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HVAC
2012-04-28 13:05:07 EST

Alien abductions make for a good sci-fi plot devices, but it's easy to
forget that we walk among people -- in the real world -- who claim to
have been visited, beamed up and probed by little gray men.

New York photographer Steven Hirsch, 63, has met many of these people
face to face. He visited this year's International UFO Conference to
meet, photograph and interview people who avow close contact with
extraterrestrials.

"I don't want my audience to have any preconceptions about these people
before they see my images and read their words," says Hirsch of his
Little Sticky Legs project. "My interviews barely break the surface of
what is going on in their lives ... or in their minds."

Hirsch, who has freelanced for the New York Post for 18 years, makes a
habit of shooting fringe members of society and gleaning their thoughts.
Past subjects have included those leaving the Manhattan Criminal Court
Building and Crustypunks in the parks of NYC.

For his profile photos and interviews, the fast-talking New Yorker
actually shuts up and listens.

"I'm not an analyst, my questions are not intended to find answers but
to allow people to tell us their stories. Courthouse Confessions,
Crustypunks and Little Sticky Legs are all about storytelling. Their
stories, not mine," says Hirsch. "We've become desensitized to the TV
sound bite. With these projects we can stare at the picture. Stare into
their eyes. Feel their angst. It's a very simple approach. There's no
distractions."

Reports of alien abduction are a relatively new phenomena, with regular
accounts emerging only in the 1960s. Estimates on the number of
abductions vary wildly, from millions (unlikely) to thousands (more
likely). It's safe to say there are hundreds of reported cases in any
given year.

Due to a lack of any substantial physical evidence, abduction testimony
is widely dismissed. In The Abduction Experience: A Critical Evaluation
of Theory and Evidence (.pdf), the late Dr. Stuart Appelle, Professor of
Psychology at SUNY Brockport and specialist in perception, wrote, "no
theory yet enjoys enough empirical support to be accepted as a general
explanation for the abduction experience." Appelle listed
psychopathologies, sleep abnormalities, and personality traits such as a
proneness to fantasy and suggestibility among potential reasons for the
persistence of abduction narratives. Hypnosis treatments, intended to
bring details of suppressed memories of abduction back to the surface,
also come under criticism for actually implanting false memories in
patients instead.

Encounter tales are not told only by people in the margins of society.
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, former leader of the Russian republic of Kalmykia
claims he was visited by a UFO on his balcony in 1997. Last month, Simon
Parkes, a British town councilor, told the press his mother was a
nine-foot alien.

Hirsch, who has also trained his lens on the homes of sex offenders
living on Long Island, is not looking to sugarcoat our world.

“I don’t like people to feel comfortable. My whole life has been edgy. I
live in the East Village. [In years gone by] there were drug dealing
stores downstairs,” he says.

As a kid, Hirsch didn't know the names of Weegee or any street
photographers, but his worldview was likely shaped by their images.

"I’m a hardcore New Yorker. I grew up in Brooklyn. I grew up with the
tabloids," he says. "You’d go down to the corner store at 9 p.m. and
that’s when the Daily News and the Daily Mirror were on the stands with
the day's news. Murders, robberies, fires; papers full of graphic images
of mayhem."

Coming full circle, it was through photographing for the popular news
himself, that Hirsch first started thinking about alien abductees.

"Many years ago I photographed a UFO convention in Connecticut while on
assignment for one of the supermarket tabloids," says Hirsch. "The
experience was mind-boggling and stuck with me for decades." This year,
he was finally able to get out to Arizona and follow through on his own
project.

Much of American UFO lore is based in the southwestern states of Arizona
and New Mexico, and Hirsch has traveled many times through desert towns
full of unique characters. For him, the distance between New York City
and way out west is measured in more than just miles; it's measured in
attitude and psyche.

