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Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
2010-08-09 14:56:10 EST
65 years since the bombing of Hiroshima

At 8:15 a.m. on August 6, 1945, the US Air Force exploded an atomic
bomb over the Japanese city of Hiroshima, instantly killing 80,000
civilians. Most of the city was leveled by the bomb’s shock wave or
incinerated in the subsequent firestorm. Three days later, before it
was understood what had happened in Hiroshima, the US exploded a
second atomic bomb above Nagasaki, immediately killing 40,000.
Within weeks the toll had likely climbed to 250,000 killed through
burns and radiation poisoning. Those who survived the blasts described
scenes of nearly unspeakable horror—civilians, mainly women and
children, burnt so badly there could be no treatment; “walking dead”
staggering through the streets in their last hours, their skin hanging
like rags from their bodies; atomic shadows seared into the pavement
where humans had stood. Tens of thousands more continued to die and
suffer in the years and decades after the attacks.
The US bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki stand among the most savage
acts of violence against a civilian population ever committed. Sixty-
five years later, they remain shrouded in lies and obfuscation
emanating from the modern-day defenders of American militarism.
Typical is a column written by journalist Warren Kozac, published
Friday in the Wall Street Jounal. Kozak recently wrote a biography
that attempts to rehabilitate the bloodthirsty Air Force general
Curtis LeMay, who, before the bombing of Hiroshima, organized the
firebombing of Tokyo, killing an estimated 87,000 people.

Kozak repeats the standard lies used to justify the atrocity,
including the claim that the decision to use the atomic bomb saved
lives. “It should be noted that when President Harry Truman was
considering whether to invade Japan instead of dropping the bombs, his
advisers estimated that an invasion would result in one million
American casualties and at least two million Japanese deaths,” writes.
“In the strange calculus of war, the bombs actually saved Japanese
lives.”
Truman’s decision had nothing to do with saving lives, Japanese or
American. At the time of the bombing, Japan was, in a military sense,
already defeated. Its navy, air force, and industrial capacity largely
destroyed, the Japanese had sought out conditions for peace in the
weeks before the attacks.
The use of the atom bomb was, above all else, a cold-blooded strategic
decision made with Washington’s eyes already transfixed on the postwar
order. At the Tehran Conference of 1943, the Soviet Union had agreed
to declare war on Japan within three months after the ending of
hostilities in Europe. After the defeat of Germany, the Soviet Red Army
—which had borne the brunt of Allied fighting in Europe—began to be
shifted across the Eurasian landmass in preparation for an invasion of
Manchuria on August 8, 1945—two days after Hiroshima, and the day
before Nagasaki.

Washington was aware that if the war were not concluded rapidly, the
Soviet Union would be in a position to assert itself in the resumed
Chinese civil war between the pro-US nationalist forces of Chiang Kai-
shek and the peasant armies of Mao Zedong, on the Korean peninsula,
and potentially in Japan itself, where a revolt of the country’s
working class and peasants against the empire—as had taken place in
Italy against Mussolini—was far more likely than the fight to the
death of the Emperor posited by Kozak and others.
But even more crucially, Truman and the US military were anxious to
use the atomic bomb, this new weapon of extraordinary destructive
power, as an object lesson to the Soviet Union and the entire world of
the lengths Washington would go to defend its interests.

Historian Thomas McCormick has eloquently summarized the decision: “In
two blinding glares—a horrible end to a war waged horribly by all
parties—the United States finally found the combination that would
unlock the door to American hegemony. A prearranged demonstration of
the atomic bomb on a noninhabited target, as some scientists had
recommended, would not do. That could demonstrate the power of the
bomb, but it could not demonstrate the American will to use the awful
power. One reason, therefore, for American unwillingness to pursue
Japanese peace feelers in mid-summer 1945 was that the United States
did not want the war to end before it had had a chance to use the
atomic bomb.” (America’s Half-Century, 44-45.)

This year we observe the anniversary of the slaughter in Hiroshima and
Nagasaki in a new period of war and militarist aggression. The Obama
administration has intensified its war in Afghanistan, loosening up
rules of engagement allowing the military to “take out” civilian
targets. In recent weeks, Washington has staged a series of
provocations designed to ramp up pressure on what it views to be its
main strategic rival, nuclear-armed China.

