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Hager
2011-01-31 09:52:05 EST
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis

Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to the
crazy, bearded Mullahs ...

Oh'Bummer, a devout Muslim, will see to it that the same thing
happens in Egypt ... for the "Brotherhood", as it were.

And, in a common public display of him finely honed stupidity
skills, Chris Matthews implied that Egypt and the Panama Canal
may be in danger of being taken over by radicals ....

You've gotta love those Liberals ... they're so ....Mentally
Disorderly ???



Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
2011-01-31 10:06:15 EST
On Jan 31, 6:52 am, "Hager" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis
>
> Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to the
> crazy, bearded Mullahs ...
>
> Oh'Bummer, a devout Muslim, will see to it that the same thing
> happens in Egypt ... for the "Brotherhood", as it were.
>
> And, in a common public display of him finely honed stupidity
> skills, Chris Matthews implied that Egypt and the Panama Canal
> may be in danger of being taken over by radicals ....
>
> You've gotta love those Liberals ... they're so ....Mentally
> Disorderly ???

Bush Family Funded Adolf Hitler

Have you ever wondered how Adolph Hitler - a mediocre painter of
Austrian origin - transformed himself into Germany’s Fuhrer during the
1930s and 1940s?

The Nazi phenomenon was no historical coincidence, and far less a
philosophical whim made real by just one man. Nazism had its
followers, many of them exceptionally wealthy, veritable alchemists of
the financial world back then.

According to research carried out over the last few years, Wall Street
bankers (amongst others) financed Hitler’s rise to power whilst making
large profits at the same time. What is yet still more deplorable is
the fact that relatives of the current U.S. president were amongst
this group of individuals.

U.S. authors Webster G. Tarpley and Anton Cheitkin reveal in the
recently published George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography that
Prescott Bush (George W. Bush’s grandfather) and other directors of
the Union Banking Company (UBC) were Nazi collaborators.

The book relates how in 1922 - when national socialism was emerging -
railroad impresario W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin and
interviewed the Thyssen family with a view to founding a German-U.S.
bank. The Thyssens were already behind-the-scenes owners of several
financial institutions that allowed them to transfer their money from
Germany to the Netherlands and from there onto the United States.

The banks in question were the August Thyssen Bank whose headquarters
were located in Berlin; the Bank voor Handel (Netherlands) and the
Union Banking Corporation (New York). At the beginning of the 1920s,
one of the members of this family, Fritz Thyssen - author of I Paid
Hitler - contributed some $25,000 USD to the recently formed German
National Socialist Workers’ Party, becoming the prime and most
important financier of the Fuhrer in his ascent to power.

According to the book’s authors, Thyssen was fascinated by Hitler,
citing his talent as a public speaker and his ability to lead the
masses. However, what impressed him most was the order that prevailed
at his rallies and the almost military discipline of his followers.

And so, in 1931 Thyssen joined the Nazi party, becoming one of the
most powerful members of the Nazi war machine.

At that time, the magnate presided over the German Steel Trust, a
steel industry consortium founded by Clarence Dillon, one of Wall
Street’s most influential men. One of Dillon’s most trustworthy
collaborators was Samuel Bush: Prescott’s father, George Senior’s
grandfather and great-grandfather of the current U.S. president George
W. Bush.

In 1923, Harriman and the Thyssens decided to set up a bank and
appointed George Herbert Walker - Prescott’s father-in-law - as
president. Later, in 1926, they established the Union Banking
Corporation (UBC) with Prescott Bush at the helm. That same year, he
was also named vice president and partner at Brown Brothers Harriman.
Both firms allowed the Thyssens to send money to the United States
from Germany via the Netherlands.

U.S. economist Victor Thorn has noted that although a large number of
other corporations aided the Nazis (such as Standard Oil and
Rockefeller’s Chase Bank, as well as U.S. automobile manufacturers)
Prescott Bush’s interests were much more profound and sinister.
Thorn adds that UBC became a secret channel to protect Nazi capital
leaving Germany for the United States via the Netherlands. When the
Nazis needed to retrieve their funds, Brown Brothers Harriman sent
them directly to Germany.

In this way, UBC received money from the Netherlands and Brown
Brothers Harriman sent it back. And who was on the executive of both
of these companies? Prescott Bush himself, the Nazis’ first money
launderer.

In their book, Tarpley and Chaitkin explain that in this way a
significant part of the Bush family’s financial base is related to
supporting and aiding Adolph Hitler. Therefore, the current U.S.
president, just like his father (former CIA director, vice president
and president) reached the peak of the U.S. political hierarchy thanks
to his great-grandfather and grandfather and generally his entire
family, who financially aided and encouraged the Nazis.

Some time later, in October 1942, the U.S. authorities confiscated
Nazi bank funds from the New York UBC, whose then president was
Prescott. The firm was condemned as a financial and commercial
collaborator with the enemy and all its assets were seized.
Later, the U.S. government also ordered the seizure of the assets of a
further two leading financial agencies directed by Prescott through
the accounts of the Harriman banking institution: the Holland-America
Trading Corporation (a U.S.-Dutch commercial firm) and the Seamless
Steel Equipment Corporation.

