeled "bad
dogs," turning them into great pets and
working dogs.

I am recommending this and only this
form of training to anyone with dogs no
matter what it is they want to accomplish
with their dogs.

As you now know I have tried everything
I could find to help my extremely nervous,
but wonderful dog and this is the only thing
that has really made a difference in Starr's
behavior and her general attitude.

As a dog lover and the owner of a so-called
"lost cause dog" I feel I must share with you
my experiences and advocate this system.

There is nothing better for disturbed dogs
and no better way of preventing bad behavior
then positive, gentle training.

I will recommend nothing else and never
again will I use any other form of training,
discipline and behavior modification.

Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Crystal Arcidy

SEE? THANK YOU, bunny. Parents of hyperactive
HOWETA CON-TROLL children REPORT gettin THE
SAME 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS
with their CHILDREN even after ALL OTHER METHODS
FAILED.

On the other hand, parents of hyperactive children
who DO NOT LIKE NOT HURTIN and INTIMIDATING THEM
DETEST The Amazing Puppy Wizard for TEACHIN THEM
the DIFFERENT WAYS individual personalites and
DIFFERENT LEARNING METHODS makes their INDIVIDUAL
children and dogs ALL GO INSANE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, bunny. The Amazing Puppy Wizard
COULDN'T DO IT withHOWET YOUR HEELP.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >


It's Only Alimentary, Dear Watson
2005-07-27 21:52:55 EST
Subject: Re: House training and such...

HOWEDY ke.ver,

"ke.ver" <Koen.Verhe...@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:kp7hb.67308$4m5.3401758@phobos.telenet-ops.be...

> aimee , i don't quite understand : when the dog pees
> or poops you tell the dog first what's that and then you
> tell him good boy , you're a good dog ;

Pretty much... it's a little MOORE complicated
than that, but the idea is close enough.

> what kind of training manual is TPW ?

Only the very best in the Whole Wild World.

> i don't see how this can help the dog ( and you )

It breaks the anxiHOWESNESS that CAUSES
all behavior problems.

"Grainne Gillespie" <demoni...@eircom.net> wrote in message
news:wzCZa.26852$pK2.42370@news.indigo.ie...

> > I've been trying to figure out what this thread has to do
> > with parenting, as well.

> > Nan

> Well, apparently he uses the same training/parenting methods
> on the dogs he trains as he does on his children

> From: Amanda [mailto:ama...@dcfwatch.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Discipline

> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:47, T__ wrote:

> funny you bring this up... i met the most wonderful
> couple.. man and wife.. he's a dog trainer.. all his life
> who uses a technique that is ONLY praise and distraction
> with some family pack exercises. They spent the day with
> us sunday helping me on my two pits... one is a
> protective/aggressive 20 month old female who is my bubby
> :) and our 7 week male pup. anyway.. not only did i nip
> any and all aggression issues in mere minutes...he and his
> wife helped me with my kids. I was and always have been a
> spanker. It is all i knew how.. i never, ever wanted to
> be.. but i was. my house/kids were out of control.. i was
> always stressed.

> Since he and his wife came down sunday we've had
> a HUGE change... for the first time the kids didn't destroy
> my house before i woke up... my 3yo was in my bed
> coloring waiting for us to wake up... this is the first time
> she ever used paper:) she usually does walls, furniture.

> Anyway.. he told me to use sound/praise.. and it works.

> I have a 6 yo, 3.5 yo who is psycho child :) and a very
> bad-a$$ 19 month old. They are all smarter than I am and
> know it :) There has not been a temper tantrum in two
> days in my house.

> You guys have no idea how great this is.

> But best of all.. this method does NOT use the evil eye
> or a tone of that is in any way short of absolute praise..
> no shouting.. not even a quiet Chloe!.. nada.. ONLY
> praise.

> They even taught my kids not to take candy unless
> i say so.. (my oldest will literally let you pierce her
> ears for candy.. it's been done twice and i keep taking
> em out) and now the bag of blow pops i forget on the
> floor in my closet (where we keep the girl's dressed)
> is still there and NO ONE has eaten one! My 3 yo is
> even helping me pick up the house.. the baby took my
> lingerie chest apart.. and she cleaned it up! first time!

> They don't even go out the open door without my offering
> it! they helped me sort laundry.. clean the living room...
> im amazed.

> The 3 yo got some yogurt from the fridge andwalked
> to our kitchen table, sat down and ate it.. she REFUSES to
> sit at the table and eat! We also taught them and the
> dogs to sit pretty so when they're climbing on my couch..
> i go Can you show me how you sit pretty??

> and they ALL hop down and show me to sit pretty with
> their feet NOT on the cofee table.. hands friggin folded.. i
> almost fell over..

> thanks for reminding me to share my joy!

> I'm not a spanker! I don't even yell! lol!

> here i picked names that shout well and i don't need em!!!

> > how old is your bub amanda? waht's the bub doing?/
> > Hello again ladies,
> > Amanda, I love your signature. I also do not spank my
> > daughter, however, she is at an age where she really is
> > asserting her independence.

> > Can anyone help with ideas of what I can do? Blessings,
> > T.

Subject: Re Discipline. Also, SLEEP!
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:38:46 -0500
From: Amanda <ama...@dcfwatch.com>

> Can you go into this a little more? How did they
> accomplish all this in one day?

My learning is progressive. I email or call him with
questions. But, i'm getting most of it myself. Something
clicked.

How would we do it with our families?

that is kind of broad.. ask me specifics... or i'd still be
typing when your kids are in college ;)

> I really have problems controlling my temper when I am
> already stressed out and then C__ is hurting me:

Me too.. i was abused... my mom was psycho... and i had
problems with anger.. i took it personally when my 6 yr old
wouldn't clean her room... i would sometimes cry is was so
strung out.. i didn't wanna spank but i didn't know what to do
instead.. so i spanked.. and then spanking didn't work.. and
then my dogs went nuts and i called this trainer and he showed
me how to do it.

pulling my hair, scratching me, slapping me, etc.

Mine hit me on purpose alot.. scratching.. climbing on me..
hurting me and then laughing.

Now as I post.. please don't think im trying to be a know it
all.. i simply wanna relay what i have learned... as it is
i've only been spank free for a week now and yell free for two
days (my neighbors two streets over are happy :)

Children, dogs, people.. they do thinks wrong because it
elicits your ultimate attention. Does your 3 year old enjoy
finger painting on walls? no... do they enjoy fighting the
minute you pick up the phone?? No.

They *know* they can command your attention.. and that's
what they want. same reason your dogs fight.. they think it
is controlling you.

Your kids want you watching their every move.. making sure
they eat.. dont talk to strangers.. because it means you are
watching THEM and not them watching you as it should be. they
should stay within x feet of you.. because they like mom and
she's cool and she keeps em safe... they shouldn't run and
expect you to chase them.. because you won't always be there
to chase them... that's how kids die or get lost.

When they learn to follow you.. it's all good.

Now, take my 19 mo old. She had this habit of sipping 4 oz
from her bottle and demanding more. if i didn't refill it..
she threw a hgue fit. Now she hands me her bottle and says
more.. and i tickle her... then i pick up her bottle and
pretend im drinking it.. i offer her a drink and snatch it
back saying MY Baba!! She wants that bottle.. so she takes it
and drinks it.. even tho i didn't refill it. we had a huge
problem with them taking things they cant have and when i
wanted it they ran... now i give the baby (19mo) my finger..
and she grabs it.. and i wiggle and shout My finger! that's
mine! Gimme it back.. playfully.. and she resists.. and i go
"Ooh.. can i have it please?" and she gives it to me and i
gleefully say Thank you! and she says you're welcome.. and i
give her the finger back... then i hand her say a lighter...
and we wrestle for a minute.. and i say... can i have that???
and she gives it over etc.

Of course sometimes she'll have a cool! book! and ill
ask can i have that.. and shell say No. and i say that's
ok! and tickle her or snap my fingers and say good girl
naya.. good job.. then ill start my game again
and wrestle and try to take it gently... then.. can i have
that??? she gives it over. this works with everything now.

> Or when he's ripping up my homework or something like
> that.

Yea... with the dog training you hide nothing.. no forced
control. you set the dog up for fail.. so you can distract
and praise and erase the thought.. same with the kids. Put
some unimportant paper all over.. when he goes to touch it..
make a sound and distract him.. then good boy, that's a nice
baby!... then repeat.. the minute he goes for the paper and
breaks the thgouth you throw him in the air and praise like
mad!

> How would I apply this in those situations? Also, what do
> you do in 'danger' situations (until you're close enough
> to distract them) - climbing on things, sticking metal
> objects into electrical outlets, trying to get into the
> oven, etc.?

Use your judgement.. if you have the distance/time to
distract... do it.. if you don't... pick them up and away..
but act like it's to throw em in the air.. so they don't know
youre forcing control by phsycially removing them... cuz when
you force control.. with the come command when you want your
dog away from something... or when you pull a dirty shoe from
your baby's mouth.. you put value on it.

Like when your kid puts a penny in its mouth.. youll try to
pry its mouth open to get it... and he'll clamp right down..
you gave that penny VALUE! it's not just a piece of crap..
mom WANTS IT!

so.. instead you make a game.. say you want em to smit it
out... walk somewhere else... attract their attention.. be
kinda sneaky... odds are the thing in their mought will get
annoying and they'll spit it out when they walk toward you...
if all else fails.. pry it outta their smiling jaws... snatch
em up away from falling down... but only when you have to..
then work realy hard to overcome that forced control.

Also don't make a big deal about it.. or else theyll learn not
only to command your attention, but also mom will always catch
me so she is watching me.. not me watching her.

> I never realized how spirited C__ was until I started
> tending other kids.

those are my kids. I have had social workers with their
degrees in child development stop offering me services cuz
they couldn't handle my kids... my friends call mine the
obstinate kids.

> They're docile kittens compared to C__! This brings up
> another question - what do you do when YOUR child is the
> bully?

if you catch it before it happens.. loud sound.. big
distraction and PRAISE. if you catch it afterward... distract
and say oh my goodness! and pay attention to the other kid...
he wont get the attention... then explain how that hurts.
odds are your kid won't hurt another kid if he truly
understands its not nice.

> C__ is always beating the other boy over the head when he
> comes over. We don't hit in anger in our family

i have.. everyone does in my family... i did it a few times
over 4 years... but that is because i didn't know how not to.
i know now.. and i wanna tell everyone i can.. so someone else
doesn't spank their kids due to a lack of knowledge.

