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HVAC
2009-11-24 15:36:13 EST
Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in
Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four
Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the
SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told
FoxNews.com.

The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused
non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have
requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber,"
told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the
bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value
target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault
charges and have retained lawyers.

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class
(SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty
for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official
statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction
of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an
additional charge of impediment of an investigation.

The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three
SEALs — two officers and an enlisted sailor — have been identified by
investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.

FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of
the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured
and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later
taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.

The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to
the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.

"I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," the SEAL wrote. "I
did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in
good health."

Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokeswoman for the special operations
component of U.S. Central Command, confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com
that three SEALs have been charged in connection with the capture of a
detainee. She said their court martial is scheduled for January.

United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a
legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to
Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then
returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up
the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.

The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated
that "Objective Amber" planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and "they had
been tracking this guy for some time."

The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in
Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its
grip over Iraq.

The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering
company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades.
Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They
hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the
world press to photograph.

Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had
evaded capture until September.

The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in
the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse
in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.

Nightcrawler
2009-11-24 16:18:09 EST
Should of killed the fuck, on the spot.

"HVAC" <mr.hvac@gmail.com> wrote in message news:fa742303-aeb3-4229-bb1d-952b4bf7e291@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in
Iraq \ufffd the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four
Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the
SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told
FoxNews.com.

The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused
non-judicial punishment \ufffd called an admiral's mast \ufffd and have
requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber,"
told investigators he was punched by his captors \ufffd and he had the
bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value
target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault
charges and have retained lawyers.

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class
(SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty
for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official
statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction
of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an
additional charge of impediment of an investigation.

The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three
SEALs \ufffd two officers and an enlisted sailor \ufffd have been identified by
investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.

FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of
the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured
and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later
taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.

The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to
the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.

"I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," the SEAL wrote. "I
did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in
good health."

Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokeswoman for the special operations
component of U.S. Central Command, confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com
that three SEALs have been charged in connection with the capture of a
detainee. She said their court martial is scheduled for January.

United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a
legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to
Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then
returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up
the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.

The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated
that "Objective Amber" planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and "they had
been tracking this guy for some time."

The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in
Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its
grip over Iraq.

The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering
company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades.
Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They
hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the
world press to photograph.

Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had
evaded capture until September.

The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in
the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse
in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.



Martin
2009-11-24 19:11:41 EST
HVAC wrote:
> Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in
> Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four
> Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004.

You mean freedom fighter. He should lauded a hero for attacking the
thugs overrunning his country.

Adam Brown
2009-11-24 23:05:37 EST
On Nov 24, 7:11 pm, martin <use...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
> HVAC wrote:
> > Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in
> > Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four
> > Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004.
>
> You mean freedom fighter. He should lauded a hero for attacking the
> thugs overrunning his country.

your a pussy!

The Gospel Truth
2009-11-25 05:09:23 EST
On Nov 24, 3:36 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in
> Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four
> Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the
> SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told
> FoxNews.com.
>
> The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused
> non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have
> requested a trial by court-martial.
>
> Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber,"
> told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the
> bloody lip to prove it.
>
> Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value
> target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault
> charges and have retained lawyers.
>
> Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class
> (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty
> for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official
> statement, and assault.
>
> Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction
> of performance of duty and making a false official statement.
>
> Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an
> additional charge of impediment of an investigation.
>
> The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three
> SEALs — two officers and an enlisted sailor — have been identified by
> investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.
>
> FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of
> the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured
> and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later
> taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.
>
> The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to
> the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.
>
> "I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," the SEAL wrote. "I
> did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in
> good health."
>
> Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokeswoman for the special operations
> component of U.S. Central Command, confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com
> that three SEALs have been charged in connection with the capture of a
> detainee. She said their court martial is scheduled for January.
>
> United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a
> legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to
> Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then
> returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up
> the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.
>
> The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated
> that "Objective Amber" planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and "they had
> been tracking this guy for some time."
>
> The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in
> Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its
> grip over Iraq.
>
> The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering
> company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades.
> Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They
> hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the
> world press to photograph.
>
> Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had
> evaded capture until September.
>
> The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in
> the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse
> in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.

We are becoming "sissified". Pretty soon the Armed Forces
will go pink.....!

Political correctness is destroying our way of life and will
put us into third world status. Obama is an ass kissing FOOL
with foreign leaders. Can't wait to make us equal....!

The wanna be a Nigger, President, who is a Mulatto Socialist
instead. Gets away with calling himself a Black African....!

He's a Mulatto Muslim, hating the American way.

Pick one...

A Military coup....
Impeachment....
AssASSination....

Want some money? Dream up cause. "The Helping Minnows Society"
CC:obama@whitehouse.com <a shot in he dark....

