What else are they supposed to do? Admit that evidence exists for the possibility of ET contact, either in the past or the present, and then have to admit to the possibility of total and systematic world-wide conspiracy, which is what such an admission would amount to, btw, if such knowledge exists. Consider the consequences of debunkers actually coming clean! Their addiction to disinformation and half- truths fuels their endless crusade to deny what they know to be the final nail in the coffin of their weak cosmogony. They are missionaries, positioning themselves in a final attempt to convert BELIEVERS to their habitual dislike for any idea that threatens their daily routine, the whitewash that they call 'reality', the way things are, the status quo.
Consider the implications of such an announcement. We're talking about changing the way people actually think, since entirely new thought structures would arise from an ET perspective; whole new realms of knowledge would flood our minds; we would become connected with both the past and the future if such an event took place, and in this time, it's quite possible that such an idea might ripple through future time and destroy us, or perhaps promote a new peace.
Debunkers portray any analysis of hypothetical ET-related phenomenon as an inherently flawed thought process, and the very idea is laughed at! The ETH remains taboo. Is it not simply the result of one scientific observation which has led to an efficient method of data collection represented by the best evidence reported by govt., military, commercial and public sectors alike. Are these reports not potential candidates and do they not meet the accepted guidelines for admissible evidence? The evidence exists, however, it is interpreted differently depending on how one approaches the actual numbers.
To the debunker, NOTHING but hard-core physical evidence for ET., like a Sirian license plate, or proverbial dead alien, will ever be good enough. The debunkers ask for repeatable evidence. Methods of data collection have been implemented in the past and are taking place now. Thanks to the FOIA, we get to read what's left of the reports, if any evidence remains once the debunkers are finished with our friend, the trusty black marker.
Debunkers change the rules by changing the tools of observation. The debunker will argue and grandstand on points *aside* from the sighting, apart from the incident under discussion, in order to lead the discussion away from the possibility of knowledge. Actual discovery could in fact lead one to develop an extra-terrestrial hypothesis. But debunking the discovery could lead one to deny it. Either way, data is used to convince one of the merits of one side or the other. For debunkers, however, there is no debate. There in only one possibility, and that is a mundane explanation. [Remember, don't dare question a debunker or you'll end up getting labeled a 'believer'.]
Debunkers have the bases covered, _at all times_, and everytime they post, they do so knowingly, in fact with intent, to dissuade, deny, lie, and complain about how the evidence doesn't exist, and still, all the while, the debunker refuses to look at the EVIDENCE. [It's like a mad-tea-party! And the debunkers are all sitting together at the table drinking tea with the Mad Debunker himself, Queen Dean. The Queen sits there, conversing through the noisy throng of skeptibunkers, asking each debunker questions that have no real answers.]
But even under so-called scientific examination, the data may sometimes get set aside, whether it is because of practical financial interests that fund research, or the quality of the data alone, the sad truth becomes painfully obvious; stockholders control the data, not the scientists. Recent examples of such events may be found in the daily paper.
So in fact, science is controlled by the financial interests of investors who couldn't give a flying fuck about TRUTH and EVIDENCE. All they are concerned with is the bottom line, which translates into cold cash, if not just meaningless binary digits alone.
Therefore, to state the obvious, scientific results can be manipulated in the name of ambition and profit, leaving much doubt as to the true state of evidence, in any form. Whether such a hypothetical cover-up could go on for very long, is questionable. Unless such evidence was physically destroyed, the truth would eventually get out, somehow, unless those in possession of the 'facts' had a way of erasing evidence of its existence. It would also have to be the greatest secret of all time, the greatest story ever told, so to speak. What would give this story added legitimacy however, would be the scientific acknowledgement of certain fundamental, underlying repetitive factors, which may or may not reflect an internal consistency that responds to the presentation of data which hopefully can be simulated and controlled for further testing.
If any thread can be found, if any answers can be obtained, shouldn't a clear and careful focus on a common thread be the first priority in an ongoing investigation as to whether or not evidence exists in favor of the ETH? I also wonder how one would one go about testing for alien phenomena and I question exactly what threshold is necessary for data to become legitimate in the eyes of the establishment.