> (we do it playfully sometimes, so we are curtailing that
> in case it is giving him ideas)

my kids, 6yo, 3yo and 19 month old, favorite game is chasing
around the house (all 4 of us) with wooden spools yelling at
the top of our lungs "I'm gonna beat your a$$.. HA HA HA... no
IM gonna beat YOUR a$$ MU HA HA HA" my neighbors prolly
think im nuts.. but the kids love it dog even plays too

> but I admit that after I have been trying to get him to go
> to sleep for 45 minutes, I get a little rough sometimes.
> It's really frustrating. He'll be dead tired - eyes
> bright red, fussy, eyes almost closing every 5 seconds.

It gets worse... they all do it around that time.. they don't
want to sleep.. andyou know what? they don't grow out of it
until they're parents :) it's one of those times you have to
use your patience and keep distracting and praising.

> So I'll take him into the bedroom, and lay down to nurse
> him. He'll nurse for about 5 seconds and then jump up and
> run to the window and start bending the blinds.

he wants you upset.. he wants your undivided attention. you
have to refuse it.. no evil eye.. no "conner" quiet or not..
no anger.. complete nonchalance.. they have to have a total
complete entire lack fo negative attention.. and all they'll
be able to do is sit back and enjoy the positive!

One shout.. one name call.. one No! and it takes awhile to
work up to the positive only.

> So I gently pick him up and lay him back down.

try not to.. but if you have to ok

> And we repeat the process over 10000 times.

when he goes to sit up.. when yous see the thought on his
face.. distract with sound and follow with praise or a song or
giggle.

> Then I get frustrated and lay him down less gently.

better than my method of plop em in the crib and let em cry.
No anger.. stay calm.. meditate, pray.. breath.. try to
remember they will not always be this small.. and youll never,
ever for anything get it back. it's what im using

> That makes him cry, which is the last straw that
> FINALLY gets him to nurse to sleep.

He got you riled up.. what he wanted.. time to sleep.

> Writing it out, I thought of something. He must have a
> lot of excess tension he needs to release before sleeping,
> and finally crying releases it for him.

no way... crying isn't a release.. sometimes.. maybe for
some people.. crying is frustration, pain, hunger,
sadness... sometimes joy.. sometimes tension.. but not
because of his life.. because he's insecure... their dealing
with negative and positive.. and thats what makes em
insecure.

> Any good ways to do this that don't involve crying?

distraction and praise.. if all else fails get up and dance..
fast for day.. slow rocking at night.

> Turning on soft music and swaying in the sling used to
> work for us, but now he either grabs at everything he can
> reach or bends over backwards until he's hanging upside
> down.

cuzhe knows what you're doing. hold him instead.. or sit him
in your lap on the bed and rock

> Putting the sling over his shoulders to prevent that
> doesn't work either. He acts like he is being tortured
> and screams and fights to get out.

because it is forced control.

> Katie


Y*@HushMail.Com
2005-07-28 03:24:36 EST
HOWEDY bunny,

Bunny wrote:
> Thanks,

You got a curiHOWES way of EXXXPRESSIN that <{): ~ ( >

> but I've had dogs all of my life,

You was askin abHOWET TROLLS.

> (literally....I've seen pics of a shepard type dog curled up
> in my crib!) and can't in good conscience, give credance (sp?)
> to a man who says a dog is a dog.

Well then you don't know much abHOWET MEN. Perhaps you've
never met WON? Or PERHAPS The Amazing Puppy Wizard AIN'T
MUCH of a MAN, eh bunny?

> They, like children, have unique personalities,

Yeah, and THEY, LIKE CHILDREN must be raies with
gentle tender loving care an STRICT SELF DISCIPLINE
as an EXXXAMPLE of HOWE WON should CONduct hisself.

Wouldn't you AGREE?

> charecteristics and temperments, perhaps even
> different ways of learning. Like people.

The US Miliary, back in the days when we had selective
service whereby HOWER friends an neighbor's would request
the voluntary service of young MEN, would train EVERY WON
EXXXACTLY THE SAME SAME, and SUCCEEDED approximately 90%
of the time even taking into CONsideration those of us who
was marginally physically or mentall fit to compete within
their apupriate average standards for behavior and work
ethic to create a highly effective cohesive workforce.

> And these have been reinforced in breeds for years,
> and compounded, perhaps, in mixes.

It's always been a curiHOWESITY to The Amazing Puppy
Wizard that DOG LOVERS would SELECTIVELY brand dogs
by their supposed BREED traits and characteristics.

That would suggest that in the US Military, all Chinese
troops would be assigned work in laundry, mess hall,
and pick and shovel work; all American Indians to
Ranger teams as snipers lookHOWETS communications and
bridge building; all black to frontline infantry
latrine and marchin band duties; all Jews in J.A.G.
purchasing and payroll; and segregate colors races
and breeds to avoid crossbreeding and aggression,
seein as they're ALL DIFFERENT and SELECTIVELY BRED
for generations <{); ~ ) >

> She voluntarily goes into her crate,

If your dog goes in his crate it's like SLAMMIN THE
DOOR IN YOUR FACE, bunny. Your dog is SUPPOSED to
WANT to ALWAYS BE AT YOUR SIDE waitin on a GOOD BOY
as you touch his anchors to refresh his CONDITIONING.

> it's not a "box at all,

Don't matter HOWE you call it. When your dog has
a CHOICE between being AT YOUR SIDE or IN HIS BED
he AIN'T RELATIN TO YOU if he's NOT AT YOUR SIDE
and you gotta ASK HOWE COME. IT AIN'T NATURAL for
your dog NOT to WANT to ALWAYS be at your side.

> but an open type Medwest cage with a solid floor.

Take this little TEST. Put a blanket on the floor,
hers if she got WON, abHOWET halfway between your
spot and her HOWES. THEN watch where she lays most
of the time. Encourage her to lie on her blanket
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM as much as you like, so
long as you don't try to "TRAIN" her to lie on it
on command as the EXXXPERTS do with their dogs to
KEEP THEM IN CON-TROLL, and you'll SEE your dog
CHOOSES the SAFETY of her HOWES over a comfey blankie
in the EXXXPOSED area EVEN UNDER your PROTECTIVE gaze
so she KNOWS she AIN'T GOT NUTHIN to worry abHOWET.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard got 45 years specializing
in temperament and behavior problems in mostly giant
breed workin dogs. Dogs DO NOT DO THINGS for NO REASON.

KNOWIN HOWE dogs THINK and LEARN makes it EZ to IDENTIFY
behavior problems by their SYMPTOMS withHOWET SEEIN the
INDIVIDUAL or WATCHIN him do his PROBLEMS to TAILOR a
"METHOD" to suit his individual personal preferences for
TRAININ. This model of training was ACCEPTABLE to Uncle
Sam in his time of need and it's working SUCCESSFULLY
for ALL The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students all over the WHOWEL
WILD WORLD as reported RIGHT HERE in their own words <{); ~ ) >

It SEZ SO in your FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> In fact I recently left her blanket out of it once after
> washing it, and I caught her trying to> drag it back towards
> the cage.

SEE? That's NO coincidence. DOGS DO NOT DO THINGS FOR NO REASON.

IT SEZ SO IN YOUR FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G 34D2527A

Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you
need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO
arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so
study it well and do and follow ALL the
EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a
PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100%
CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for
all handlers and all dogs in all fields
or utilities and behaviors all over the
Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ ) >

> She burries treats and toys in the folds of her blanket,

IT SEZ IN THE MANUAL that your dog HIDES STUFF
on accHOWENT of HE DON'T TRUST YOU. Perhaps in
your case it's on accHOWENT of your children
are UNTRUSTWORTHY in HER estimation.

> and when my boys are very rowdy, will even nose
> the door open and go into it of her own volition.

That's understandable but WRONG. I mean WONG in
the sense that she should PROBABLY WANT to Be
PLAYIN if the kids are playin. PERHAPS she goes
in there so she don't get in trHOWEBLE for playin
rough.

> She's in ti more often with the door open then when its closed.

THAT'S IRRELVENT. Crating REINFORCES and INTENSIFIES PHOBIAS.

> Thank you,

Parents have the most difficulty accepting the facts
of the matter and understandably so. An ordinary dog
owner often FEEELS he's not responsible for MISHANDLING
his dog on accHOWENT of he's only done what he read
in a book or HOWE his vet warned him and instructed
him HOWE to handle DOMINANCE behaviors like URINATING
IN THE HOWES... they call it DOMINANCE PISSSIN. READ
THE THREADS ON IT RIGHT HERE.

So they got a SCAPE GOAT and rehabilitate themselves.

Parents OTOH take this as a MOORE PERSONAL INSULT
DESPITE that THEY TOO, can fall back or COP HOWET
by sayin they READ IT IN A BOOK by dr dobson the
CHILD ABUSER and COWARD or watched "the dog whisperer"
hurtin and intimidating dogs on National Geographic
TV and was only doin AS THEY BEEN TAUGHT.

Perhaps the DIFFERENCE IS, that PARENTS got CHILDREN
who can READ THESE NEWS GROUPS and would be HIGHLY
EMBARRASSED to have THEM discover that their LOVING
PARENTS had RAISED THEM with FEAR FORCE BRIBERY and
INTIMDIATION.

PARENTS FEAR their children HEARING The Amazing
Puppy Wizard tellin them YOU AIN'T GOT THE RIGHT
to hit or scruff shake a puppy TILL YOU'VE LICKED
HIS ASS FOR A MONTH like a mom dog.

Parents FEAR The Amazing Puppy Wizard when HE tells
THIER CHILDREN that it's ILLEGAL for their parents
to physically punish them and they should CALL THE
COPS and have their stinkin arses thrown in JAIL.

> but I see we have diiferent ideas about dogs

Let's just say a dog and a child are the SAME SAME
to The Amazing Puppy Wizard just like a radio man
is a radio man as a ditchdigger is ditchdigger and
a kat is a kat. IT'S ALL THE SAME SAME and if you
can't ADAPT to THOSE STANDARD perhaps you shoud not
be WORKING and HANDLING LIVING CRITTERS as they are
VERY SENSITIVE as you well know, bein in YOUR SKIN
in front of The Amazing Puppy Wizard and the WHOWEL
WILD WORLD <{); ~ ) >

> and what I want is a simple response,

YOU GOT IT. Don't get NO simpler than THAT.

> not an indoctrination into your ideals.

What do you FEAR? The Amazing Puppy Wizard knows.

You fear your own HUMAN NATURE.

> Bunny


"As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is
no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care."
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@mindspring.com
To: <d...@arcane-computing.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals,
especially animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no
treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine

> > Subject: Re: Discipline
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:43:46 -0500
> > From: Amanda <ama...@dcfwatch.com>
> > To:
> > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 01:54, "N wrote:

> > i responded in katie's mail.. youll get it before this one :)
> > i'm not the expert.. mr. howe is teaching me.. and im
> > figuring alot out.. plus its just coming to me.. two months
> > ago i would cry cuz i was soooo lost... and now i go ahead
> > and live it... like he gave me just enough for my brain to
> > fill in the rest?