ObamaSucks.org <another shot in the dark. On Target...
There's ObamaSucks.net's/.com's....lots.....

Hey Obama. Keep yo wannabe Nigger hands, off of the internet....

I like to stick your arrogance up your Muslim Socialist ass.....
Stop talking down to us you fucking clown President! The Senate,
House, and Congress. Placing themselves above US. We voted for
you cock suckers....!

I wish the wild ass 'suichomicidal' Muslims would blow you up!
Hopefully when you're all in session....!

Obama. Do you secretly worship Allah Kaka five times a day....?
Do you own a 'prayer blanket'?,,,,,

Your Mighty God is the rogue Archangel, of HaShem, Lucifer. Did
you know that?

I can prove it, and have....

Genesis 14.12-15 Lucifer morphing into yo Mighty God...Allah.....

Genesis 16....Ishmael....borne by the rogue Archangel of HaShem.
Lucifer. Having His own made and chosen race....you and yours...

Genesis 17....Isaac....borne by the Almighty God HaShem....His
own made and chosen race...getting their asses kicked...by you
and yours...

HaShem. Please. Help them. Send them the Christ. And his legion
of angels.....

cathfuit
ingra
Remove CC:
tudeniz

HVAC
2009-11-25 06:25:18 EST

"The Gospel Truth" <01910infinity@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:598e859d-be53-450e-a925-068333b83296@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

>We are becoming "sissified".

"We" ? No. You? Yes.

As a man that dresses up as a woman, YOU
would know everything about being a sissy.


>Pretty soon the Armed Forces will go pink.....!


That's your favorite color?



>I like to stick your arrogance up your Muslim Socialist ass.....


Well, you've had the practice.





~
"I don't have mental health issues." -Twonky







Hoser1605
2009-11-25 08:38:43 EST
On Nov 25, 5:09 am, The Gospel Truth <01910infin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 3:36 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in
> > Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four
> > Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the
> > SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told
> > FoxNews.com.
>
> > The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused
> > non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have
> > requested a trial by court-martial.
>
> > Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber,"
> > told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the
> > bloody lip to prove it.
>
> > Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value
> > target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault
> > charges and have retained lawyers.
>
> > Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class
> > (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty
> > for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official
> > statement, and assault.
>
> > Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction
> > of performance of duty and making a false official statement.
>
> > Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an
> > additional charge of impediment of an investigation.
>
> > The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three
> > SEALs — two officers and an enlisted sailor — have been identified by
> > investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.
>
> > FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of
> > the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured
> > and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later
> > taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.
>
> > The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to
> > the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.
>
> > "I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," the SEAL wrote. "I
> > did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in
> > good health."
>
> > Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokeswoman for the special operations
> > component of U.S. Central Command, confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com
> > that three SEALs have been charged in connection with the capture of a
> > detainee. She said their court martial is scheduled for January.
>
> > United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a
> > legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to
> > Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then
> > returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up
> > the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.
>
> > The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated
> > that "Objective Amber" planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and "they had
> > been tracking this guy for some time."
>
> > The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in
> > Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its
> > grip over Iraq.
>
> > The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering
> > company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades.
> > Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They
> > hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the
> > world press to photograph.
>
> > Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had
> > evaded capture until September.
>
> > The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in
> > the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse
> > in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.
>
> We are becoming "sissified". Pretty soon the Armed Forces
> will go pink.....!
>
> Political correctness is destroying our way of life and will
> put us into third world status. Obama is an ass kissing FOOL
> with foreign leaders. Can't wait to make us equal....!
>
> The wanna be a Nigger, President, who is a Mulatto Socialist
> instead. Gets away with calling himself a Black African....!
>
> He's a Mulatto Muslim, hating the American way.
>
> Pick one...
>
> A Military coup....
> Impeachment....
> AssASSination....
>
> Want some money? Dream up cause. "The Helping Minnows Society"
> CC:ob...@whitehouse.com <a shot in he dark....
>
> ObamaSucks.org <another shot in the dark. On Target...
> There's ObamaSucks.net's/.com's....lots.....
>
> Hey Obama. Keep yo wannabe Nigger hands, off of the internet....
>
> I like to stick your arrogance up your Muslim Socialist ass.....
> Stop talking down to us you fucking clown President! The Senate,
> House, and Congress. Placing themselves above US. We voted for
> you cock suckers....!
>
> I wish the wild ass 'suichomicidal' Muslims would blow you up!
> Hopefully when you're all in session....!
>
> Obama. Do you secretly worship Allah Kaka five times a day....?
> Do you own a 'prayer blanket'?,,,,,
>
> Your Mighty God is the rogue Archangel, of HaShem, Lucifer. Did
> you know that?
>
> I can prove it, and have....
>
> Genesis 14.12-15 Lucifer morphing into yo Mighty God...Allah.....
>
> Genesis 16....Ishmael....borne by the rogue Archangel of HaShem.
> Lucifer. Having His own made and chosen race....you and yours...
>
> Genesis 17....Isaac....borne by the Almighty God HaShem....His
> own made and chosen race...getting their asses kicked...by you
> and yours...
>
> HaShem. Please. Help them. Send them the Christ. And his legion
> of angels.....
>
> cathfuit
> ingra
> Remove CC:
> tudeniz

Ugly punk

Hagar
2009-11-25 09:40:48 EST
WOW ... Twinkie just blew a gasket ...