And now the US is shifting toward a war footing with Iran, claiming
that its nuclear program is designed to create nuclear weapons, the
same charge it falsely leveled against the Iraqi regime of Saddam
Hussein in 2003.

Washington’s hypocrisy is staggering. In cases where it views the
nation as an ally—Israel, India, and now Vietnam—it turns a blind eye
to nuclear weapons programs or supports uranium enrichment.
Moreover, the Hiroshima anniversary recalls that only the US has ever
used nuclear weapons in war. If American imperialism was willing to
unleash this destructive power to assert its hegemony at a time of its
peak economic strength, it will not shirk its use to defend this
hegemony under conditions of economic decline.

There have been repeated reports, beginning in 2006, that the US and
Israel are contemplating the use of so-called “tactical” nuclear
weapons in a preemptive strike against military targets in Iran. Late
in 2008, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates—then still in the employ of
the Bush administration—formally advocated the use of preemptive
nuclear strikes in a speech to the Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace (CEIP). (See “US defense secretary expands pre-
emptive war doctrine to include nuclear strikes”.)

Though the US has the largest nuclear stockpile and plays the most
destabilizing role in world affairs, the danger of nuclear war is not
limited to its designs. Russia, Britain, France, and China maintain
thousands of nuclear missiles. Israel has in the past obliquely
threatened to use nuclear weapons against its neighbors, while in any
new South Asian war, India and Pakistan—and possibly China—would be
tempted to use their nuclear missiles.

As in the lead-up to WWI and WWII, the world has become a tinderbox of
sharp tensions among the Great Powers. In the Middle East, the Horn of
Africa, Central Asia, the Balkans, Southeast Asia and the Pacific, any
number of scenarios could touch off a new global conflagration that
would repeat the horrors of the 20th century, including the use of
nuclear weapons, but on a far more deadly scale.
The descent into depression and militarism, so reminiscent of the
1930s, can only be stopped by the international working class fighting
for a socialist program. The capitalists’ genocidal “war of each
against all,” as Lenin put it, must be replaced by a planned,
socialist economy, organized to meet social needs rather than the
profit drives of the rival cliques of billionaires.
http://wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/hiro-a07.shtml

H.
2010-08-09 15:18:17 EST

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<*i@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:26c915c0-c12b-4185-aae2-6ec14ae5ef6c@u31g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
65 years since the bombing of Hiroshima

At 8:15 a.m. on August 6, 1945, the US Air Force
exploded an atomic
bomb over the Japanese city of Hiroshima, instantly
killing 80,000
civilians.
.
>>>>> Liberal Bull Shit Deleted <<<<<
.
If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks like
The U.S. will again be the only country to use nukes in
war. If there is a need for further bombs we might ask
you Liberal, bleeding heart, slant eyed,
sons-of-bitches to post your addresses so we can
consider other ground zero points.
H.



HVAC
2010-08-09 17:37:44 EST

"H." <hbosch@charter.net> wrote in message
news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
> .
> If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks like The U.S. will
> again be the only country to use nukes in war.

If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
weapons that make nukes superfluous.

A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as effective
as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor that
a nuke does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea has
massed artillery along the border which is only about
30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean chinamen
under the boot of N. Korean artillery.

And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to Seoul.



Brad Guth
2010-08-09 18:42:27 EST
On Aug 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
>
> news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
>
> > .
> > If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks like The U.S. will
> > again be the only country to use nukes in war.
>
> If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
> weapons that make nukes superfluous.
>
> A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as effective
> as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor that
> a nuke does.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
>
> The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
> proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea has
> massed artillery along the border which is only about
> 30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean chinamen
> under the boot of N. Korean artillery.
>
> And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to Seoul.

Then we'd better start being a whole lot nicer to NK.