> > when i would swat in my early parent years.. up until i got
> > crunchy this last year.. i swore spanking was great.. a lil
> > bit of fear in yo' momma is what i would say.. and my family
> > supported me.. you can spank and not be abusive.

> > then i felt guilty... not because i knew better, but becuase
> > you guys and others did it wihtout spanking.. better than
> > me... but i would still say i just have bad kids.. then i
> > started feeling guilty.. asked for help.. got some advice and
> > it worked some..but not much.. enought to make me think
> > i did it.. then it wouldn't help..

> > then i heard him tell someone on the news group "Do you
> > think hitting babies is intelligent" and i was like whoa..
> > now I feel like cocka and pray every time i distract them
> > that they can somehow grow up not to hate me.. and i pray
> > i caught myself in enough time.

> > > Could you possibly be a little more specific about what
> > > you do? How you implement this? I have spanked, I
> > > look at each time as a failure on my part, either in
> > > communication, or not reading the kids correctly or
> > > in time to head off a meltdown. IT's almost always
> > > been out of frustrtation. It's not something I want to do.
> > > I would really be interested in hearing more about
> > > exactly how this works...

> > > N

> > > --- In Amanda <amanda@d...> > wrote:

> > > > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:47, T wrote:

> > > I was and always have been a spanker. It is all i knew
> > > how.. i never, ever wanted to be.. but i was. my
> > > house/kids were out of control.. i was always stressed.
> > > Since he and his wife came down sunday we've had a
> > > HUGE change... for the first time the kids didn't destroy
> > > my house before i woke up... my 3yo was in my bed coloring
> > > waiting for us to wake up... this is the first time she
> > > ever used paper :)

> > > she usually does walls, furniture.

> > > Anyway.. he told me to use sound/praise.. and it works. I
> > > have a 6 yo, 3.5 yo who is psycho child :) and a very
> > > bad-a$$ 19 month old. They are all smarter than I am and
> > > know it :)

> > > There has not been a temper tantrum in two days in my
> > > house. You guys have no idea how great this is. But best
> > > of all.. this method does NOT use the evil eye or a tone of
> > > that is in any way short of absolute praise.. no shouting..
> > > not even a quiet Chloe!.. nada..

> > > ONLY praise.

> > > They even taught my kids not to take candy unless i say
> > > so.. (my oldest will literally let you pierce her ears for
> > > candy.. it's been done twice and i keep taking em out) and
> > > now the bag of blow pops i forget on the floor in my closet
> > > (where we keep the girl's dressed) is still there and NO
> > > ONE has eaten one!

> > > My 3 yo is even helping me pick up the house.. the baby
> > > took my lingerie chest apart.. and she cleaned it up!
> > > first time! They don't even go out the open door without
> > > my offering it! they helped me sort laundry.. clean the
> > > living room... im amazed. The 3 yo got some yogurt from
> > > the fridge and walked to our kitchen table, sat down and
> > > ate it.. she REFUSES to sit at the table and eat!

> > > We also taught them and the dogs to sit pretty so when
> > > they're climbing on my couch.. i go Can you show me how
> > > you sit pretty??

> > > and they ALL hop down and show me to sit pretty with
> > > their feet NOT on the cofee table.. hands friggin folded..
> > > i almost fell over.. thanks for reminding me to share my
> > > joy!

> > > I'm not a spanker! I don't even yell! lol!

> > > here i picked names that shout well and i don't need em!!!

> > >> how old is your bub amanda? waht's the bub doing?

> > --
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> > Crisis by Thomas Jefferson


"*.@DCFWatch.com" wrote inmessage
> ..
> > > This makes me wonder. If the dog taught himself
> > > to get the kid off of it by biting, why can't
> > > you teach it another method. When my dog nipped
> > > to protect my kids, i taught her with
> > > distraction and praise.

> > What did you teach her to do instead of nipping?

> First we used distraction and praise to teach her
> biting is not ok. 2 weeks ago we had to seperate
> her from the puppy in order to feed them.

> She would run over, bite him then take his food.
> If he licked the carpet where juice was spilled he
> got bitten. just examples. Then during meals, when
> she moved toward him we (me, my husband, jerry
> and his wife) used sound distraction and praise.

> We trained her to stay away from him. Then we
> let them get close, when she looked like she was
> thinking of biting (snap) good girl! good dog... and
> she would let him close. since he advanced to
> eating her food she began laying down and allowing
> him tot ake over. so we taught her to find his food
> and eat his.

> Just doing this has taught her to share. If he's too
> roudy and the kids aren't inviting.. she will find
> her rope and give it to him. if he takes her kong,
> she does and finds his and either gets him
> to take his own king or simply lets him have his.
> we did this by feeding her as much as she wanted,
> giving her plenty of toys. we taught her there is
> always more.. we broke that instinct of self
> preservation. now they share from the same
> bowl. not even a growl.

> then when she growled because my friends kid went
> near her while she was nursing, we put her on lead
> just long enough to come 1 foot from the kid. just
> in case. we put the kid on the floor in her mum's
> lap with the puppy and used distraction and praise
> if she seemed upset. then when she went near the kid
> in a fashion like she was going to protect
> something.. the kids, their food what have you.. we
> used praise and distraction. then it progressed to
> the other day.. the kid was smacking kelly in the
> face. pummeling beyond all belief she has taken
> from my own kids.. like if the 23 lb 19 month old
> goes to stand on her, kelly will brace herself and
> hold still so the baby doesn't fall off. when the
> baby stands on her we distract the baby and praise
> kelly for waiting. so anyway.. she's being smacked
> in the face by the same kid who likes to try and dig
> eyeballs out. kelly snarled her lip.. no sound..
> just showed her teeth... sound and praise! and she
> broke her thought and came over to me. when the
> puppy was biting her so hard she cried (pits
> dont cry easily) we used sound and praise when she
> went to defend herself. then we would go to him and
> distract him off. in less than a week she learned
> to either a. drag him to me or my husband still
> attached and shaking her ear/neck/leg or b. distract
> him herself.

> she sees us use distraction and gentle
> measures and she does them too. when he's trying to
> dig a hole she engages him in play. when the
> kid is going somewhere she shouldn't.. kelly will
> run over to her.. and seperate the kid from say the
> kitchen and guide her in another direction. when
> the puppy is biting something he shouldn't.. she
> finds a kong and offers him the appropriate chewing
> method.

> Dogs are smart. She only knew to nip or growl or
> bite. We taught her gentle ways and she learned
> them. Dogs don't want to bite kids or puppies or
> people.. but they want results. if they know the
> food will never run out.. why should they bite over
> food? if they know someone else will distract a
> biting pup why would she bite him? all she has to
> do is find me and i will do it... why does she need
> to nip the lil kid again? she knows i will stop the
> kid from hurting her. yes it still requires alot of
> supervision, because this kid does in fact hurt her
> alot and she is not part of our pack. but that is
> part of my responsibility as well. Jerry calls it
> allomimetic behaviour.. i think its plain logic. the
> dog won't bite if it knows a whimper or cry
> will attract help. but if no one else is in
> control... as we were not two weeks ago.. the dog
> will take matters into its own hands.

> And for Donna who asked how safe setting up an
> incident is?

> it is very safe. If you know the dog will bite the
> kid if it goes near its food.. you put the dog on
> lead and have someone hold the lead securely. MAKE
> SURE the lead will not reach say.. 1.5 feet away
> from the food dish. then let the kid go near the
> food. the dog couldn't reach if it tried,
> and if it did you are right there to priase
> distract. It is much more difficult in the OP's
> situation since the kid is close enough to bite.
> i'll let jerry elaborate on that. and i wouldn't try
> that without his advice. but if you know
> your dog likes to lunge through the front door at
> the mailman.. put the dog on lead and open the door
> and use praise/distraction.. the dog won't go
> anywhere, but you can set it up to stop the thought.

> it's really a common sense thing.

> i knew i needed to set up a situation and knew i
> couldn't risk a bite.. so i used a freaking leash that
> wasn't long enough to reach the lil kid. voila. by the
> time the dog realized it wanted to do something
> bad.. it forgot it was on lead... and you
> distract/praise and break the behaviour before the
> dog is mid lunge at the end of the leash.

> Amanda
> Whose vicious, aggressive, hopeless pit bull who
> should be watched carefully walked by a barking dog
> who was off lead as it growled at me and heeled
> immediately to "protect" but never used more than 1
> foot of the lead and didn't bark or growl back.

===============================

Discipline - The "NO!" Command - HOWE Dogs And
Children Learn To Tell You "NO!" And HOWE COME
They RUN HOWET On You

> From: Amanda [mailto:ama...@dcfwatch.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Discipline

> On Tuesday 14 January 2003 20:47, T__ wrote:

> funny you bring this up... i met the most wonderful
> couple.. man and wife.. he's a dog trainer.. all his life
> who uses a technique that is ONLY praise and distraction
> with some family pack exercises.

>They spent the day with us sunday helping me on my
> two pits... one is a protective/aggressive 20 month old
> female who is my bubby :) and our 7 week male pup.
> anyway.. not only did i nip any and all aggression issues
> in mere minutes...he and his wife helped me with my kids.

> I was and always have been a spanker.

> It is all i knew how.. i never, ever wanted to be..
> but i was. my house/kids were out of control..
> i was always stressed.

> Since he and his wife came down sunday we've
> had a HUGE change... for the first time the kids
> didn't destroy my house before i woke up... my
> 3yo was in my bed coloring waiting for us to wake
> up... this is the first time she ever used paper
> :) she usually does walls, furniture.

> Anyway.. he told me to use sound/praise.. and it works.

> I have a 6 yo, 3.5 yo who is psycho child :) and a very
> bad-a$$ 19 month old. They are all smarter than I am and
> know it :) There has not been a temper tantrum in two
> days in my house.

> You guys have no idea how great this is.

> But best of all.. this method does NOT use the evil eye
> or a tone of that is in any way short of absolute praise..
> no shouting.. not even a quiet Chloe!.. nada.. ONLY
> praise.

> They even taught my kids not to take candy unless
> i say so.. (my oldest will literally let you pierce her
> ears for candy..

> it's been done twice and i keep taking em out) and
> now the bag of blow pops i forget on the floor in my
> closet (where we keep the girl's dressed) is still there
> and NO ONE has eaten one! My 3 yo is even helping
> me pick up the house.. the baby took my lingerie chest
> apart.. and she cleaned it up! first time!

> They don't even go out the open door without my
> offering it! they helped me sort laundry.. clean the
> living room... im amazed. The 3 yo got some yogurt
> from the fridge andwalked to our kitchen table, sat
> down and ate it.. she REFUSES to sit at the table
> and eat!