"The Southwest landscape effects the way people think. It’s trippy out
there," he says. "In New York you have no sense of the universe, but in
the Southwest you can’t avoid the sky; you get a sense of scale of --
and an intimacy with -- the universe."

`````

Cynthia

"I've met Salamander beings and I've met various different types of
Greys. I've also met the Blue Arcturians which are incredible. They all
have their own personalities and their own purposes. I've met
Andromedans, the Assyrian Warriors of Light. I've met the Sirius
Nephrons. I've also met the Cat People that are from Sirius. I've
actually seen people that can shape shift from human looking to
Reptilians. [...] Part of my mission is to help people get to the ships
that need to be on the ships. […] Many of the Starseeds that are here on
Earth on special missions are taken to the ships where they are then
informed of the changes in the strategies. I've never yet ever met a
being that was malevolent. I've always meet the benevolent ones. I'd
never experienced unconditional love till I've met them face to face and
had conscious contact with them."


http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2012/04/alien-abductee-portraits-probe-the-outer-reaches/





--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

John Baker
2012-04-28 14:55:50 EST
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:05:07 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:


God damn it! I didn't have an anal probe! Screw you guys. I'm going
home.



Sir Gilligan Horry
2012-04-28 15:43:48 EST
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:05:07 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:

>Alien Abductions ... Probed ... You?

Probably close in 1999 when I viewed that huge blue light flying
towards my house while I was washing the dishes.
I shouted out to my girl-friend who was in the shower.
Then I ran outside onto the garage roof.
So there I was standing on top of a building
watching that blue light about 10 houses away.
And I could have been beamed up and probed by Humans pretending to be
Evil Aliens, real Evil Aliens, Evil Humans, Evil Aliens pretending to
be Humans, M.I.B, Mafia Humans, Mafia Aliens, Aliens not wanting to be
Evil but abducting and probing anyway, Good Humans afraid of the fact
there are 57,822 different species of Aliens and thus therefor
abducting and probing everyone to align themselves with 57,822
different species of Aliens to see what they are all doing, etc, etc.
I could give a Trillion more examples if I could please borrow an NSA
Mobile Command Center Small Motor Home with Sat Links, Alien
Newsgroups, CB Radio, Internet, Mars Communications, Galaxies, etc,
with UFOs ET Aliens Extraterrestrials Reports on the Sir Arthur CB
Radio UFO Proof PROOVED(tm) Short Wide Medium Long Band
Waves Beaming-Out Show 24/7


______________________

___


Alt Alien Research Intelligence Agency Official Admiral Wizzard.
(i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/SirGilliganHorry/Alien_UFO_Research_Intelligence_Agency.jpg)
... here... http://bit.ly/gsYSvc

"Project Mothership" UFOs Aliens Proof Evidence...
http://www.geocities.ws/project_mothership/

Documentary "WATER" ... by Saida Medvedeva.
Beautiful Documentary ...
http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html

For Those Who Want To Know...
http://www.WantToKnow.info

Best Aliens UFOs Videos Proof Evidence...
http://BestAliensUFOsVideos.blogspot.com

Aliens UFOs Extraterrestrials Videos Documentaries...
http://YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency


___

HVAC
2012-04-28 17:42:44 EST
On 4/28/2012 3:43 PM, Sir Gilligan Horry wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:05:07 -0400, HVAC<mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alien Abductions ... Probed ... You?
>
> Probably close in 1999 when I viewed that huge blue light flying
> towards my house while I was washing the dishes.
> I shouted out to my girl-friend who was in the shower.
> Then I ran outside onto the garage roof.
> So there I was standing on top of a building
> watching that blue light about 10 houses away.


That close and you STILL couldn't get any action, probe-wise?
Oh well, maybe next time.













--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

Fidem Turbare, The Non-existent Atheist Goddess
2012-04-28 20:48:10 EST
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:55:50 -0400
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:05:07 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> God damn it! I didn't have an anal probe! Screw you guys. I'm going
> home.

Have you ever noticed that aliens occasionally appear in the background