Then on November 11, 1942, an embargo was imposed on the Silesian-
American Corporation - another firm headed by Bush and Walker - under
the same Trading with the Enemy Act.
However, in 1951, the embargo was lifted and the enterprising
businessman recovered some $1.5 million USD, earmarked for new
investments largely to swell the Bush family’s patrimony.
To this should be added a resumé of files belonging to Dutch and U.S.
information services confirming the direct links between Prescott
Bush, the German Thyssen family and the blood money of a group of rich
U.S. families from the Second World War.

Tarpley and Chaitkin affirm that the great financial crash of
1929-1931 affected the United States, Germany and Britain, weakening
their respective governments. At the same time, Prescott Bush became
even more diligent, still more desirous of doing everything that was
necessary to safeguard his place in the world. It was during this
crisis that some members of the Anglo-U.S wealthy class supported the
installation of Hitler’s regime in Germany.

To sum up, the authors categorically state that the Bush family’s
fortune arose as a result of its unconditional support for Adolph
Hitler’s political project.

The UBC, under Prescott Bush’s direction and with the long-term
cooperation of Fritz Thyssen’s German Steel Trust participated in the
emergence, preparation and financing of the Nazi war machine through
the manufacture of armored vehicles, fighter planes, guns and
explosives.
The Bush family’s habit of dominating territories and wealth is
nothing new. Their fascist genes were generated during the 1930s.
Therefore defining the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq and the
threats to other countries as a continuance of blitzkreig offensives
as fascist is no blunder. Neither is convening an anti-fascist front
is a rhetorical exercise.

Astrid Barnet/Granma International


Hager
2011-01-31 10:17:37 EST

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> wrote in message
news:58475c70-00f3-4582-b524-7dc278d52aa7@s28g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 31, 6:52 am, "Hager" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis
>
> Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to
> the
> crazy, bearded Mullahs ...
>
> Oh'Bummer, a devout Muslim, will see to it that the same thing
> happens in Egypt ... for the "Brotherhood", as it were.
>
> And, in a common public display of him finely honed stupidity
> skills, Chris Matthews implied that Egypt and the Panama Canal
> may be in danger of being taken over by radicals ....
>
> You've gotta love those Liberals ... they're so ....Mentally
> Disorderly ???

Bush Family Funded Adolf Hitler

Have you ever wondered how Adolph Hitler - a mediocre painter of Austrian
origin - transformed himself into Germany\ufffds Fuhrer during the 1930s and
1940s?

*********************************
Besides the fact that you are an uneducated moron, as evidenced
by the mispelled First Name of the F\ufffdhrer, your idiotic drivel
has convinced me and the world, that the Bush and Cheney families as the
sole agents responsible for the rise of the Third Reich. Obama will make it
all better by taxing the shit out of
Germany ... ooops ... he isn't the King, yet ....





Notroll2012
2011-01-31 12:03:06 EST


"Hager" wrote in message
news:QPKdnR_65OcLUdvQnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis

Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to the
crazy, bearded Mullahs ...

***************************************************************************************
No, Ike did that when the CIA toppled the democratically elected government
at the behest of big oil. And George Bush didn't even know how to spell
Egypt. Much of the aid we provide Egypt comes back in the form of purchases
for the US war machine. So guess which CEOs are shitting bricks sideways?


Herbert Glazier
2011-01-31 18:23:31 EST
On Jan 31, 12:03 pm, "Notroll2012" <notroll2...@charter.net> wrote:
> "Hager"  wrote in message
>
> news:QPKdnR_65OcLUdvQnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis
>
> Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to the
> crazy, bearded Mullahs ...
>
> ***************************************************************************************
> No, Ike did that when the CIA toppled the democratically elected government
> at the behest of big oil.  And George Bush didn't even know how to spell
> Egypt.  Much of the aid we provide Egypt comes back in the form of purchases
> for the US war machine.  So guess which CEOs are shitting bricks sideways?

Reality is Florida went 13 years ago as Egypt is today. In Florida the
GOPers made protesting against the law. No first amendment rights in
Florida,and even walking the sidewalks with signs can put you in jail.
You need permits by a GOPer judge. It begs the question. Will Obama
figure out who to go with. "the people,or the Army?" TreBert

Hagar
2011-01-31 19:47:16 EST

"Notroll2012" <notroll2012@charter.net> wrote in message
news:eXB1p.1797$Pi6.1130@newsfe01.iad...
>
>
> "Hager" wrote in message
> news:QPKdnR_65OcLUdvQnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis
>
> Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to
> the
> crazy, bearded Mullahs ...
>
> ***************************************************************************************
> No, Ike did that when the CIA toppled the democratically elected
> government at the behest of big oil. And George Bush didn't even know how
> to spell Egypt. Much of the aid we provide Egypt comes back in the form
> of purchases for the US war machine. So guess which CEOs are shitting
> bricks sideways?