> We also taught them and the dogs to sit pretty so
> when they're climbing on my couch.. i go Can you
> show me how you sit pretty?? and they ALL hop
> down and show me to sit pretty with their feet NOT
> on the cofee table.. hands friggin folded.. i almost
> fell over..

> thanks for reminding me to share my joy!

> I'm not a spanker! I don't even yell! lol!

> here i picked names that shout well and i don't need em!!!

> > how old is your bub amanda? waht's the bub doing?/
/,
> > Hello again ladies,
> > Amanda, I love your signature. I also do not spank my
> > daughter, however, she is at an age where she really is
> > asserting her independence.

> > Can anyone help with ideas of what I can do? Blessings,
> > T.

Subject: Re Discipline. Also, SLEEP!
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:38:46 -0500
From: Amanda <ama...@dcfwatch.com>

> Can you go into this a little more? How did they
> accomplish all this in one day?

My learning is progressive. I email or call him with
questions. But, i'm getting most of it myself. Something
clicked.

How would we do it with our families?

that is kind of broad.. ask me specifics... or i'd still be
typing when your kids are in college ;)

> I really have problems controlling my temper when I am
> already stressed out and then C__ is hurting me:

Me too.. i was abused... my mom was psycho... and i had
problems with anger.. i took it personally when my 6 yr old
wouldn't clean her room... i would sometimes cry is was so
strung out.. i didn't wanna spank but i didn't know what to do
instead.. so i spanked.. and then spanking didn't work.. and
then my dogs went nuts and i called this trainer and he showed
me how to do it.

pulling my hair, scratching me, slapping me, etc.

Mine hit me on purpose alot.. scratching.. climbing on me..
hurting me and then laughing.

Now as I post.. please don't think im trying to be a know it
all.. i simply wanna relay what i have learned... as it is
i've only been spank free for a week now and yell free for two
days (my neighbors two streets over are happy :)

Children, dogs, people.. they do thinks wrong because it
ellicits your ultimate attention. Does your 3 year old enjoy
fingerpainting on walls? no... do they enjoy fighting the minute
you pick up the phone?? No.

They *know* they can command your attention.. and that's
what they
want. same reason your dogs fight.. they think it is
controlling you.

Your kids want you watching their every move.. making sure
they eat.. dont talk to strangers.. because it means you are
watching THEM and not them watching you as it should be. they
should stay within x feet of you.. because they like mom and
she's cool and she keeps em safe... they shouldn't run and
expect you to chase them.. because you won't always be there
to chase them... that's how kids die or get lost.

When they learn to follow you.. it's all good.

Now, take my 19 mo old. She had this habit of sipping 4 oz
from her bottle and demanding more. if i didn't refill it..
she threw a hgue fit. Now she hands me her bottle and says
more.. and i tickle her... then i pick up her bottle and
pretend im drinking it.. i offer her a drink and snatch it
back saying MY Baba!! She wants that bottle.. so she takes it
and drinks it.. even tho i didn't refill it. we had a huge
problem with them taking things they cant have and when i
wanted it they ran... now i give the baby (19mo) my finger..
and she grabs it.. and i wiggle and shout My finger! that's
mine! Gimme it back.. playfully.. and she resists.. and i go
"Ooh.. can i have it please?" and she gives it to me and i
gleefully say Thank you! and she says you're welcome.. and i
give her the finger back... then i hand her say a lighter...
and we wrestle for a minute.. and i say... can i have that???
and she gives it over etc. Of course sometimes she'll have a
cool! book! and ill ask can i have that.. and shell say No.
and i say that's ok! and tickle her or snap my fingers and
say good girl naya.. good job.. then ill start my game again
and wrestle and try to take it gently... then.. can i have
that??? she gives it over. this works with everything now.

> Or when he's ripping up my homework or something like
> that.

Yea... with the dog training you hide nothing.. no forced
control. you set the dog up for fail.. so you can distract
and praise and erase the thought.. same with the kids. Put
some unimportant paper all over.. when he goes to touch it..
make a sound and distract him.. then good boy, that's a nice
baby!... then repeat.. the minute he goes for the paper and
breaks the thgouth you throw him in the air and praise like
mad!

> How would I apply this in those situations? Also, what do
> you do in 'danger' situations (until you're close enough
> to distract them) - climbing on things, sticking metal
> objects into electrical outlets, trying to get into the
> oven, etc.?

Use your judgement.. if you have the distance/time to
distract... do it.. if you don't... pick them up and away..
but act like it's to throw em in the air.. so they don't know
youre forcing control by phsycially removing them... cuz when
you force control.. with the come command when you want your
dog away from something... or when you pull a dirty shoe from
your baby's mouth.. you put value on it.

Like when your kid puts a penny in its mouth.. youll try to
pry its mouth open to get it... and he'll clamp right down..
you gave that penny VALUE! it's not just a piece of crap..
mom WANTS IT!

so.. instead you make a game.. say you want em to smit it
out... walk somewhere else... attract their attention.. be
kinda sneaky... odds are the thing in their mought will get
annoying and they'll spit it out when they walk toward you...
if all else fails.. pry it outta their smiling jaws... snatch
em up away from falling down... but only when you have to..
then work realy hard to overcome that forced control.

Also don't make a big deal about it.. or else theyll learn not
only to command your attention, but also mom will always catch
me so she is watching me.. not me watching her.

> I never realized how spirited C__ was until I started
> tending other kids.

those are my kids. I have had social workers with their
degrees in child development stop offering me services cuz
they couldn't handle my kids... my friends call mine the
obstinate kids.

> They're docile kittens compared to C__! This brings up
> another question - what do you do when YOUR child is the
> bully?

if you catch it before it happens.. loud sound.. big
distraction and PRAISE. if you catch it afterward... distract
and say oh my goodness! and pay attention to the other kid...
he wont get the attention... then explain how that hurts.
odds are your kid won't hurt another kid if he truly
understands its not nice.

> C__ is always beating the other boy over the head when he
> comes over.
> We don't hit in anger in our family

i have.. everyone does in my family... i did it a few times
over 4 years... but that is because i didn't know how not to.
i know now.. and i wanna tell everyone i can.. so someone else
doesn't spank their kids due to a lack of knowledge.

> (we do it playfully sometimes, so we are curtailing that
> in case it is giving him ideas)

my kids, 6yo, 3yo and 19 month old, favorite game is chasing
around the house (all 4 of us) with wooden spools yelling at
the top of our lungs "I'm gonna beat your a$$.. HA HA HA... no
IM gonna beat YOUR a$$ MU HA HA HA" my neighbors prolly
think im nuts.. but the kids love it dog even plays too

> but I admit that after I have been trying to get him to go
> to sleep for 45 minutes, I get a little rough sometimes.
> It's really frustrating. He'll be dead tired - eyes
> bright red, fussy, eyes almost closing every 5 seconds.

It gets worse... they all do it around that time.. they don't
want to sleep.. andyou know what? they don't grow out of it
until they're parents :) it's one of those times you have to
use your patience and keep distracting and praising.

> So I'll take him into the bedroom, and lay down to nurse
> him. He'll nurse for about 5 seconds and then jump up and
> run to the window and start bending the blinds.

he wants you upset.. he wants your undivided attention. you
have to refuse it.. no evil eye.. no "conner" quiet or not..
no anger.. complete nonchalance.. they have to have a total
complete entire lack fo negative attention.. and all they'll
be able to do is sit back and enjoy the positive!

One shout.. one name call.. one No! and it takes awhile to
work up to the positive only.

> So I gently pick him up and lay him back down.

try not to.. but if you have to ok

> And we repeat the process over 10000 times.

when he goes to sit up.. when yous see the thought on his
face.. distract with sound and follow with praise or a song or
giggle.

> Then I get frustrated and lay him down less gently.

better than my method of plop em in the crib and let em cry.
No anger.. stay calm.. meditate, pray.. breath.. try to
remember they will not always be this small.. and youll never,
ever for anything get it back. it's what im using

> That makes him cry, which is the last straw that
> FINALLY gets him to nurse to sleep.

He got you riled up.. what he wanted.. time to sleep.

> Writing it out, I thought of something. He must have a
> lot of excess tension he needs to release before sleeping,
> and finally crying releases it for him.

no way... crying isn't a release.. sometimes.. maybe for
some people.. crying is frustration, pain, hunger,
sadness... sometimes joy.. sometimes tension.. but not
because of his life.. because he's insecure... their dealing
with negative and positive.. and thats what makes em
insecure.

> Any good ways to do this that don't involve crying?

distraction and praise.. if all else fails get up and dance..
fast for day.. slow rocking at night.

> Turning on soft music and swaying in the sling used to
> work for us, but now he either grabs at everything he can
> reach or bends over backwards until he's hanging upside
> down.

cuzhe knows what you're doing. hold him instead.. or sit him
in your lap on the bed and rock

> Putting the sling over his shoulders to prevent that
> doesn't work either. He acts like he is being tortured
> and screams and fights to get out.

becuase it is forced control.

> Katie

Amanda

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To: <pdd-aspy...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM
Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment?

How does diagnosis shape treatment?

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"ziggy" <y...@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Howe" <jho...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > HOWEDY People,

> Well, thanks for taking the time to reply as you
> kindly did. Yeah, ok, I think I got to hand it to you
> lol So it's back to the manual for a while and I'll
> let you know how we get on! I'm still eating my
> humble pie so excuse crumbs ~;0)

> I really didn't think the rewarding bad behaviour
> had a chance in hell but you have proved me wrong......

> He was blanking me like crazy the
> other day, I lost my rag (Got the flu so on a short
> leash myself lol) Gave it a 'Good boy, yeah you
> really are!' and he did what I'd been asking him to
> do for 5 mins straight away lol Doh!! Tickles me now
> when he's up to no good and I say Good Boy, he turns
> straight back to my sweety and he doesn't even know
> it! It's applied physchology all the way with Dobies
> in particular and I know it's often better to turn a
> blind eye rather than confront at that particular
> time, I've always distracted rather than corrected
> at this young age but I'm going your way!!

> Thanks all
> ziggy
> This humble pie tastes nice actually ~;0)
> ziggy

INTRO TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING MANUAL
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D. F.R.S.H.

Several years ago one of my old students telephoned
to me and asked me what I knew about Doggie Do
Right, a device to cause your neighbor's dog to stop
barking.

I had not heard of the device, nor its inventor, Jerry
Howe, but I telephoned, read his website, and told
my graduate that I thought the device was worth a
trial - indeed I shut up the dogs in my neighborhood
by turning on Jerry's supersonic device.

After all we all know that dogs respond to whistles
humans cannot hear, so why not respond to "attaboy"
sounds which humans cannot hear.

My student lived far from my Florida homestead, so
he tried it on the three incredibly savage, hyperactive
and noisy dogs who lived behind a tall fence just 3 feet
back of his bedroom.