in some South Park episodes that don't actually have anything to do
with aliens? (I thought I was seeing things the first time I noticed
this, but replaying the scene at that time confirmed otherwise.)

--
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
"Dad! Tom Cruise won't come out of my closet!"
-- Stan Marsh

Sir Gilligan Horry
2012-04-29 00:46:25 EST
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:42:44 -0400, HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 4/28/2012 3:43 PM, Sir Gilligan Horry wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:05:07 -0400, HVAC<mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alien Abductions ... Probed ... You?
>>
>> Probably close in 1999 when I viewed that huge blue light flying
>> towards my house while I was washing the dishes.
>> I shouted out to my girl-friend who was in the shower.
>> Then I ran outside onto the garage roof.
>> So there I was standing on top of a building
>> watching that blue light about 10 houses away.
>
>
>That close and you STILL couldn't get any action, probe-wise?
>Oh well, maybe next time.

"The Force" might help me keep safe in UseNet NewsGroups.
STAR WARS is amazing. The only one I haven't watched recently is
'Clone Wars'. I went to a video hire shop yesterday and they didn't
have any STAR WARS. So I hired the MATRIX and
BLAST FROM THE PAST.

(no joke)

That's the Life in a Day with...
___


Alt Alien Research Intelligence Agency Official Admiral Wizzard.
(i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/SirGilliganHorry/Alien_UFO_Research_Intelligence_Agency.jpg)
... here... http://bit.ly/gsYSvc

"Project Mothership" UFOs Aliens Proof Evidence...
http://www.geocities.ws/project_mothership/

Documentary "WATER" ... by Saida Medvedeva.
Beautiful Documentary ...
http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html

For Those Who Want To Know...
http://www.WantToKnow.info

Best Aliens UFOs Videos Proof Evidence...
http://BestAliensUFOsVideos.blogspot.com

Aliens UFOs Extraterrestrials Videos Documentaries...
http://YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency


___

G=EMC^2
2012-04-29 07:58:15 EST
On Apr 28, 1:05 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alien abductions make for a good sci-fi plot devices, but it's easy to
> forget that we walk among people -- in the real world -- who claim to
> have been visited, beamed up and probed by little gray men.
>
> New York photographer Steven Hirsch, 63, has met many of these people
> face to face. He visited this year's International UFO Conference to
> meet, photograph and interview people who avow close contact with
> extraterrestrials.
>
> "I don't want my audience to have any preconceptions about these people
> before they see my images and read their words," says Hirsch of his
> Little Sticky Legs project. "My interviews barely break the surface of
> what is going on in their lives ... or in their minds."
>
> Hirsch, who has freelanced for the New York Post for 18 years, makes a
> habit of shooting fringe members of society and gleaning their thoughts.
> Past subjects have included those leaving the Manhattan Criminal Court
> Building and Crustypunks in the parks of NYC.
>
> For his profile photos and interviews, the fast-talking New Yorker
> actually shuts up and listens.
>
> "I'm not an analyst, my questions are not intended to find answers but
> to allow people to tell us their stories. Courthouse Confessions,
> Crustypunks and Little Sticky Legs are all about storytelling. Their
> stories, not mine," says Hirsch. "We've become desensitized to the TV
> sound bite. With these projects we can stare at the picture. Stare into
> their eyes. Feel their angst. It's a very simple approach. There's no
> distractions."
>
> Reports of alien abduction are a relatively new phenomena, with regular
> accounts emerging only in the 1960s. Estimates on the number of
> abductions vary wildly, from millions (unlikely) to thousands (more
> likely). It's safe to say there are hundreds of reported cases in any
> given year.
>
> Due to a lack of any substantial physical evidence, abduction testimony
> is widely dismissed. In The Abduction Experience: A Critical Evaluation
> of Theory and Evidence (.pdf), the late Dr. Stuart Appelle, Professor of
> Psychology at SUNY Brockport and specialist in perception, wrote, "no
> theory yet enjoys enough empirical support to be accepted as a general
> explanation for the abduction experience." Appelle listed
> psychopathologies, sleep abnormalities, and personality traits such as a
> proneness to fantasy and suggestibility among potential reasons for the
> persistence of abduction narratives. Hypnosis treatments, intended to