Insisting on only physical evidence alone is ridiculous. This limitation goes against our most fundamental notions of reality. But I will admit, that without physical evidence, it is impossible to base any educated belief in the notion that "space aliens are on our planet now". However, it needs to be said, this is NOT the argument being proposed on these newsgroups. This thread title clearly demonstrates the lengths debunkers will go to deceive us, and the plain fact that debunkers create their own arguments to knock down the one of their opponents without *ever* having to confront the FACTS of the actual argument.
If we were to actually listen to the debunkers, we would become mental midgets, strapped to a rigid body of knowledge, and confined to house arrest. If we had listened to the debunkers we would still be slaves, or serfs or peasants, toiling in the 'masters' field, content with the whip and the chain.
From: Josh Olaf
As a further incentive to monitor these groups - in 2012 NO debunkers will be allowed to post here. Other posters will need a special yearly license which costs $500. You will be allowed one post and one response a week to another post.
Thank you for your kind consideration.
2011-12-31 07:48:55 EST
On 12/31/2011 7:25 AM, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA wrote:
> What else are they supposed to do? Admit that evidence exists for the > possibility of ET contact,
Request to 'contact' an alien is denied.
-- "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
Sir Gilligan Horry
2011-12-31 07:50:04 EST
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:25:03 -0800 (PST), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>Other posters will need a special >yearly license which costs $500. You will be allowed one post and one >response a week to another post. > >Thank you for your kind consideration. > >Sir Artio
Other posters will need a special yearly license which costs 5kg of gold a day. You will be allowed one post and one response a day to another post. That gold will help Sir Gilligan Horry save the world while safe on a mothership... http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-12/26/content_14326763.htm
Thank you for your kind consideration.
Sir Gilligan Horry.
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Only one experience has committed my mind to the existence of UFO's and that was dubiously on the influence of magic mushrooms. But two others experienced it as well, and in the night sky, on a vacant evening, we saw a sky populated with thousands of vessels. The debunkers are obviously seeing things through a Mammon filter, and can't detect, microscopically or macroscopically the millions of intelligent people that co-inhabit our universe.
I also telekinetically started a major fire during that event. But you'd never be able to prove it, so I can't be held accountable. Thank god for debunkers!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
2011-12-31 21:48:47 EST
On Dec 31, 4:50 am, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:25:03 -0800 (PST), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers > > ASA <scie...@zzz.com> wrote: > >Other posters will need a special > >yearly license which costs $500. You will be allowed one post and one > >response a week to another post. > > >Thank you for your kind consideration. > > >Sir Artio > > Other posters will need a special yearly license > which costs 5kg of gold a day. > You will be allowed one post and one > response a day to another post. > That gold will help Sir Gilligan Horry > save the world while safe on a mothership...http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-12/26/content_14326763.htm > > Thank you for your kind consideration. > > Sir Gilligan Horry. > > ___________ > > ___ > > ___ > > Alt Alien Research Intelligence Agency Official Admiral Wizzard. > (i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/SirGilliganHorry/Alien_UFO_Research_Intelligence_Agency.jpg) > ... here...http://bit.ly/gsYSvc > > "Project Mothership" UFOs Aliens Proof Evidence...http://www.geocities.ws/project_mothership/ > > Documentary "WATER" ... by Saida Medvedeva. > Beautiful Documentary ...http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html > > For Those Who Want To Know...http://www.WantToKnow.info > > Alien UFO Video Proof. Aliens UFOs Free Videos. Free UFO Videos...http://AliensUFOsFreeVideos.blogspot.com > > Aliens UFOs Extraterrestrials Videos Documentaries...http://YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency > > ___
Since YOU don't have a license YOU can't post here. So Sorry, rules are rules and debunkers are now considered persona non grata. Your banishment from the internets will be duly noted. Rest assured nobody will miss the debunkers or their ilk: their enablers, supporters and sympathizers. They will be dealt with at a later date.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
2012-01-03 02:19:34 EST
On Dec 31 2011, 4:25 am, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA <*.@zzz.com> wrote: > 'The Debunkers' Last Stand
> From: Josh Olaf > > As a further incentive to monitor these groups - in 2012 NO debunkers > will be allowed to post here. Other posters will need a special > yearly license which costs $500. You will be allowed one post and one > response a week to another post. > > Thank you for your kind consideration. > > Sir Artio
This HAS to be the VERY last warning: Debunkers (and their ilk) are NOT allowed here this year. There are NO exceptions including Hagar and the other truth-terrorists. Mankind simply does NOT want you or need you.