Hot rats! The device worked,

Andy got his sleep and I didn't think much of the
matter again.

A few months ago I had new neighbors on each
side of my house, four of them, all with noisy
unshuttupable dogs. Argh!

So I foned Andrew in Virgina, received the intelligence
that his neighbors dogs were still quiet, and then I foned
Jerry Howe, the inventor of Doggie Do Right, who came
to visit me.

Merlin walked into my office.

Jerry is a slender fellow with a belly button lenghth grey
beard tapering down his chest. I liked him immediately,
and I applied his instrument to the neighborhood again
which again became silent.

It occured to me that if this ultrasonic field worked with
dogs that we ought at least to ask the question, what
happens to humans in range of the device???

I asked Jerry to give me a list of customers and began
inquiring among them. One thing became immediately
evident. The Doggie Do Right not only shuts up your
neighbors' dogs, it calms and modifies your husband's behavior.

Holey Moley, Captain Marvel, this device has major potential.

In the meantime Jerry gave me a copy of his Wits End
Dog Training Manual. I was delighted. He also introduced
me to the world of professional dog trainers some of whom
even have Ph.D.s in psychology.

This was not such a delight as it appeared that none
of these luminaries had actually read Skinner, Lazarus
or other fountains of wisdom in psychology. Indeed, it
seemed as though they knew very little about the laws
of behavior at all!

Punishment and confrontation seemed to be their
major stock in trade.

Well, if you go to my website, www.drbiofeedback.com
you can read of the career of Sam Corson, I.P. Pavlov's
last student.

Sam demonstrated that rehabilitation of hyperactive
dogs can easily and readily be done using TLC, tender
loving care is at the root of the scientific management
of doggies.

Pavlov told us so 100 years ago.

So what are these degreed morons doing punishing
dogs, and shouting "NO" into their doggie faces? If
you pick up B.F.Skinner's last book, CUMULATIVE
RECORD, included in it is an essay by Keller Breland
and Maryann Breland entitled THE MISBEHAVIOR OF ORGANISMS.

Skinner deliberately included his students' chapter
to emphasize that you cannot manage the behavior
of animals unless you take into consideration 1. the
animal's evolutionary niche (who is the animal?);
2. the animal's personal history (who is the animal?)
and 3, the instinctive repetoire of the animal (who is
the animal?) and 4. the personality of the animal (who
is the animal?).

The Brelands moved far from the white rat. "Thirty-eight
species, totaling over 6,000 individual animals, have been
conditioned, and we have dared to tackle such unlikely
subjects as reindeer, cockatoos, raccoons, porpoises,
and whales. "

Jerry Howe spends most of his times with dogs, but
he has learned Pavlov's lesson well. Dogs are individuals,
they are individual DOGS, and they respond most directly
and immediately to love and tender loving care.

Read with pleasure, and then go love your dog.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
Who's Who Honoree since 1983

Thank you, Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092

The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?

,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW; ~ } >
oo-oo


John's Jukes
2005-07-28 12:11:08 EST
Y*a@HushMail.Com wrote in news:1122535476.072529.33830
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

and SUCCEEDED approximately 90%
> of the time even taking into CONsideration those of us who
> was marginally physically or mentall fit
>

You included yourself, I understand now.
These are your own words above, not mine.


> Thank you, Jerry Howe,
> Director of Research,
> BIOSOUND Scientific

No, no... thank you for clearing this up once and for HOWEL ..

Bweahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


JJ

Y*@HushMail.Com
2005-07-28 12:42:06 EST
HOWEDY DaveR,

DaveR wrote:
> On 26 Jul 2005 11:24:09 -0700, YourWorstFreakinNightmare@InBox.Com
> wrote:
>
> >INDEEDY tommy. Your methods have driven DaveR's
> >dog INSANE in JUST WON WEEK. At least ACCORDIN
> >TO DaveR's POSTED CASE HISTORY, tommy <{); ~ ) >
>
> Well I don't necessarily agree with this characterization.

We can DISAGREE but the SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION of the
behavoiral SYMPTOMS your dog has been EXXXHIBITIING
ARE INDEED, MENTAL HEELTH ISSUES which in HUMAN BEINGS
often REQURES strong ANTI PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS, IN
HOWES PSYCHIATRIATRIC TREATMENT including ECT (Electro
Shock Therapy) and COGNITIVE THERAPY and BEHAVIOR
MODIFICATION and has MINIMAL SUCCESS in rehabilitation.

Additionally the PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS of this kind of
EXXXTREME STRESS causes a myriad of STRESS INDUCED
AUTO IMMUNE DIS-EASES as EVIDENCED RIGHT HERE by
the EXXXPERTS DEATHLY ILL DOGS.

> INSANE is a bit much.

We can COMPROMISE with MALBEHAVED... that way the
DOG can ACCEPT some of the BLAME, eh?

This AIN'T ABHOWET BLAME, DavidR. WE ONLY DO AS
WE WERE TAUGHT, and that AIN'T YOUR FAULT and The
Amazing Puppy Wizard DON'T CARE WHO'S FAULT it IS
so long as the CYCLE of INSANITY is EXXXTINGUISHED
in HIS LIFETIME <{); ~ ) >

And you and your own dog's CASE HISTORY DATA are
the STEPPING STONES The Amazing Puppy Wizard uses
to SLAY these Phillistines talkin through the jaw
bone of an ass <{); ~ ) >

> Sure, she has some behavioral issues that I am
> working to resolve.

INDEEDY. It's TAKEN you quite some effort to
BREAK OLD HABITS and start followin the METHOD
PRECISELY. You'll do FINE, DaveR. The Amazing
Puppy Wizard had confidence in you from your
1st reply to HIM, as DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASES
DO NOT DISCUSS BUSINESS with The Amazing Puppy
Wizard, ESPECIALLY PROFESSIONAL TRAINERS like
diddler who's CAREER and REPUTATION DEPEND on
YOUR FAILURE using The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

> But overall, she is really not INSANE.

PERHAPS The Amazing Puppy Wizard was usin the
CLINICAL definitin of OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE
DISORDER, DaveR <{); ~ ) >

NO PROBLEM, words shouldn't CONfHOWEND so
long as we get the GIST, eh? You been followin
Lucy's posts? PRETTY GOOD STUFF, ain't it.

NHOWE YOU KNOW HOWE COME these MENTAL CASES
WARNED YOU NOT TO BELIEVE The Amazing Puppy
Wizard <{); ~ ) >

> >"He was doing great for a week, no accidents at all."
> >
> >But THAT was PRYOR to the pup GETTIN CRATE TRAINED,
> >as YOU TOLD HIM TO DO, tommy. REMEMBER?
>
> To be clear, she was in a crate since day one.

RIGHT... and you got your JUST DESSERTS. IT MADE HER
MENTALLY (less than INSANE?) and PHYSICALLY ILL <{); ~ ) >

> She instinctively went into her kennel,

Right. THAT'S FEAR BEHAVIOR <{); ~ ) >

Your dog should ALWAYS want to be bye your side.
See The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Posts to bunny...
same same same same SITUATON <{): ~ ( >

You'll RECOGNIZE IT.

> no doubt because she was fearful of her new surroundings.

It's IRRELEVENT. ALL behaviors are RELATED and CHANGE
to others as they're REPRESSED. THAT'S HOWE COME it
takes these MENTAL CASES 2-5 years to "train" their
dogs by playin "Whack-A-Mole" with behavior PROBLEMS
chokin and shocking EVERY BAD BEHAVOR in creation till
their dogs are ACCEPTABLE or DEAD, JUST LIKE HOWE you
SEE RIGHT HERE in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives.

> At night, after her final trip outside to eliminate,
> she goes right into the crate.

RIGHT. You've GOT to STOP LETTIN HER HIDE, it
INTENSIFIES and REINFORCE PHOBIAS and CAUSES
a host of behaviors The Amazing Puppy Wizard
AIN'T GOT TIME to list AGAIN. It's ALL IN The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives <{); ~ ) >

> It really seems as if she WANTS to sleep there.

Like a child HIDING UNDER THE BLANKET from the BOOGEYMAN.

> >DaveR SEZ he STARTED HOWET with a GOOD DOG and after
> >JUST WON WEEK of LOCKING IT in a box and SCHEDULING
> >IT, his NEW PUPPY has begun DESTROYING the HOWES
> >and SHITTIN all over DaveR's WHOWEL WILD WORLD, tommy.
> >THANKS TO YOUR OWN INSTRUCTIONS, tommy.
>
> Let's not lose sight of the fact that when we got
> the dog she was 10 days out of surgery (spay),

You mean she was FIT FOR DUTY, DaveR.

> had been taken off the streets where she enjoyed
> full freedom (no doubt with some horrors as well),

Lots of times RESCUE / SHELTER dogs are KIDNAPPED
by rescut / shelter hags who SHOCK and CHOKE them
till they can't do it no MOORE and turn thim in
for "adoption". THAT TOO is IN THE ARCHIVES.

> put into a box and sent on a 3 hour plane trip,

QUESTION: Was the travel necessitated by your
distance from the shelter or did you pick him
up and move with him? These shelter / rescue
SCAM ARTISTS have their own TRAINsportation
department which profits by shuttling dogs
here and there INSTEAD of TRAINING and
REHBILITATING them in their original HOWESES.

They MAKE MONEY COMIN an GOIN HAND OVER FIST
and call it DONATIONS or "ADOPTION FEES" and
EVERY WON GREASES THE VET for unnecessary
inapupriate surgical sexual mutilatin which
CAUSES FEAR BEHAVIORS <{); ~ ) >

> finally making her way to my parent's apartment for
> one day, then being taken in the same box to her
> final home here. No doubt this amount of trauma takes
> plenty of time to recover from.

You mean from bein in a box like she is at her own HOWES?

NOT A PROBLEM EITHER WAY.

There's NO GREY AREA between RIGHT and WRONG, DaveR.

IT'S CLEAR when you WIPE HOWET the BLAME part of it...

> The first week she was docile because she
> was sleeping much of the time,

Dogs sleep ALOT.

> recovering physically and emotionally from her ordeal.

HOWER EXXXPERTS SHOWE and FIELD and AGILITY TRIAL
their dogs ten days after surgical sexual mutilations.

> I am actually glad that she is now behaving more like a
> puppy, even with occasional bouts of behavioral issues.

Well if you STUDY and FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS you
AIN'T GONNA HAVE noMOORE "behaviorial issues". Takin
HOWET the BLAME will likeWIZE make THAT, PERFECTLY CLEAR.

Dog trainin AIN'T LUCK, DaveR.

> >"But once we leave her alone, she ignores her chew
> > toys and goes after anything else she can grab."
>
> Using distraction techniques we have managed
> to stop most of this behavior.