> bring details of suppressed memories of abduction back to the surface,
> also come under criticism for actually implanting false memories in
> patients instead.
>
> Encounter tales are not told only by people in the margins of society.
> Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, former leader of the Russian republic of Kalmykia
> claims he was visited by a UFO on his balcony in 1997. Last month, Simon
> Parkes, a British town councilor, told the press his mother was a
> nine-foot alien.
>
> Hirsch, who has also trained his lens on the homes of sex offenders
> living on Long Island, is not looking to sugarcoat our world.
>
> “I don’t like people to feel comfortable. My whole life has been edgy. I
> live in the East Village. [In years gone by] there were drug dealing
> stores downstairs,” he says.
>
> As a kid, Hirsch didn't know the names of Weegee or any street
> photographers, but his worldview was likely shaped by their images.
>
> "I’m a hardcore New Yorker. I grew up in Brooklyn. I grew up with the
> tabloids," he says. "You’d go down to the corner store at 9 p.m. and
> that’s when the Daily News and the Daily Mirror were on the stands with
> the day's news. Murders, robberies, fires; papers full of graphic images
> of mayhem."
>
> Coming full circle, it was through photographing for the popular news
> himself, that Hirsch first started thinking about alien abductees.
>
> "Many years ago I photographed a UFO convention in Connecticut while on
> assignment for one of the supermarket tabloids," says Hirsch. "The
> experience was mind-boggling and stuck with me for decades." This year,
> he was finally able to get out to Arizona and follow through on his own
> project.
>
> Much of American UFO lore is based in the southwestern states of Arizona
> and New Mexico, and Hirsch has traveled many times through desert towns
> full of unique characters. For him, the distance between New York City
> and way out west is measured in more than just miles; it's measured in
> attitude and psyche.
>
> "The Southwest landscape effects the way people think. It’s trippy out
> there," he says. "In New York you have no sense of the universe, but in
> the Southwest you can’t avoid the sky; you get a sense of scale of --
> and an intimacy with -- the universe."
>
> `````
>
> Cynthia
>
> "I've met Salamander beings and I've met various different types of
> Greys. I've also met the Blue Arcturians which are incredible. They all
> have their own personalities and their own purposes. I've met
> Andromedans, the Assyrian Warriors of Light. I've met the Sirius
> Nephrons. I've also met the Cat People that are from Sirius. I've
> actually seen people that can shape shift from human looking to
> Reptilians. [...] Part of my mission is to help people get to the ships
> that need to be on the ships. […] Many of the Starseeds that are here on
> Earth on special missions are taken to the ships where they are then
> informed of the changes in the strategies. I've never yet ever met a
> being that was malevolent. I've always meet the benevolent ones. I'd
> never experienced unconditional love till I've met them face to face and
> had conscious contact with them."
>
> http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2012/04/alien-abductee-portraits-probe-t...
>
> --
> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

HVAC passes out free viagra to his black boy friends to get probed.
Get the picture TreBert

HVAC
2012-04-29 08:40:14 EST
On 4/29/2012 7:58 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>
> HVAC passes out free viagra to his black boy friends to get probed.
> Get the picture TreBert



That's very racialist of you, Bert.













--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

G=EMC^2
2012-04-29 08:48:51 EST
On Apr 29, 8:40 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/29/2012 7:58 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>
>
> > HVAC passes out free viagra to his black boy friends to get probed.
> > Get the picture   TreBert
>
> That's very racialist of you, Bert.
>
> --
> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

There are no liberal racists . Is it possible you bend over backwards
to be nice to your black friends? You being a GOPer "It Fits"
TreBert

HVAC
2012-04-29 08:56:22 EST
On 4/29/2012 8:48 AM, G=EMC^2 wrote:
>
>>
>> That's very racialist of you, Bert.
>>
>> --
>
> There are no liberal racists . Is it possible you bend over backwards
> to be nice to your black friends? You being a GOPer "It Fits"
> TreBert



I'm not a republican.











--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
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