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Hagar
2010-11-13 14:30:16 EST
China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).

In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then cheated
the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the UAW to gain
majority. Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling out to the
Chinese.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china

Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
another Obama Motors/China Motors product. The selling of America has
begun.
Just remember which political party was the instigator in this traitorous
first step.



Notroll2012
2010-11-13 15:28:56 EST

"Hagar" <hmsahm@suregas.net> wrote in message
news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>
> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
> UAW to gain majority. Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling out
> to the Chinese.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>
> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
> another Obama Motors/China Motors product. The selling of America has
> begun.
> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this traitorous
> first step.
>
>
Repugs have been doing it for years. This is hardly the beginning.



Larry Kroger
2010-11-13 20:24:43 EST
"Hagar" <hmsahm@suregas.net> wrote in message
news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>
> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
> UAW to gain majority. Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling out
> to the Chinese.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>
> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
> another Obama Motors/China Motors product. The selling of America has
> begun.
> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this traitorous
> first step.

Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge that
neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion by
throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It seemed
a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious that GM was
going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do is waste money
keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's dime, while enabling
the bad behavior to continue. Would have been better to simply let GM go
broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which would have kept the company
operating but relieved it of unsustainable debts. Could have even been an
opportunity to throw off the UAW, if anyone with guts was at the helm. But
no, both Bush and Obama made a big show of "saving" the company, giving us
first Government Motors and now (in part) China Motors.


Hagar
2010-11-14 11:14:39 EST

"Larry Kroger" <lkroger9974@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:zTGDo.16263$z41.16180@newsfe05.iad...
> "Hagar" <hmsahm@suregas.net> wrote in message
> news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>>
>> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
>> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
>> UAW to gain majority. Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling
>> out to the Chinese.
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>>
>> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
>> another Obama Motors/China Motors product. The selling of America has
>> begun.
>> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this traitorous
>> first step.
>
> Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge that
> neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion by
> throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It
> seemed a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious
> that GM was going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do is
> waste money keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's dime,
> while enabling the bad behavior to continue. Would have been better to
> simply let GM go broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which would have
> kept the company operating but relieved it of unsustainable debts. Could
> have even been an opportunity to throw off the UAW, if anyone with guts
> was at the helm. But no, both Bush and Obama made a big show of "saving"
> the company, giving us first Government Motors and now (in part) China
> Motors.

Let's get one thing straight here ... Obama was fully aware of the state of
the Nation under GWB. He lip-flapped through the country for two years
crowing how his Hopey/Changey shit would fix it and create paradise. As
soon as he was elected into the office as the "Messiah", everything was
GWB's fault ...

If he had planned to blame GWB all along, then he lied to the people to get
elected.

If he wasn't aware of what was about to hit him, then he's just another dumb
Negroid, up to his ass in shit.



ChasNemo
2010-11-14 12:12:53 EST
On Nov 14, 11:14 am, "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote:
> "Larry Kroger" <lkroger9...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:zTGDo.16263$z41.16180@newsfe05.iad...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote in message
> >news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>
> >> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
> >> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
> >> UAW to gain majority.  Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling
> >> out to the Chinese.
>
> >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>
> >> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
> >> another Obama Motors/China Motors product.  The selling of America has
> >> begun.
> >> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this traitorous
> >> first step.
>
> > Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge that
> > neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion by
> > throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It
> > seemed a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious
> > that GM was going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do is
> > waste money keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's dime,
> > while enabling the bad behavior to continue. Would have been better to
> > simply let GM go broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which would have
> > kept the company operating but relieved it of unsustainable debts. Could
> > have even been an opportunity to throw off the UAW, if anyone with guts
> > was at the helm. But no, both Bush and Obama made a big show of "saving"
> > the company, giving us first Government Motors and now (in part) China
> > Motors.
>
> Let's get one thing straight here ... Obama was fully aware of the state of
> the Nation under GWB.  He lip-flapped through the country for two years
> crowing how his Hopey/Changey shit would fix it and create paradise.  As
> soon as he was elected into the office as the "Messiah",  everything was
> GWB's fault ...
>
> If he had planned to blame GWB all along, then he lied to the people to get
> elected.
>
> If he wasn't aware of what was about to hit him, then he's just another dumb
> Negroid, up to his ass in shit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Two years hasn't been enough to fix the many messes left by the Bu$h/
Cheney KKKrime Family, but President Obama has made a good start.
More will be done during his nexy 6+ years in office -- in spite of
greedy teabagger efforts to thwart such progress. Gospel.