AS STATED. OF CURSE.

> She still goes for the shoes once in awhile,

NO PROBLEMO. Leave a couple pairs of shoes
in likely spots where you'd ordinarily LIKE
to park them and do your work.

> but if we're around she pauses long enough for us
> to correct the behavior (with praise for the pause,

EXXXCELLENT.

> of course).

Of curses, for diddler and his PALS who'd BEGRUDGE
YOU and yoru dog of HAPPINESS on accHOWENT of it
MAKES HER LOOK LIKE A DOG ABUSER. Deposite all
the BLAME THERE, DaveR. THAT'S the guilty party
NOT The Amazing Puppy Wizard for TAKIN A FIRM
HAND and MAKIN YOU BEHAVE NICE <{); ~ ) >

> I think we're making progress.

INDEED. HOWER DOG LOVERS WILL KILLFILE YOU
and call you a LIAR and your posts FORGERIES.

> I know it takes time.

NOT IF YOU STUDY and FOLLOW the INSTRUCTIONS PRECISELY.

NHOWE go move that crate to the attic till you
need it for a another airline trip <{); ~ ) >


Local: Sun,Oct 10 2004 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: Hey PW

HOWEDY CardioActive,

"CardioActive" <car...@ctive.com> wrote in message
news:dfkad.14913$gs1.5921@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

> I remember you from almost a year ago.

INDEEDY. The Amazing Puppy Wizard hopes
it was as good for you as it was for HIM.

> My dog Stefi (a rescued animal) bit another
> dog in a spat at that time and we were banished
> from the leash-free dog park (by frowns).

INDEEDY. That was a minor problem.

> I requested help from a similar newsgroup
> and you made some suggestions.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard told you you was
askin liars dog abusers cowards and active
long term incurable mental cases for advice
for the same problems they got and can't train.

> I downloaded your manual and found it very
> helpful (even though I haven't finished it yet:)

Ahhh, you're missin the BEST parts.

> Some of your advice stuck with me and makes a lot of sense -

EVERY thing The Amazing Puppy Wizard sez
makes sense to the dog. THAT'S HOWE COME
they NEVER FAIL us when we FOLLOW THE METHOD.

> - 'you're raising companions not pigs', as
> well as suggestions that I praise them even
> when they do wrong things (seemed counter-
> intuitive at the time).

INDEEDY. Every thing HOWER DOG LOVERS
think they know is CONtraWIZE to effective trainin.

> I've tried practicing those things and my both
> my dogs really adore me now. They respect
> my opinion.

INDEEDY. That's what it's all abHOWET:

Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That
Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built
On Trust And Understanding."

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relationship with
your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul.

========================

> I've been sneaking into the dog park at early
> hours (6:00 am) for doggy exercise and to
> avoid conflicts with others.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard recommends you
study Part 2 of your FREE copy of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual and do the exercises
and apply them to dogs you can approach at
the park and EXXXTINGUISH this problem EZ
PERMENANTELY GENTLY and NEARLY INSANTLY.

> Occasionally we encounter other early morning
> dogs and Stefi has become uncharacteristically
> mild-mannered.

Good. It's time to start doin the real work in
part 2 and work her around lots of dogs till
she's comfortable all the time.

> Today, a small dog came up to her and sniffed
> her face -- a bombshell previously. No problem
> now. I praised her for being good which she
> continued to do.

Good.

> She's happy, I'm happy.

That's just HOWE it is when we
stop OPPOSING or BRIBING
HOWER dogs and give them
some confidence and trust.

> Anyway, just a short note of thanks

No, THANK YOU. The Amazing Puppy Wizard
couldn't do it withHOWET your heelp.

> and best wishes.

LikeWIZE.

> Regards

Be SHORE to do that heeling pattern exercise
and work the method PRECISELY as instructed
and your dog will be playin in the park with the
other dogs in a couple of days. Maybe faster.

> P.S. I recall you also are from FL. Hope you
> successfully ducked all the hurricanes this year.

INDEEDY. We got through withHOWET a scratch.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard got PROTECTION.

HOWEDY tara o. aka tee,

"Tee" <crappolagozh...@netscape.net> wrote in message

<news:c2ddq5$1rhump$1@ID-92443.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> "CardioActive" <cardioact...@substance.net> wrote in message
> news:moq2c.25051$aT1.22778@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

> > Thanks Puppy Wizard, I'll check it out. I for one don't want
to
> > give up on a good friend even if they have "issues".

> > -CardioActive

HOWEDY Angelo Lauetta,

"Angelo Lauetta" <angel...@verizon.net> wrote in message

<news:Ud92c.15383$YN5.363@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>...

> got the free instructions, been using them this past week
> with total sucess...

INDEEDY. The Amazing Puppy Wizard GUARANTEES
100% TOTAL NON PHYSICAL CONTROL NEARLY
INSTANTLY or HE'LL get the heel HOWETA this business.

> the file i dl'd is 87 pages long....got any more, im hooked...

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual is PRECISE. You won't be needing
any "advanced" methods cause the basics are applicable to
all aspects of all training needs and behavior problems and
the scientific and psychological techniques work equally well
on children, spHOWESES employees and employers.

> 8 month old lab is loving it too....

Of CURSE!

> Power to the People brother......

INDEED.

Too bad HOWER DOG LOVERS would PREFER to
jerk and choke their dogs on pronged spiked pinch choke
collars and shock and beat them with sticks and spray
aversives in their eyes and advise folks like you to do
likeWIZE so they don't look like ESCAPED MENTAL
PATIENTS DOG ABUSERS LIARS and SADISTS.

> and thanks for saving me the $ on obedience training.....

Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME HOWER professional
DOG LOVERS like lying frosty dahl, captain arthur haggerty,
jo wolf, janet boss, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and her
close personal pal Master Of Deception blankman and
professor SCRUFF SHAKE HOWER university trained
behaviorist don't LIKE The Amazing Puppy Wizard
IDENTIFYING EXXXPOSING and DISCREDITING them
and their barbaric descartean methods?

> more people just need to open their minds and at least
> take a look at a different point of view.....

Yeah. But that would mean the professional liars dog
abusers university behaviorISTS and active long term
incurable MENTAL PATIENTS would have to get the
heel HOWETA this business.

> so once again thanx and woof from Penny....

The Puppy Wizard reveres a dedicated student.

HOWEDY CardioActive,

"CardioActive" <cardioact...@substance.net> wrote in message

<news:Rab2c.21080$yZ1.314@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> Here's a tale for you.

Forget abHOWET it. The Amazing Puppy Wizard got a tail for you.

> I have two dogs

The Amazing Puppy Wizard grew up in a Great Dane kennel
and has forty sumpthin years experience specializing in
temperament
and behavior problems and protection trainin in mostly giant
breed working dogs.

> I adopted from a rescue agency -

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is holding "RESCUE" organizations
responsible for mishandling and abusing dogs and disavailng
them of their rightful HOWESES by not being able to give their
families the INFORMATION they need.

> Keena and Stefi. Both are females who were both about 4-5
> years old when I met them. Keena is never a problem.

All behavior problems are caused by mishandling.

> I took her to dog training classes

Traditional training based on fear force intimidation
avoidance bribery and withholding bribes to elicit
mindless unthinking behaviors to get a treat cause
anxiHOWESNESS GREED and MISTRUST and
reduce the dog's esteem for his handler's authority.

> and applied the same techniques to Stefi when I got her.

Could be THAT'S HOWE COME you got behaivor problems.

> Stefi is about 45 pounds and when you look closely at her
> ears you'll see lots of scar tissue from old dog fights.

Lots of us got scars from old fights.

> After I adopted her, I found out about her past.

Her past is history.

> She had been kept in a kennel at a no-kill animal shelter
> for almost two years because she was "too aggressive".

Oh? Just like Valerie's dog Spot.

> No one would adopt her.

Oh? Just like most of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's dogs.

> Today, a lot of people who know her laugh because she
> is so ridiculously affectionate with strangers (including kids).

EXXXCELLENT! Good for you. SHOWENDS like your
traning wasn't as ineffective and inapupriate as most.

> However other dogs are another story.

Ooops! NO PROBLEM. All we gotta do is teach you
HOWE to control your dogs withHOWET fear force
intimidation avoidance and to teach them to trust you
and have confidence they won't be afraid of other dogs
noMOORE.

> In my town there are a lot of leash free dog parks and
> my dogs love to visit. We go almost everyday.

Good for you.

> I've been working hard trying to better socialize Stefi
> and we've made lots of progress.

SHOWENDS like you've done well, up till the dog part.

> I've noticed that when Stefi finds herself in a crowd of people
> and dogs all bunched together she gets very nervous.

Well, The Amazing Puppy Wizard will teach you HOWE
to change her state of mind NEARLY INSTANTLY using
the effective non physical scientific and psychological
conditioning techniques taught in your FREE copy of
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual.

> Her smiling face will suddenly disappear,

That's when you'll just follow the INSTRUCTIONS and
yoru dog will return to being a happy puppy.

> her eyes turn coal black, she snarls and the aggressively
> lashes out at a nearby dog (especially smaller ones).

We'll EXXXTINGUISH her REFLEXIVE FEAR RESPONSE
NEARLY INSTANTLY if you do all the exercises in your FREE
copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual.

> If I see it, I intercept and stop it by shouting "be nice" to

her.

You mean, you threaten and intmidate her.

> It seems to work.

INDEEDY. But only for the moment, then the fear returns
with a vengence cause NHOWE the dog is afraid of you
and angry at the other dog for gettin her in trHOWEBLE
and she's EMBARRASSED in front of the other dog and
THAT'S what causes sibling rivalry.

> But I can't take my eye off of her for even a second.

Cause you're forcing control, not trainin.

> I've also noticed after she lashes out at a dog, she never
> does it again to that dog.

Oh. Well, all you gotta do is intimidate her in front of
every do in creation and your problem is SOLVED.

> Today, after a year and a half of trying to socialize her,
> she bit another dog in the face so badly, the owner had
> to take his dog to an emergency vet clinic. It was a bloody

mess.

Well, you're in EXXXCELLENT COMPANY here abHOWETS
CardioActive. We got liars and dog abusers and active long
term incurable mental cases who've got the same problem
who will advise you to do the same same as they have to
get the same same same same problems and MOORE.

> Fortunately, the dog wasn't seriously injured but I got to
> pay a $60 vet bill for the owner.

You got LUCKY.

> The victim dog was a small breed (Italian greyhound?)

There shouldn't be no VICTIMS.

> Stefi has previously caught and killed a rat and baby
> opossum in my backyard

Yeah. That's a little MOORE difficult to break but it can be done.

> and some small breeds are not much larger.