I just love it when I see proof of a Liberal brain-washing job
done so well. Have any other inane drivel up your sleeve, you
demented Loon ???



Notroll2012
2011-01-31 20:42:29 EST


"herbert glazier" wrote in message
news:50670fb8-262d-4d09-9b1c-79b9e1b3b17c@o32g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

On Jan 31, 12:03 pm, "Notroll2012" <notroll2...@charter.net> wrote:
> "Hager" wrote in message
>
> news:QPKdnR_65OcLUdvQnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis
>
> Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to
> the
> crazy, bearded Mullahs ...
>
> ***************************************************************************************
> No, Ike did that when the CIA toppled the democratically elected
> government
> at the behest of big oil. And George Bush didn't even know how to spell
> Egypt. Much of the aid we provide Egypt comes back in the form of
> purchases
> for the US war machine. So guess which CEOs are shitting bricks sideways?

Reality is Florida went 13 years ago as Egypt is today. In Florida the
GOPers made protesting against the law. No first amendment rights in
Florida,and even walking the sidewalks with signs can put you in jail.
You need permits by a GOPer judge. It begs the question. Will Obama
figure out who to go with. "the people,or the Army?" TreBert

****************************************************************************************
Jury's out on that one.


Vtcapo
2011-02-01 07:05:28 EST
On Jan 31, 6:23 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 12:03 pm, "Notroll2012" <notroll2...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > "Hager"  wrote in message
>
> >news:QPKdnR_65OcLUdvQnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis
>
> > Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to the
> > crazy, bearded Mullahs ...
>
> > *************************************************************************** ************
> > No, Ike did that when the CIA toppled the democratically elected government
> > at the behest of big oil.  And George Bush didn't even know how to spell
> > Egypt.  Much of the aid we provide Egypt comes back in the form of purchases
> > for the US war machine.  So guess which CEOs are shitting bricks sideways?
>
> Reality is Florida went 13 years ago as Egypt is today. In Florida the
> GOPers made protesting against the law. No first amendment rights in
> Florida,and even walking the sidewalks with signs can put you in jail.
> You need permits by a GOPer judge. It begs the question.  Will Obama
> figure out who to go with. "the people,or the Army?"   TreBert

I've lived in Florida since 1972. You better have all your ducks in a
row if you plan to do anything in the Sunshine State. Not only do you
have the law to contend with, inspectors drive around neighborhoods
and helicopters patrol and photograph same. It's also been my
experience that your neighbors will drop a dime on you in the blink of
an eye for any infraction.

Bert you should know better. You NEVER piss off the law in
Florida.....

RT

HVAC
2011-02-01 08:44:57 EST
On 2/1/2011 4:05 AM, vtcapo wrote:

>
> I've lived in Florida since 1972. You better have all your ducks in a
> row if you plan to do anything in the Sunshine State. Not only do you
> have the law to contend with, inspectors drive around neighborhoods
> and helicopters patrol and photograph same. It's also been my
> experience that your neighbors will drop a dime on you in the blink of
> an eye for any infraction.
>
> Bert you should know better. You NEVER piss off the law in
> Florida.....


Send in Gator McClusky.

Hagar
2011-02-01 10:03:01 EST

"vtcapo" <vtcapo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0cbbe87b-12ee-42e5-a42d-99ccc569b2ac@k30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 31, 6:23 pm, herbert glazier <herbertglazi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 12:03 pm, "Notroll2012" <notroll2...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > "Hager" wrote in message
>
> >news:QPKdnR_65OcLUdvQnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis
>
> > Not to worry, Jimmy Carter's incompetence sold the Iranian people out to
> > the
> > crazy, bearded Mullahs ...
>
> > ***************************************************************************
> > ************
> > No, Ike did that when the CIA toppled the democratically elected
> > government
> > at the behest of big oil. And George Bush didn't even know how to spell
> > Egypt. Much of the aid we provide Egypt comes back in the form of
> > purchases
> > for the US war machine. So guess which CEOs are shitting bricks
> > sideways?
>
> Reality is Florida went 13 years ago as Egypt is today. In Florida the
> GOPers made protesting against the law. No first amendment rights in
> Florida,and even walking the sidewalks with signs can put you in jail.
> You need permits by a GOPer judge. It begs the question. Will Obama
> figure out who to go with. "the people,or the Army?" TreBert

I've lived in Florida since 1972. You better have all your ducks in a
row if you plan to do anything in the Sunshine State. Not only do you
have the law to contend with, inspectors drive around neighborhoods
and helicopters patrol and photograph same. It's also been my
experience that your neighbors will drop a dime on you in the blink of
an eye for any infraction.

Bert you should know better. You NEVER piss off the law in
Florida.....

RT

********************************
Wow ... theTroll, vtCrappo and the BertBrain ... we've got us
a K00k Froth Festival going on ... keep kook-dancing you
puppets .... dance, dunces, dance ...


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