Brad Guth
2010-11-14 12:21:09 EST
On Nov 14, 9:12 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 11:14 am, "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Larry Kroger" <lkroger9...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:zTGDo.16263$z41.16180@newsfe05.iad...
>
> > > "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote in message
> > >news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > >> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>
> > >> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
> > >> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
> > >> UAW to gain majority.  Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling
> > >> out to the Chinese.
>
> > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>
> > >> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
> > >> another Obama Motors/China Motors product.  The selling of America has
> > >> begun.
> > >> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this traitorous
> > >> first step.
>
> > > Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge that
> > > neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion by
> > > throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It
> > > seemed a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious
> > > that GM was going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do is
> > > waste money keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's dime,
> > > while enabling the bad behavior to continue. Would have been better to
> > > simply let GM go broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which would have
> > > kept the company operating but relieved it of unsustainable debts. Could
> > > have even been an opportunity to throw off the UAW, if anyone with guts
> > > was at the helm. But no, both Bush and Obama made a big show of "saving"
> > > the company, giving us first Government Motors and now (in part) China
> > > Motors.
>
> > Let's get one thing straight here ... Obama was fully aware of the state of
> > the Nation under GWB.  He lip-flapped through the country for two years
> > crowing how his Hopey/Changey shit would fix it and create paradise.  As
> > soon as he was elected into the office as the "Messiah",  everything was
> > GWB's fault ...
>
> > If he had planned to blame GWB all along, then he lied to the people to get
> > elected.
>
> > If he wasn't aware of what was about to hit him, then he's just another dumb
> > Negroid, up to his ass in shit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Two years hasn't been enough to fix the many messes left by the Bu$h/
> Cheney KKKrime Family, but President Obama has made a good start.
> More will be done during his nexy 6+ years in office -- in spite of
> greedy teabagger efforts to thwart such progress.  Gospel.

Since when does a certified redneck like our warm and fuzzy Hagar
really care about anything other than getting his fair share of that
cheese?

~ BG

Vtcapo
2010-11-14 12:42:24 EST
On Nov 14, 12:12 pm, ChasNemo <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 11:14 am, "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Larry Kroger" <lkroger9...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:zTGDo.16263$z41.16180@newsfe05.iad...
>
> > > "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote in message
> > >news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > >> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>
> > >> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
> > >> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
> > >> UAW to gain majority.  Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling
> > >> out to the Chinese.
>
> > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>
> > >> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
> > >> another Obama Motors/China Motors product.  The selling of America has
> > >> begun.
> > >> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this traitorous
> > >> first step.
>
> > > Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge that
> > > neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion by
> > > throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It
> > > seemed a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious
> > > that GM was going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do is
> > > waste money keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's dime,
> > > while enabling the bad behavior to continue. Would have been better to
> > > simply let GM go broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which would have
> > > kept the company operating but relieved it of unsustainable debts. Could
> > > have even been an opportunity to throw off the UAW, if anyone with guts
> > > was at the helm. But no, both Bush and Obama made a big show of "saving"
> > > the company, giving us first Government Motors and now (in part) China
> > > Motors.
>
> > Let's get one thing straight here ... Obama was fully aware of the state of
> > the Nation under GWB.  He lip-flapped through the country for two years
> > crowing how his Hopey/Changey shit would fix it and create paradise.  As
> > soon as he was elected into the office as the "Messiah",  everything was
> > GWB's fault ...
>
> > If he had planned to blame GWB all along, then he lied to the people to get
> > elected.
>
> > If he wasn't aware of what was about to hit him, then he's just another dumb
> > Negroid, up to his ass in shit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Two years hasn't been enough to fix the many messes left by the Bu$h/
> Cheney KKKrime Family, but President Obama has made a good start.
> More will be done during his nexy 6+ years in office -- in spite of
> greedy teabagger efforts to thwart such progress.  Gospel.

I couldn't have put it better...