But they're not a wild critter trespassin in your HOWES.

> I'm now very hesitant about taking her back to the park.

Of curse.

> And what about my other dog who was not involved.

We'll still train him the same same so everyWON will
be pupperly handled and trained.

> Do I leave Stefi at home and take Keena?

You won't be havin this problem for MOORE than a
couple days if you study your FREE copy of The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual.

> Any ideas for training regimens?

Yeah. But you're probably not gonna want to study
your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
on accHOWENT of it's difficult for The Amazing
Puppy Wizard to believe that you never read HOWER
forum pryor to posting your question.

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS
casue HOWER regular posters are LIARS DOG ABUSERS
COWARDS and active long term incurable mental patients
who HURT and KILL dogs like you got.

> Remember this is a leash free area that's quite large.

REMEMBER, YOU'RE ASKIN DOG ABUSERS COWARDS
and MENTAL PATIENTS for advice for the SAME SAME
SAME SAME PROBLEMS THEY CAUSED THEIR OWN
goddamend sickly, fear aggressive DOGS.

> Any help with my problem is greatly appreciated.

You won't be gettin no HEELP from HOWER DOG ABUSERS
LIARS COWARDS and ACTIVE INCURABLE LONG TERM
MENTAL PATIENTS:

Val writes Monday, 6/3/02:

Well, for what it's worth, I am praising without
physical contact and she does seem to listen
better than when I would praise with it. I agree
that it is a distraction.

Anyway, no more aggressive behaviors from
her since I started the Witts End.

"MaryBeth" <marbe...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message

news:3cfcdcfb$2_8@news.teranews.com...

> "MaryBeth" <marbe...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message

> > Didja also see that he has 'morphed' into Valerie M.
> > Holmes ?????

> Note: I am not saying there isn't a VALID Valerie M. Holmes,
> but this one lives in howdy's home.

> MB <G>

From: Seeing Spots \(Val\) (Holme...@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: Re: Dear Wits End
Date: 2002-06-04 18:19:07 PST

HEY!!!

There is a Valid Valerie with a REAL Dalmatian who is a real
sweet dog with a few issues that I am working to resolve after
adopting her from a shelter she spent 2 years in. All I want
is to get some decent help for my dog.

There is some decent stuff in Jerry's manual. My dog has
ACTUALLY been responding to her training. The deal is you
have to seperate your opinions and impressions from the guy
who is writing these posts and take from the manual what you
want.

Personally, I get a pretty good chuckle out of the whole Jerry
thing. I have to say the guy is pretty clever, you're letting
him get under your skin. It makes for a very amusing game I
think. I'm sure he would agree, or he wouldn't be playing
everyday. He also wouldn't be playing if he didn't believe
that his method of training weren't valid.

Perhaps I'll learn from my mistakes, but so far, using the
Witts End, I have gotten my dalmatian to listen to me, to look
to me for direction, to wait for me to say when. I have
changed her from an aggressive dog to one who is willing to
please her owner, willing to listen, willing to assume her
role in the pack.

The real Valerie M. Holmes speaking

P.s. Jerry, don't get any ideas about morphing into me, ok?

--------------------------

MaryBeth, QUEEN OF THE RPD* MENTALLY
ILL ALLSTARS MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD*

Mental illness is a public issue in these newsgroups.
People are always running around calling other people
mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses. I think it's
only fair that we have an accurate list of who is and who
isn't mentally ill, so that we can avoid any misunderstandings
and promote group harmony.

MaryBeth
MVP (most valuable psycho)

Has contributed greatly to the annual profit
results at several large pharmaceutical corps
has taken virtually every mentally ill (crazy)
drug treatment in the book, and then some:
prozac, zoloft, amitryptiline, Buspar, Xanax,
effexor, paxil, HRT, wellbutrin, tranquilizers,
clomid, has suffered from or been:

suicidal, agoraphobic, tidal waves of PMS,
mood swings, turned into a hermit, bloated,
just real angry, hubby afraid of her, high
blood pressure, divorced, "raving bitch"
"zoloft zombie" for four years, "living
through layers and layers of gauze," chain
smoker, buzzing, weight gain, fatigue,
terrible dry mouth, dull headaches, fuzzy
brain, lack of concentration..etc.
severe depression, severe insomnia, Panic
ALL the time, crying, not sleeping, you name
it...etc...

MaryBeth (on being seriously f'd in the head
aka mentally ill) aka cuckoo! kuckoo! ding! ding! ding!
aka a superpsychotic bitch from hell

"I know for a fact I went thru years of
being overly sensitive, being a b*tch,
being self centered, being self pitying,
you name it, I was a wreck and I ran over
everyone in my path."

"<G> I do know the power of meds, especially
on a long term basis, and it's not pretty.
You become another person, if it's not the
correct med for you.

--All the best,
MaryBeth

"Yup Diane, I am taking Zoloft, and my
Rheumatologist told me that taking
Ultram with it can cause seizures."

"I have all the symptoms.I am suicidal at
times (cyclical) have severe insomnia,
'crawly' skin etc. I have an appt to see
my doc next Friday to test for menopause."

--MaryBeth

"I noticed that antidepressants cut libido
into the dead zone and I had no real
emotions, like not laughing at funny stuff,
couldn't cry either.....except about my
suicidal
thoughts (but at the time I thought there was
no
other way out)."

--MaryBeth

"Hi, new to group, just starting Clomid
today.
I talked with RE and pharmacist re: zoloft
(50
mg daily) and ineraction with Clomid. They
reported none. Not sure about the prozac tho.
Gonna poat a new message to intorduce
myself :)"

--MaryBeth <still feeling like herself> <G>

"I wasted about 10 years of my life, and lost
many many treasured ppl and things. Please
don't do the same. (((((((SCOUT))))))))))

--MaryBeth

"Slowly but surely my depression got worse and
worse. They put me on meds for it, and all
along kept telling me to wait on the TKR, as
'it really wasn't that bad.....yet". HA!"
The depression got so bad, and lots of other
things happened and my ex and I would up
divorced four years after our move. It was
horrible. The hardest thing I have eve gone
thru"

--MaryBeth

Friday, 5/31/02:
HOWEDY Valerie,

"Valerie M. Holmes" <Holme...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:vVAJ8.14474$LC3.1002840@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

> I recently adopted a female, spayed 3 1/2 yr old dalmatian from
a no-kill
> shelter.

Nice goin.

> She spent 2 years in the shelter and naturally she has some
> socialization issues to overcome.

Naaah not naturally, anyHOWE. Kenneling for a long time
shouldn't have problems associated with it if the facility
was reasonable, and if they're not killin dogs they couldn't
be as cruel as our dog lovers janet boss john richardson
and mikey ball who gladly help dogs DIE.

> My problem is I am not quite sure HOW to tackle these issues...

Don't worry about it! I got all the answers and none of the
calories. All ya got to do is agree to do anything Jerry sez
and you get the aluminum funnel hat, membership card,
secret password, secret decoder ring, secret fan club
privilidges, secret FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual, secret FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method
member's benefits, and secret Contract Signed In
Werewoolf And Elf Blood with a lifetime GUARANTEE
NEVER to have a dog behavior problem again and your
dog will ALWAYS WANT to do as you ask.

IMPOSSIBLE? It gets EVEN BETTER! Stick arHOWEND...

> 1. She is aggresive toward **ALL** other dogs,

Ooops! WE got a TOUGH problem here. I hope you're fit,
dog training is a physical skill not easily learned through
books, the written word just can't SHOW you the precise
moves necessary for commanding a dog.

Every dog is an individual, and we got to SEE the behaviors
to even GUESS what's going on with your dog. THEN we got
to formulate a training program based on the individual dog's
requirements for physical and emotional PRESSURE and learn
the fine art of attrition and have the expertise to hurt your dog
PRECICELY, and ONLY WHEN NECESSARY.

But FIRST, a trip to the vet is in order. Any sudden changes in
behavior needs to be examined by the veterinarian and he'll be
able to give you a referral to such an expert who knows HOWE
and when to HURT your dog properly to make it friendly or
advise you when to KILL IT TO BE FAIR.

So, tomorrow morning call your vet and make an appointment
in 15 days to put your dog to sleep. Ask him HOWE MUCH.
Hang up the phone and SPEAK TO NO ONE!!!

SAY NOTHING TILL you put that money into an envelope
with your dog's name PRINTED on it in UPPER CASE thingys.
MAKE SURE you GO DIRECTLY TO THE BANK, SPEAK
NOTHING!, and withdraw ONLY NEW BILLS!

If you cannot obtain NEW currency KEEP GOIN! We need
CLEAN MONEY for this SACRIFICE. When you accept
this money DO NOT TOUCH! HAVE THE TELLER PUT
THE BILLS INTO THE ENVELOPE AND SEAL IT.

ASK HER TO PRINT YOUR DOG'S NAME ON THE BACK,

Ooops! DON'T! That's just an expression. Hand the teller a
note. DON'T SPEAK!

NOT THE FRONT. THE BACK OF THE SACRIFICIAL
ENVELOPE IN UPPER CASE THINGY'S.

Now you can speak, but don't, nobody will believe you. Trust me.
Take the envelope to your HOWES and put it inside your pillow
case and FORGET ABOUT IT. Don't need that for two weeks yet.

> even dogs that have shown that they are willing to be

submissive.

Oooops? What's that mean? I don't understand doggietalkie.
You mean she attacks other dogs, boys, girls, puppys, all dogs?
Good. That tells me we consistency going for us to fix it.

When does she get an opportunity to have a dog cower?

> Upon sight of a dog, she lunges and snarls.

O.K., that's GOOD! That tells me we can probably break the
lunging in a few minutes of work. Maybe five, but we'll need
to repeat it a few times to generalize the idea. And we'll need
to do a little work to learn to handle her properly, maybe an
hour over several 15 minute sessions and a half dozen 5
minute sessions. I hope your ciphering is keepin up with us.

> 2. She is usually kind and affectionate toward her owner (me),

Well, usually? I don't like usually. I like always,
consistent,100%,
that's what's good. Always consistent. Consistent behaviors
change to other, often seemingly un related, consistent behaviors.

Dogs like consistency too, but not repression. You'll see.

> but recently began turning sour

Ooops! That's good. That tells me the rest of the problem
is as I thought, JUST a little mishandling. I'll teach you
every thing you need to know. We're about half way
done training aready. WATCH!

> and for no apparent reason

All problem dog behaviors are a PREDICTABLE direct result
of our ineffective and inappropriate responses to our dog's
innate normal natural instinctive reflexive responses to
circumstances of their environment WE create for them.

I'll teach you HOWE to train yourself to respond differently
to your dog's instinctive reflexes to you, which will cause
your dog to reflex differently to your CONDITIONED reflexive
responses and interactions towards him, compelling him
to NATURALLY WANT to do EVERY THING you ask,
cause THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.