"The Gospel Truth" <01910infinity@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:598e859d-be53-450e-a925-068333b83296@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 24, 3:36 pm, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in
> Iraq \ufffd the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four
> Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the
> SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told
> FoxNews.com.
>
> The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused
> non-judicial punishment \ufffd called an admiral's mast \ufffd and have
> requested a trial by court-martial.
>
> Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber,"
> told investigators he was punched by his captors \ufffd and he had the
> bloody lip to prove it.
>
> Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value
> target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault
> charges and have retained lawyers.
>
> Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class
> (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty
> for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official
> statement, and assault.
>
> Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction
> of performance of duty and making a false official statement.
>
> Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an
> additional charge of impediment of an investigation.
>
> The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three
> SEALs \ufffd two officers and an enlisted sailor \ufffd have been identified by
> investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.
>
> FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of
> the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured
> and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later
> taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.
>
> The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to
> the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.
>
> "I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," the SEAL wrote. "I
> did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in
> good health."
>
> Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokeswoman for the special operations
> component of U.S. Central Command, confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com
> that three SEALs have been charged in connection with the capture of a
> detainee. She said their court martial is scheduled for January.
>
> United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a
> legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to
> Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then
> returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up
> the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.
>
> The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated
> that "Objective Amber" planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and "they had
> been tracking this guy for some time."
>
> The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in
> Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its
> grip over Iraq.
>
> The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering
> company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades.
> Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They
> hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the
> world press to photograph.
>
> Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had
> evaded capture until September.
>
> The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in
> the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse
> in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.

We are becoming "sissified". Pretty soon the Armed Forces
will go pink.....!

Political correctness is destroying our way of life and will
put us into third world status. Obama is an ass kissing FOOL
with foreign leaders. Can't wait to make us equal....!

The wanna be a Nigger, President, who is a Mulatto Socialist
instead. Gets away with calling himself a Black African....!

He's a Mulatto Muslim, hating the American way.

Pick one...

A Military coup....
Impeachment....
AssASSination....

Want some money? Dream up cause. "The Helping Minnows Society"
CC:obama@whitehouse.com <a shot in he dark....

ObamaSucks.org <another shot in the dark. On Target...
There's ObamaSucks.net's/.com's....lots.....

Hey Obama. Keep yo wannabe Nigger hands, off of the internet....

I like to stick your arrogance up your Muslim Socialist ass.....
Stop talking down to us you fucking clown President! The Senate,
House, and Congress. Placing themselves above US. We voted for
you cock suckers....!

I wish the wild ass 'suichomicidal' Muslims would blow you up!
Hopefully when you're all in session....!

Obama. Do you secretly worship Allah Kaka five times a day....?
Do you own a 'prayer blanket'?,,,,,

Your Mighty God is the rogue Archangel, of HaShem, Lucifer. Did
you know that?

I can prove it, and have....

Genesis 14.12-15 Lucifer morphing into yo Mighty God...Allah.....

Genesis 16....Ishmael....borne by the rogue Archangel of HaShem.
Lucifer. Having His own made and chosen race....you and yours...

Genesis 17....Isaac....borne by the Almighty God HaShem....His
own made and chosen race...getting their asses kicked...by you
and yours...

HaShem. Please. Help them. Send them the Christ. And his legion
of angels.....

cathfuit
ingra
Remove CC:
tudeniz



HVAC
2009-11-25 10:28:44 EST

"Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote in message
news:if2dnX0idslu3JDWnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> WOW ... Twinkie just blew a gasket ...

Is Gasket the name of his boyfriend?



*_//!!_//!!*
2009-11-30 17:53:04 EST
On 24 Nov, 21:18, "Nightcrawler" <Dirtyde...@dirtcheap.net> wrote:
> Should of killed the fuck, on the spot.

That's too Quick, too Easy!

Keep your Noses Clean '&'

Allow...

*Justice* to Persue, Name,
Shame '&' Deter their Kind,
bringing them to NOTHING.

As they have done with the
Nazis...

A Soldier's Duty *IS* about:

*Deterance '&' Defence* but

'Never' @ Summary Justice.

*Hallelujah*

*Amen*



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