RT

Hagar
2010-11-14 12:42:49 EST

"Brad Guth" <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:17fcba63-8277-410c-b86f-9dc82e2f4f1d@r4g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 14, 9:12 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 11:14 am, "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Larry Kroger" <lkroger9...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:zTGDo.16263$z41.16180@newsfe05.iad...
>
> > > "Hagar" <hms...@suregas.net> wrote in message
> > >news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > >> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>
> > >> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
> > >> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed
> > >> the
> > >> UAW to gain majority. Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling
> > >> out to the Chinese.
>
> > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>
> > >> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever
> > >> buy
> > >> another Obama Motors/China Motors product. The selling of America has
> > >> begun.
> > >> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this
> > >> traitorous
> > >> first step.
>
> > > Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge
> > > that
> > > neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion
> > > by
> > > throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It
> > > seemed a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious
> > > that GM was going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do
> > > is
> > > waste money keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's
> > > dime,
> > > while enabling the bad behavior to continue. Would have been better to
> > > simply let GM go broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which would
> > > have
> > > kept the company operating but relieved it of unsustainable debts.
> > > Could
> > > have even been an opportunity to throw off the UAW, if anyone with
> > > guts
> > > was at the helm. But no, both Bush and Obama made a big show of
> > > "saving"
> > > the company, giving us first Government Motors and now (in part) China
> > > Motors.
>
> > Let's get one thing straight here ... Obama was fully aware of the state
> > of
> > the Nation under GWB. He lip-flapped through the country for two years
> > crowing how his Hopey/Changey shit would fix it and create paradise. As
> > soon as he was elected into the office as the "Messiah", everything was
> > GWB's fault ...
>
> > If he had planned to blame GWB all along, then he lied to the people to
> > get
> > elected.
>
> > If he wasn't aware of what was about to hit him, then he's just another
> > dumb
> > Negroid, up to his ass in shit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Two years hasn't been enough to fix the many messes left by the Bu$h/
> Cheney KKKrime Family, but President Obama has made a good start.
> More will be done during his nexy 6+ years in office -- in spite of
> greedy teabagger efforts to thwart such progress. Gospel.


So, chasNematoad, you admit that he's a dumb schmuck ... thanks.
I never thought I'd find you on the side of the Tea Partiers and the
CraKKKers, as you so eloquently refer to us. Yes indeed, only a retard
would proclaim to the world (at the Brandenburg Gate, no less) how he was
the Savior and the Righter of all that's Wrongs with America, but then
immediately starts to bawl over the "mess" (created mostly by a Democrat
Congress) he encountered.
It's like a boxer, who was knocked out in the second round, complaining that
he wasn't inferior, but it's all the other guy's fault, because he was
faster and the smarter boxer ... but you Liberal brainwashed products of the
parasite generation think that's a good enough excuse to hide your total
ineptitude.



Larry Kroger
2010-11-14 18:46:16 EST
"Hagar" <hmsahm@suregas.net> wrote in message
news:UJudnT-uOeByl33RnZ2dnUVZ5hCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Larry Kroger" <lkroger9974@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:zTGDo.16263$z41.16180@newsfe05.iad...
>> "Hagar" <hmsahm@suregas.net> wrote in message
>> news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>>>
>>> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
>>> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
>>> UAW to gain majority. Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling
>>> out to the Chinese.
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>>>
>>> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
>>> another Obama Motors/China Motors product. The selling of America has
>>> begun.
>>> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this
>>> traitorous first step.
>>
>> Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge that
>> neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion by
>> throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It
>> seemed a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious
>> that GM was going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do is
>> waste money keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's dime,
>> while enabling the bad behavior to continue. Would have been better to
>> simply let GM go broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which would have
>> kept the company operating but relieved it of unsustainable debts. Could
>> have even been an opportunity to throw off the UAW, if anyone with guts
>> was at the helm. But no, both Bush and Obama made a big show of "saving"
>> the company, giving us first Government Motors and now (in part) China
>> Motors.
>
> Let's get one thing straight here ... Obama was fully aware of the state
> of the Nation under GWB. He lip-flapped through the country for two years
> crowing how his Hopey/Changey shit would fix it and create paradise. As
> soon as he was elected into the office as the "Messiah", everything was
> GWB's fault ...