Once YOU have learned proper handling techniques
and appropriate non physical control through conditioned
distraction and praise *(ABOUT 2 HRS WORK, maybe
less,) you'll be able to negotiate any obstacle LIKE
MAGICK, relying on scientific conditioning and desensitization
techniques and demonstrated self control as explained in
our Contract.. err, your FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method
manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com . Ahem.

Unless you got that one in a BAZILLION dog that's gonna
throw Jerry the dew claw. Don't let that happen. I'll work
you through the whole process and you'll see results
tommorow. You'll have the behavior in pretty good shape
in a week, and in about ten days we should be ready to start
introducing her to a couple select dogs in about fifteen minutes
of work and then we'll repeat that again a couple times and
again with a couple moore dogs and then we'll be ready to start
with the first dog again for the off lead introduction and you're
DONE.

Oooops! PROBLEMO. My arithmetic sez we're gonna
need a couple moore days to work this introduction
business till the aggression is thouroghly and permenantely
extinguished. If we break our Contract, I'm err, shall we say
OUTTA HERE FOREVER?

Of course I could handle this a lot faster in person myself
cause I can control you and your dog to insure the result,
so nobody's got to do nothin noHOWE, but speak when I ask,
and hush as I speak and relish each word like candy you'd eat,
and jump when I say, ask HOWE HIGH and salute, and
tout tributes to Jerry's manual whenever you open your mouth...

That's all. Oh, and one other thing... I hope you don't faint
at the sight of blood. WE got to sign a contract. HOWE
MUCH do you want this dog to turn out PERFECT in
about two weeks? I'm willing to...shall we say STAKE
my ahahahahahaaaa, life on it???

BWWWWAHAHAHAAAA!!!

> and...

And NUTHIN. I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF SATAN, DOG LOVER!!!

You'll do as I say and dance when I speak...and sing
for your breakfast and beg for your treat ...I'll stop at
at nuthin to save your dog's life, include sell the souls
of my dog and my wife, to prove there's no way to make
a dog lover right. I'll go with The Devil to save our dog's
lives, I'll fight tooth and nail with guns and with knives,
I'm droppin the hammer on dog trainer's careers,
and takin their eye teeth along with their rears. They
been jerkin and chokin the life outta dogs and now I
got them all by their balls in my jaws...

Now go ahead and pinch my ears..., or just make me laugh.

I just told you we figured out your dog's problem.

> snarls toward me!

Big deal. She won't do that noMOORE once you learn
to handle her like any of my students.

> This has completely destroyed the trust

What trust? The trust established with your choke collar
and corrections?

Don't worry about a thing. WE got a CONTRACT. Remember?

> we were building over the past month.

BWWWWAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!! Got me laughin
in Spanish and I don't even speak Spanish.

> 3. She deals with visitors,

Deals? Sounds tentative. She's just a little shy. Don't worry
about it.

I'm the only game in town. I got the deal and Jerry don't make no
deals... Well not no moore, since I'm temporarily outta... mmm,
currency.

Jerry don't compromise with dog lovers who prefer to
hurt and kill dogs than spend a couple hours trying to show
the dog HOWE to live instead of forcing IT to choose the
degree of pain it prefers to tolerate in between spurts of life,
anxiety, and repression.

> but is very anxious around people she doesn't know.

Shy. The anxiety is a result of punishment for being aggressive
cause she's shy, or maybe just from back when a puppy jumpin
up onto a guest and gettin kneed in the chest or toes stepped
on or alphaphalpha rolled and growled into their throat pr just
SCRUFF SHAKE and screamed NO for 5 seconds or chin CHUKED
and bit on the ears till they piss themselves or jerked and choked
on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar or burned with a medical
grade static like stimulation device or containment system like
our dog lovers at k9 web and cindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooron recommend TO ENHANCE THE BOND between 'trainer'
and dog.

Our traditional training methods are what's making your dog
turn on you for hurting and scaring her during her meetings
with other dogs. Our pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and
janet boss recommend pronged spiked pinch choke and shock
and citronella collars for training this kind of dog... and they'd
rather not put IT through all that when there's SO MANY dogs
that are deserving of their HELP. And then they'll deny it,
despite
that it's archived FOREVER.

You see where WE're goin with all this? WATCH.

> At first she would scream if a stranger petted her with 2

hands.

I'd probably come real close to dropping the hammer on them
myself. My dogs will bite you if a stranger meeting us put their
hands on us in a restraining manner. We don't like that. Trust me.
Strangers touching us means we got to run and find an adult or
a policeman. RIGHT? Either that or...

> I just don't trust her around anyone yet.

Me too. I never trust a dog. I only trust my training methods
and then we don't got to worry about what the heel the dog
cares... who the heel's the goddamned trainer, you or the
dog?

THE DOG!

You got to TRAIN YOURSELF to reflex to his needs properly
and then he'll reflex to his natural instinct and be able to use
his dog skills as part of your family pack, equally with you
and the other family members.

Every thing you've been taught about handling your dog
is DEAD WRONG and your dog is prima facia evidence
in Jerry's Giiihhhaaad against the dog behavior industry
for bringing us every dog behavior problem we've got.

> 4. She lunged at my sisters 2 year old

$#!T! You're gonna try and make this hard for me aren't ya,
pullin the fear/guilt double high card trump tryin to make Old
Jerry roll over and piss himself with the 2 yo kid card???

NOTHIN DOIN! Get the heel outta here!

IN THE NAME OF SATAN I REBUKE YOU, DOG LOVERS!!!

> the same way she lunged toward other dogs, aggressively.

Duh-Oh! Spooooookey!!! BWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

> I really really like this dog,

THAT'S GREAT! I do too. I like all dogs on general principle
and individual dogs on merit and don't like nobody no moore
than me...and mine. You got your copy of The Contract?
Don't worry about nuthin. Me an mine are comin through
this alive... sort of, in a sense.

> when she is calm and able to relax.

Vs what? I would like to know when she's not calm and able
to relax... tell us what she's doin. THOSE are the anxitey
relief mechanisms WE need to deal with so I can fulfill
OUR Contract and... finish you off, and that little dog too!

> I want to keep her,

LIKEWISE. WE got a long term Contract. Haven't we?

> but I don't really know what the best way to establish
> the necessary trust.

Yeah, as a matter of fact we got EXPERTS here. Let me
INTRODUCE you around?

> Any ideas out there?

Yeah. Our dog lovers were just on their way to another forum.
Weren't you, dog lovers? We'll introduce our new found friends
later. Right now our OP's got some studying to do before she
has an accident cause she won't know HOWE to handle her
lead to stop triggering her dog to pull if she's wastin time with
dog abusers who jerk and choke dogs. That's moore then half
of what gets IT angry.

Now if this sounds too unbelievable I'll just up the ante.

I'll PAY YOU $10.00 / hr to study with me, IF YOU FAIL.
Call or write for details and agreement:

<"Terri"@cyberhighway

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===============

Hello People,

Robert Crim was a former Gang Of Thugs Member, and
hated me a much as the rest of our Thugs do. Robert was a
long time friend and prominent contributor to rpdb, till Jerry
came along and smartened him up. He learned the hard
way, and no longer posts to his former pals, because it is
just too painful knowing his pals would rather HURT and
KILL their dogs than to admit that JERRY is RIGHT.

----------------------------------------------

The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW ; ~ } >
oo-oo

> Assuming you're not a Jerry (Puppy Wizard) sock puppet,

You're a MENTAL CASE, tara o. aka tee.

> why would you listen to anything he has to say

Oh, perhaps that's on accHOWENT of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard doesn't CHOKE SHOCK and MURDER HIS DOGS
like you do, tara o. aka tee.

> after his posts to this thread?

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard's posts IDENTIFYING
EXXXPOSING and DISCREDITING you and your pals as
liars dog abusers and active long term incurable mental cases?

> Notice a trend of everybody but him being a dog
> abuser/murderer/liar/thug/etc etc etc?

INDEED. That's a trend CardioActive wants to avoid.

> If his writing style alone doesn't give him away

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has written the most compelling
INFORMATION on behaviorISM since descartes.

> as strange (to be kind)

INDEEDY! It IS, "STRANGE to be KIND," here abHOWETS.

> then his 600+ line drivel & insults,

You mean CASE HISTORIES, TESTIMONIALS and
ENDORSEMENTS of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students all over the Whole Wild World NOT BEING
"STRANGE TO BE KIND"?

> cross-posted to 5 different newsgroups,

That IS particularly EMBARRASSING. Ain't it, tara o. aka tee.

> ought to...

Let's talk abHOWET your own DEAD DOG Summer?

> or did he somehow guess that your dog is a Pitbull/Lab cross

A dog is a dog.

> (notice how those ngs are now in the distribution)?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard crossposts to dog lovers news
groups cause they need to learn HOWE to handle and train
their dogs withHOWET HURTIN THEM.

> As for giving up,

It's time, tara o. aka tee. You can't post here abHOWETS noMOORE.

> I didn't see a single poster who responded to you with
> advice & their own stories tell you to give up on your dog.

You mean, like HOWE you done your own DEAD DOG Summer?

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >

<"Terri"@cyberhighway

> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I
don't really care.

> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and
> actually admit to buying and having success with his
> little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll
never know.

> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming
> to him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

>Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

===============

Hello People,

Robert Crim was a former Gang Of Thugs Member, and
hated me a much as the rest of our Thugs do. Robert was a
long time friend and prominent contributor to rpdb, till Jerry
came along and smartened him up. He learned the hard
way, and no longer posts to his former pals, because it is
just too painful knowing his pals would rather HURT and
KILL their dogs than to admit that JERRY is RIGHT.

----------------------------------------------

The Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; - ) >

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizard. <{}YPW ; ~ } >
oo-oo


B*@yahoo.com
2005-07-28 13:12:23 EST
Bunny wrote:
> Thanks, but I've had dogs all of my life, ...

They are great companions and I sometimes wonder if we deserver their
love and loyalty. Many years ago, we tried to discipline our dogs but
we found out that that all they need is LOVE and they will do the right
thing.


Handsome Jack Morrison
2005-07-28 13:55:20 EST
b*m@yahoo.com wrote in news:1122570743.353176.231680
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Many years ago, we tried to discipline our dogs but
> we found out that that all they need is LOVE and they will do the right
> thing.

Ashley? Ashley Simpson...is that you?

<sigh>


--
Handsome Jack Morrison
*gently remove the detonator to send me e-mail

"You ask what is our aim? I can answer that in one word, victory at all
costs, victory in spite of terror, victory however long and hard the road
may be; for without victory there is no survival."

Winston Churchill

Good luck, my Canadian friends! It looks like you're going to need it!
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