~ BG

H.
2010-08-10 16:08:53 EST

"HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:i3pseu$f6b$1@hvac.motzarella.org...
>
> "H." <hbosch@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
>> .
>> If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks
>> like The U.S. will again be the only country to use
>> nukes in war.
>
> If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
> weapons that make nukes superfluous.
>
> A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as
> effective
> as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor
> that
> a nuke does.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
>
> The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
> proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea
> has
> massed artillery along the border which is only about
> 30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean
> chinamen
> under the boot of N. Korean artillery.
>
> And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to
> Seoul.
>
About a half dozen Puff The Magic Dragons (or whatever
they are called today) and a few of those deep bunker
buster bombs might just put an end to massed artillery.
Our military is smart enough to take that shit out
without destroying Seoul. After all of Sodom Insane's
tanks were taken out with only one loss to us.
H



H.
2010-08-10 16:11:20 EST

"Brad Guth" <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:60759c4f-580a-41b5-b995-7975e3dc250e@v6g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
>
> news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
>
> > .
> > If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks
> > like The U.S. will
> > again be the only country to use nukes in war.
>
> If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
> weapons that make nukes superfluous.
>
> A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as
> effective
> as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor
> that
> a nuke does.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
>
> The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
> proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea
> has
> massed artillery along the border which is only about
> 30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean
> chinamen
> under the boot of N. Korean artillery.
>
> And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to
> Seoul.

Then we'd better start being a whole lot nicer to NK.

~ BG
.
===================================
.
We sure should. Send in the B1's and B2's and oh yes
don't forget the Cruise Missiles.
H.



Sir Gilligan Horry
2010-08-10 16:13:34 EST
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
<*h@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
>>
>> > .
>> > If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks like The U.S. will
>> > again be the only country to use nukes in war.
>>
>> If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
>> weapons that make nukes superfluous.
>>
>> A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as effective
>> as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor that
>> a nuke does.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
>>
>> The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
>> proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea has
>> massed artillery along the border which is only about
>> 30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean chinamen
>> under the boot of N. Korean artillery.
>>
>> And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to Seoul.
>
>Then we'd better start being a whole lot nicer to NK.
>
> ~ BG

Brad, I have free tickets for you to live permanently in ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/asia_pac_unseen_north_korea/img/3.jpg

See if you could help our intelligence agency,
and please start a nice community care center there.

We have faith in you Brad !!!



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Brad Guth
2010-08-10 18:05:21 EST
On Aug 10, 1:13 pm, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
>
>
>
> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
>
> >>news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
>
> >> > .
> >> > If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks like The U.S. will
> >> > again be the only country to use nukes in war.
>
> >> If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
> >> weapons that make nukes superfluous.
>
> >> A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as effective
> >> as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor that
> >> a nuke does.
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
>
> >> The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
> >> proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea has
> >> massed artillery along the border which is only about
> >> 30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean chinamen
> >> under the boot of N. Korean artillery.
>
> >> And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to Seoul.
>
> >Then we'd better start being a whole lot nicer to NK.
>
> > ~ BG
>
> Brad, I have free tickets for you to live permanently in ...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/asia_pac_u...
>
> See if you could help our intelligence agency,
> and please start a nice community care center there.
>
> We have faith in you Brad !!!
>
> ___
You can actually find a whole lost worse places right here in America,
including those in Washington DC. With the right lens and timing,
almost any nation on Earth can look as bad or worse than your NK
selection that’s taken entirely our of context.

How about sharing some poverty, drought, red dust or even flood
stricken areas of Australia?

Obviously there’s a lot of national PR damage control in Australia, so
that means either everything is under control or so bad that it’s
utterly hopeless.

~ BG


Sir Gilligan Horry
2010-08-10 18:20:06 EST
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
<*h@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 10, 1:13 pm, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
>>
>>
>>
>> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
>>
>> >> > .
>> >> > If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks like The U.S. will
>> >> > again be the only country to use nukes in war.
>>
>> >> If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
>> >> weapons that make nukes superfluous.
>>
>> >> A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as effective
>> >> as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor that
>> >> a nuke does.
>>
>> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
>>
>> >> The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
>> >> proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea has
>> >> massed artillery along the border which is only about
>> >> 30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean chinamen
>> >> under the boot of N. Korean artillery.
>>
>> >> And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to Seoul.
>>
>> >Then we'd better start being a whole lot nicer to NK.
>>
>> > ~ BG
>>
>> Brad, I have free tickets for you to live permanently in ...
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/asia_pac_u...
>>
>> See if you could help our intelligence agency,
>> and please start a nice community care center there.
>>
>> We have faith in you Brad !!!
>>
>> ___
>You can actually find a whole lost worse places right here in America,
>including those in Washington DC. With the right lens and timing,
>almost any nation on Earth can look as bad or worse than your NK
>selection that’s taken entirely our of context.
>
>How about sharing some poverty, drought, red dust or even flood
>stricken areas of Australia?
>
>Obviously there’s a lot of national PR damage control in Australia, so
>that means either everything is under control or so bad that it’s
>utterly hopeless.
>
> ~ BG