I wasn't defending Obama. The problem, and this should be understood by both
liberals and conservatives, is that Obama and Bush have more similarities
than differences, in that both are fiscal disasters who expanded the
government and paid off special interests. Obama is not "change"; he's just
Bush on steroids. I watched with horror as Bush broke the bank, and now I'm
still watching with horror as Obama digs even deeper. Washington is insane.
You can't borrow your way out of debt or spend your way to prosperity.
Everyone knows Obama is dragging us down; they just don't know what to do,
because the dysfunction is systematic. Anyway, just because Obama is worse
than Bush doesn't mean Bush was good. I will say that at least Bush had the
decency to *sound* like a moron, whereas Obama, armed with his trusty
teleprompter, is sometimes capable of sounding like he knows what he's
doing. If there's anything worse than a moron, it's a stealth moron. At this
point, though, most of us know there's no point in listening to Obama, since
what he says has nothing to do with what he does.


Hagar
2010-11-14 19:21:13 EST

"Larry Kroger" <lkroger9974@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:hx_Do.27829$3f.92@newsfe12.iad...
> "Hagar" <hmsahm@suregas.net> wrote in message
> news:UJudnT-uOeByl33RnZ2dnUVZ5hCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Larry Kroger" <lkroger9974@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:zTGDo.16263$z41.16180@newsfe05.iad...
>>> "Hagar" <hmsahm@suregas.net> wrote in message
>>> news:AM2dnbPTzIXVekPRnZ2dnUVZ5oudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> China plays big role in GM's IPO (GM = Government Motors).
>>>>
>>>> In other words, O'Bummer used taxpayer's money to bail out GM, then
>>>> cheated the actual stockholders out of their fair share and allowed the
>>>> UAW to gain majority. Now, in his final act of betrayal, he's selling
>>>> out to the Chinese.
>>>>
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_ipo_china
>>>>
>>>> Having owned three Camaros, and two Chevy Vans, I will never, ever buy
>>>> another Obama Motors/China Motors product. The selling of America has
>>>> begun.
>>>> Just remember which political party was the instigator in this
>>>> traitorous first step.
>>>
>>> Obama's economic policies are toxic, sure. But we must acknowledge that
>>> neither does George Bush have clean hands. He started this intrusion by
>>> throwing billions of dollars into GM when things began to go sour. It
>>> seemed a wasteful thing to do at the time, since it was pretty obvious
>>> that GM was going to go under pretty soon in any case, and all we'd do
>>> is waste money keeping the party going a bit longer on the taxpayer's
>>> dime, while enabling the bad behavior to continue. Would have been
>>> better to simply let GM go broke and seek Chapter 11 protection, which
>>> would have kept the company operating but relieved it of unsustainable
>>> debts. Could have even been an opportunity to throw off the UAW, if
>>> anyone with guts was at the helm. But no, both Bush and Obama made a big
>>> show of "saving" the company, giving us first Government Motors and now
>>> (in part) China Motors.
>>
>> Let's get one thing straight here ... Obama was fully aware of the state
>> of the Nation under GWB. He lip-flapped through the country for two
>> years crowing how his Hopey/Changey shit would fix it and create
>> paradise. As soon as he was elected into the office as the "Messiah",
>> everything was GWB's fault ...
>
> I wasn't defending Obama. The problem, and this should be understood by
> both liberals and conservatives, is that Obama and Bush have more
> similarities than differences, in that both are fiscal disasters who
> expanded the government and paid off special interests. Obama is not
> "change"; he's just Bush on steroids. I watched with horror as Bush broke
> the bank, and now I'm still watching with horror as Obama digs even
> deeper. Washington is insane. You can't borrow your way out of debt or
> spend your way to prosperity. Everyone knows Obama is dragging us down;
> they just don't know what to do, because the dysfunction is systematic.
> Anyway, just because Obama is worse than Bush doesn't mean Bush was good.
> I will say that at least Bush had the decency to *sound* like a moron,
> whereas Obama, armed with his trusty teleprompter, is sometimes capable of
> sounding like he knows what he's doing. If there's anything worse than a
> moron, it's a stealth moron. At this point, though, most of us know
> there's no point in listening to Obama, since what he says has nothing to
> do with what he does.

Ok, Larry ... in GWB's defense, after 6 months or so in office he was
confronted with 9/11, which prompted the two wars (all sanctioned by the
Democrat majority Congress) coupled with their push to ruin the housing
market, under the guidance of that genius Barney Frank, who steered that
ship into a reef. If Congress had stayed out of the "Rules of Engagement"
game and were the Military allowed to do its job, unfettered by Liberal
lunatics, both wars would be over.

One thing I can say about Bush, he's a proud American ... if that still
counts for anything. The other one, I have serious doubts.


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