Brad, I have free tickets for you to fix the "PR damage" in ...

http://images.watoday.com.au/2009/05/27/543309/kim-jong-420x0.jpg

See if you could help our intelligence agency,
and please start a nice community care center there to fix the "PR
damage".

We have faith in you Brad !!!



P.S.
My Country "Australia" is just fine ...

http://ferdyonfilms.com/12%205.jpg


My planet Earth needs help,
but I will do all that work myself !!!







___



.
.
.
.
.

___

I am Video Blogging now, becoming a World Famous YouTube Video Personality!!!

" Jim's Space Agency "

http://www.YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency

I will create and upload about 500 videos before Christmas.
Video Topics: Latest Truth News, Astronomy, UFOs, Aliens, Earth Ecology, Paranormal, Art, Fashion, Health, Technology, Funny Videos, Serious Debate, Technology, World Events, Love and Care, and Great Friends.

___

Brad Guth
2010-08-10 18:55:38 EST
On Aug 10, 3:20 pm, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
>
>
>
> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 10, 1:13 pm, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:42:27 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
>
> >> <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Aug 9, 2:37 pm, "HVAC" <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:awY7o.51652$f_3.25972@newsfe17.iad...
>
> >> >> > .
> >> >> > If Iran and N. Korea continue to screw up it looks like The U.S. will
> >> >> > again be the only country to use nukes in war.
>
> >> >> If we don't have them now, we soon WILL have
> >> >> weapons that make nukes superfluous.
>
> >> >> A so-called 'rod from god' will be easily as effective
> >> >> as a nuke even though it won't have the fear factor that
> >> >> a nuke does.
>
> >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
>
> >> >> The problem with waging war against N. Korea is the
> >> >> proximity of Seoul S. Korea to the border. N. Korea has
> >> >> massed artillery along the border which is only about
> >> >> 30 miles from Seoul. That puts 12 million Korean chinamen
> >> >> under the boot of N. Korean artillery.
>
> >> >> And you can bet most of that artillery is targeted to Seoul.
>
> >> >Then we'd better start being a whole lot nicer to NK.
>
> >> > ~ BG
>
> >> Brad, I have free tickets for you to live permanently in ...
>
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/asia_pac_u...
>
> >> See if you could help our intelligence agency,
> >> and please start a nice community care center there.
>
> >> We have faith in you Brad !!!
>
> >> ___
> >You can actually find a whole lost worse places right here in America,
> >including those in Washington DC.  With the right lens and timing,
> >almost any nation on Earth can look as bad or worse than your NK
> >selection that’s taken entirely our of context.
>
> >How about sharing some poverty, drought, red dust or even flood
> >stricken areas of Australia?
>
> >Obviously there’s a lot of national PR damage control in Australia, so
> >that means either everything is under control or so bad that it’s
> >utterly hopeless.
>
> > ~ BG
>
> Brad, I have free tickets for you to fix the "PR damage" in ...
>
> http://images.watoday.com.au/2009/05/27/543309/kim-jong-420x0.jpg
>
> See if you could help our intelligence agency,
> and please start a nice community care center there to fix the "PR
> damage".
>
> We have faith in you Brad !!!
>
> P.S.
> My Country "Australia" is just fine ...
>
> http://ferdyonfilms.com/12%205.jpg
>
> My planet Earth needs help,
> but I will do all that work myself !!!
>
> ___

You got more spunk than most of us. Too bad that old farts like
yourself are about to go off and die on us, so you better hurry up.

~ BG
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